Kyle Dubas will not be back as GM

[John Price]

didn't win enough playoff games to justify

 

[LevelingSolo]

WE CAN AND WE WILL!!!!!!
WE CAN AND WE WILL!!!!!!

 

[Captain Mountain]

Nice! He's a good GM, always glad to see the Leafs lose one of those.

 

[Dubi Doo]

Dubas was not the problem, he literally did everything possible to put a winning team in Toronto.

He built a great organization, losing him is a massive blow, no matter how they spin this.

This firing is 100% because of the players underdelivering

He really went for it this year. I liked a lot of the moves he made at the deadline. I'm not sure I entirely agree that he wasn't the problem, but you absolutely have a point. If Matthews, Marner, and Tavares deliver in the second round- they likely win it.

Bob also played amazing in a bunch of the games I saw. I wouldn't go as far as to say the Leafs were goalie'd, but he was a big difference maker in that series. It didn't help that the Leafs lost their starter early in the season.

 

[John Price]

 

[DomBarr]

It all stems back to blowing $11M on Tavares instead of improving defense, when you already had a franchise 1C.

the funny thing is I am still convinced that instead of cheering when Tavares chose the Leafs I think Leafs management went "sh*t, he was supposed to take the more money that the other teams were offering.!!! we only made an offer to make our fans happy."

 

[Dubi Doo]

It all stems back to blowing $11M on Tavares instead of improving defense, when you already had a franchise 1C.

This blunder can't be overlooked, though.

 

[MCR74]

And now we see HF flip and pretend they haven't pretended he is a bottom 5 GM this whole time. He is an elite GM, and wherever he goes he will turn that franchise around.

Will be badly missed

Right on cue.

 

[Shrimper]

Welcome to Pittsburgh

 

[PuckG]

While people will have differing opinions on the start of his tenure, in my opinion, he did everything he possibly could to build a cup contender this season. The players undelivered this year, not him.

 

[MCR74]

Didn't he say he was considering stepping away fora bit but if he's a GM next year, it'll be with the Leafs so it's not like he's considering other opportunities?

Wonder who ultimately made the decision of him not being back.

My guess would be the wife.

 

[Macman]

It all stems back to blowing $11M on Tavares instead of improving defense, when you already had a franchise 1C.

Dubas’s mistake was giving massive contracts to two restricted free agents when they had zero leverage and who are now going to be demanding raises. Stupid move.

 

[BigBadBruins7708]

guess the analytics should've told him blowing money on Tavares and paying Matthews/Marner like Cup winners before they won a round was a bad idea...

 

[Slats432]

And now we see HF flip and pretend they haven't pretended he is a bottom 5 GM this whole time. He is an elite GM, and wherever he goes he will turn that franchise around.

Will be badly missed

100% agree that he is a top GM. The badly missed will be decided by his replacement.

 

[ijuka]

And now we see HF flip and pretend they haven't pretended he is a bottom 5 GM this whole time. He is an elite GM, and wherever he goes he will turn that franchise around.

Will be badly missed

Not a bottom 5 GM, but lol at elite.

 

[LevelingSolo]

Dubas gets fired but Shanahan keeps his?

 

[Mister NJ Devil]

And now we see HF flip and pretend they haven't pretended he is a bottom 5 GM this whole time. He is an elite GM, and wherever he goes he will turn that franchise around.

Will be badly missed

Idk about elite but Dubas is better than the playoff product weve seen on the ice

 

[Hammettf2b]

Tavares was good for toronto until only recently, people seem to forget that

He's a good player, there's no denying that. Some people just think the money used on him could have been better used elsewhere.

 

[Ace]

And nothing of value was lost

 

[WetcoastOrca]

A good move for Toronto imo. Hockey is a results oriented business and Dubas had no real playoff success despite a strong regular season record. To his credit he finally figured out this year that you need sandpaper in your top 9 players but it was too little too late. That and botching the goaltending situation plus the Tavares signing were his downfall.

 

[Rabid Ranger]

 

[Bourne Endeavor]

Tavares was good for toronto until only recently, people seem to forget that

I think it's more he was never going to live up to that contract. It also hurt Dubas' negotiation power signing Matthews and Marner as they likely pointed to Tavares and said "we're better. Pay us that." Or their agent's did rather.

That being said, Dubas is criticised a bit too harshly for those contracts. People forget this was pre-Covid when the cap was jumping massively. In the very year Matthews signed, it went up 4.5M. Those contracts wouldn't look bad at all had Covid never happened.

On the whole, I think Dubas is a very good GM that had some growing pains to work out. Kind of hope he does take some time because of Allvin/JR don't work out, I'd be happy to have him in Vancouver down the road.

 

[ViD]

I personally wouldn’t mind him to replace Jarmo

 

[Shanahanigans]

He made his mistakes but he gave his core everything they needed to get the job done and then some. He's a really good GM- even if it was time for a change, finding an upgrade will be difficult.

 

[King Woodballs]

Too bad. He has done a great job. I was hoping he would stay.