ole ole
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That's what you hope but we Habs know better. We all but 1 will easily keep the pick.
Proposal: Lafreniere for 1st pick Habs 2022
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Perhaps it should be more of a Lafreniere for Caufield + type of trade if there's mutual desire. An unblemished first overall usually wouldnt' get moved for an underperforming recent first overall.
Let's say it's Laf vs Pick 2-4.
I doubt Kravstov is worth Chiarot (late 1st) + Harris
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I doubt the Habs do this, our system desperately lacks another legit top 6 say 60+ point centre and a top pairing right handed Dman. Any of the top 5 should be able to provide that with Wright, Savoie, Jiricek, and Nemec all being available and Someone will take Slafkovsky in the top 5 as well so odds are we get one of our two biggest needs and are going BPA anyways.
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Habs don’t trade their pick for Laf if they choose top 3.
i think Wright, Kemell and Cooley are better and maybe Savoie too.
that being said I would love Laf and think something around him and Caufield would make sense. Habs would have to add though.
i think Wright, Kemell and Cooley are better and maybe Savoie too.
that being said I would love Laf and think something around him and Caufield would make sense. Habs would have to add though.
Say they get Wright 1OA....
what’s the point??? I’d wager both LaF and Wright will be very good players and solid point producers.
But why deal him for LaF??? Just because he’s a French Canadian.
Over the next 2-3 seasons, it’s still up in the air who the better player could be...
if your MtL, you take Wright. That’s all.
He’s a center opposed to a wing
He will have more years of cost control, and a full 3 years of ELC, whereas LaF needs a new deal next year.
I could see if maybe you thought LaF would be superior talent wise by a fair margin when all is said and done, that’s why you’d make the trade. But I don’t see a huge talent gap between the 2. And if there is, it way to early to possibly know how big it will be.
From NYR perspective, your not trading your unanimous first 1OA pick in the last 90 plus years, even if your a little bummed 2 short covid years and playing behind kreider and panarin have delayed his development a little.
There’s too many good things he does, and talents he has, as opposed to bad or things he needs to work on and fix. The important things, the stuff that’s either very hard or impossible to teach, he already possesses most of them. I’d wager you see a more motivated better skating LaF by the start of next year......
As a ranger fan, I’d love to add Wright.
He’s going to be a solid damn good center. The icing on the cake is he seems to be really good Friends and have real good chemistry with Othmann. Othmann is have an outstanding D+1 for us so far.
It would be a lot of fun to have both of those guys in the same system. But it’s never going to happen. It’s more likely they’d only wind up together if the team that drafts Wright makes a trade or overpays NYR for Othmann.
In conclusion, if MTL gets the 1 pick ( Wright), neither team does this trade and sticks with their guy. For better or worse... this is a trade I can honestly say will never happen with 100% confidence.
what’s the point??? I’d wager both LaF and Wright will be very good players and solid point producers.
But why deal him for LaF??? Just because he’s a French Canadian.
Over the next 2-3 seasons, it’s still up in the air who the better player could be...
if your MtL, you take Wright. That’s all.
He’s a center opposed to a wing
He will have more years of cost control, and a full 3 years of ELC, whereas LaF needs a new deal next year.
I could see if maybe you thought LaF would be superior talent wise by a fair margin when all is said and done, that’s why you’d make the trade. But I don’t see a huge talent gap between the 2. And if there is, it way to early to possibly know how big it will be.
From NYR perspective, your not trading your unanimous first 1OA pick in the last 90 plus years, even if your a little bummed 2 short covid years and playing behind kreider and panarin have delayed his development a little.
There’s too many good things he does, and talents he has, as opposed to bad or things he needs to work on and fix. The important things, the stuff that’s either very hard or impossible to teach, he already possesses most of them. I’d wager you see a more motivated better skating LaF by the start of next year......
As a ranger fan, I’d love to add Wright.
He’s going to be a solid damn good center. The icing on the cake is he seems to be really good Friends and have real good chemistry with Othmann. Othmann is have an outstanding D+1 for us so far.
It would be a lot of fun to have both of those guys in the same system. But it’s never going to happen. It’s more likely they’d only wind up together if the team that drafts Wright makes a trade or overpays NYR for Othmann.
In conclusion, if MTL gets the 1 pick ( Wright), neither team does this trade and sticks with their guy. For better or worse... this is a trade I can honestly say will never happen with 100% confidence.
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this reads more like some Habs fan just wanting to shit on Laffy
go figure
go figure
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ole ole
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No that's just your insecurities. We Hab fans would rather keep the pick. We Hab fan wouldn't mind dealing for Laf at the right price. One of the top 3 picks are not the right price.
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Isn't Montreal hosting?
If they don't hev to surrender the pick to AZ why would they trade it off?
If it's that important to try and peel Laf away from NY then Suzuki ought to be in play. Can't see NY trading him off for another winger
If they don't hev to surrender the pick to AZ why would they trade it off?
If it's that important to try and peel Laf away from NY then Suzuki ought to be in play. Can't see NY trading him off for another winger
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interesting add from the Arizona deal
Arizona Coyotes Acquire:
2022 1st round pick (MTL) [Conditional]*
2024 2nd round pick (MTL)
*Conditions: The better of Montreal/Carolina's 2022 1st round pick BUT if either or both are top 10 picks then Montreal will instead transfer to Arizona the worse of Montreal/Carolina's 2022 1st round pick.
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Habs Halifax
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I'd trade any other pick for Lafreniere other than 1st OA (Wright). If the Rangers are open to that, I'd talk more
Habs Halifax
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We go through this every year.... Prospects not drafted yet or not turned pro yet are worth more cause of the emotional attachment of who they can be if they reach their maximum potential. For some reason, because Lafreneire did not come in right away and dominate, he is a borderline bust or disappointment or not even worth a top 10 pick anymore.
Personally, I would not trade Wright for Lafreniere straight up but I would trade any pick we get from 2-10 for him though. The pains in development would probably be similar. Very few guys are coming in and dominating early these days
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I would not trade Wright for Lafreniere straight up and I agree there but is he a franchise center? Personally, I see Wright having the same difficulty to mature on the job in the NHL as Lafreniere. Sabres and Power made the right move. Seems like we are in a new era where top 10 picks are not able to provide impact at age 18 anymore. Last one to come in and dominate was Matthews.
every situation different, but this ^ is reasonable.
LaF projected as best 1OA other than generational level to emerge since MacKinnon.
That was a substantial consensus. Not many other for 1OA that yr.
@jay from jersey had a post where he gave great breakdown. Last thing kid has to have catch up to NHL level is his legs/skating, which continues to slowly emerge. Slow but looking sure and steady at this pt.
Other factor is line.
I called LaF-Chytil-Gauthier a yr ago.
was right.
While scoring could be more, they outplay op almost every shift.
Deal Strome who we can't afford next season for high picks
give mo mins to Chytil + his line incl LaF
bottom 6 mins to Barron
Habs Halifax
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Imagine saying on HF boards that Lafreniere would struggle at age 18 in the NHL? You would get jumped
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Wright also had a better PPG than McDavid did in his rookie/15 year old season. Not saying hes going to be better but the hype was there for a reason. Just sucks for the kid he missed an entire year of junior hockey for things out of his control.
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It's not a horrible offer. Broken down it's like this (see below). I think that needs to be discussed further and a lot comes down to what other offers we are getting for Chiarot. Many Habs fans are not giving much value to Kravstov at this stage and would rather picks if we trade Chiarot. I think it slightly favors the Rangers cause our pick could end up being the best of the bunch (maybe). If you don't want to go deeper, Habs likely decline but with respect to your attempt
Chiarot for Kravstov
Lafreniere
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Habs top 10 pick (whatever it is) and rights to Harris
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