Kyle Dubas will not be back as GM

[Macman]

Important to note that it's not a firing, and it's widely accepted that there was large offers on the table to return and Dubas choose not to go back.

The Leafs statement says “the club has decided to part ways” with Dubas. Sounds like a firing to me.

 

[AllDay28]

Lou?

Yeah. All Kyle had to do is keep Andersen.

Lou might be dead before that horrendous contract he gave Horvat ends. let that sink in.

 

[BHD]

Well, def took its toll. You know you’re losing it when you’re getting into it with bottles and random fans.

Very tongue-in-cheek. Between those instances AND the conference, you could tell he was done. I expect him to take the year off.

 

[Lateralous]

Tavares was good for toronto until only recently, people seem to forget that

He was and Matthews, Marner and Nylander all developed about as good as could have possibly been expected too and yet they only managed to ever win a single round in the playoffs. That screams that the GMs plan was never good enough IMO.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

Can you explain what the "be the smartest person in the room" approach entailed?

Taking an approach that no one else sees coming.

Now, that's definitely not a bad take, especially in the NHL where they like to recycle failures, but the guy they chose was too obvious in his approach and didn't seem to willing to deviate from his plan despite obvious flaws.

 

[sr edler]

Sammy McKee hire incoming?

 

[1specter]

Future Sens GM.

 

[DuklaNation]

Praise the Lord!

 

[Skullz]

As a Leafs fan this is awful.

He made his mistakes, but overall he did a fantastic job, and learned on the job. I have a feeling whoever gets him for his second run will be extremely lucky.

Great person, great GM. Ultimately perhaps too loyal to his core 4, but I will miss him.

Eric Tulsky, come on down!

 

[Ninjadude]

I hear Jim Benning is available!

 

[The Mighty Duck Man]

All in all I think Dubas did a really good job of trying to build a solid team in spite of his past mistakes but they were probably just too great to overcome. Wouldn’t doubt if he kills it on his next team, but there’s also definitely the chance he didn’t really learn from this either.

 

[GrizzGreen]

Damn. He wasn't terrible by any means, but he couldn't get the job done, either. They gave him years to build a contender, and they never made it past the second round.

The grass isn't always greener on the other side, but it makes sense. Keefe needs to be fired, too. He seemed to have no clue what to do with all the new toys Dubas acquired at the deadline. Strange times ahead for Leafs fans.

This is my take as well. I think the deadline acquisitions this year were great but he should have had more deals like that earlier in his tenure.

If you're not winning, sometimes you just need a shakeup. Offseason should be interesting.

 

[Advanced stats]

The Leafs statement says “the club has decided to part ways” with Dubas. Sounds like a firing to me.

He literally didn't have a contract. Either way we'll know after the press conference

 

[Artemi Panarin]

 

[DopeyFish]

Mitch Marner is gonna use that joke of a Selke nomination to try to extort an even larger contract from the next Leafs GM. Fortunately for Toronto, Kyle Dubas is no longer going to be there to bend over and give it to him.

it's called being a good player

good players get good contracts.

Perhaps in two. Quinn's Leafs and Fletcher's Leafs would have sent the Panthers to their safe space toute suite after Florida's first act of impunity.

(And full marks to Florida - entirely earned series win over our gentle squad).

Fletcher and Quinn?! LMAO

holy shit those perennial losers were so bad that Jeff Finger and Carlo Colaiacovo became household names for all the wrong reasons.

 

[bossram]

I could see member’s of Jim Nill’s staff in Dallas getting a heavy look as Dubas’ successor with how well they’ve moved over the past half decade. More than likely it’ll be Spezza though.

I'm not sure. DAL's extension of their contention window is almost entirely due to finding elite players and other contributors from non-premium draft picks.

Hintz (2nd round)
Robertson (2nd round)
Oettinger (late 1st)
Johnston (late 1st)

That's not really something replicable from management. Maybe you poach their scouts or something.

 

[digmor crusher]

ah ok

if you think a selke nominated player (leafs best PKer) who consistently gets over 90 points isn't worth $10 million and a consistent PPG/30+ goal player who consistently tilts the ice isn't worth... uhhh $7 million, then good luck with that brain damage?

They are not worth that if they choke every year in the playoffs.

 

[TkachukNorris79]

He did say it's Toronto or nothing but... those Pens rumors have been swirling around for a while.

Pipe dream is the Sens new owners can Dorion and DJ as soon as the sale goes through and bring in Alfie, Dubas and Spezza into the front office for the POHO, GM and AGM roles.

Love Dubas and what he did in Toronto, not his fault his core barely showed up for the 2nd round.

 

[RiverbottomChuck]

Florida broke Boston and Toronto

 

[Tuggy]

Gotta think the Leafs go with an experienced guy this time. Would be surprised to see them bring in another first timer.

 

[BigBadBruins7708]

Brain damage is paying restricted free agents that kind of money when they have no leverage and when precious cap space could have been used to improve other areas of the team.

that and neither Matthews or Marner were what he calls them back when they signed those deals

 

[Macman]

He literally didn't have a contract. Either way we'll know after the press conference

He had a contract until June 30th. He is literally done today.

 

[These Are The Days]

It all stems back to blowing $11M on Tavares instead of improving defense, when you already had a franchise 1C.

This cannot be expressed enough. You had Matthews and Kadri already in tow. Why are you f***ing around blowing a fortune on another center (and then having to pay everyone else the same as to justify the signing) instead of getting help for Reilly?

That $11 million could have bought you a defender and goaltender that would've made a difference all those years

 

[LevelingSolo]

Fired? His contract is expiring. You don't even know that it's not his choice to continue.

Teams release seems to imply that they chose to move on from him

 

[EdJovanovski]

Worst GM in NHL history