Kyle Dubas will not be back as GM

[Doug Prishpreed]

He actually made a lot of good moves but signing Tavares was the death of him.

The death of a guy...who stepped down and will now have more job opportunities than anyone else in the NHL?

 

[Rabid Ranger]

Leafs might be able to get something done now.

Is there a bag of magic beans we aren't aware of?

 

[Martin Skoula]

But I was told he was the chosen one? The messiah? Boy wonder.

A lot of people were told a lot of things, some people even thought Horvat was more than a 50 point middle-6er.

 

[Voight]

Toronto gets rid of the wrong guy. Hilarious.

Decent chance the new GM fires Keefe to bring in someone he wants.

 

[Mitch nylander]

Liked a lot of the moves he made at the deadline? He made only one move - acquiring O'Reilly and Acciari. Acciari's okay, O'Reilly was good, but this still was just one move.

Yes, lost Murray early in the season. Murray, who has had massive injury trouble for years. Could it have been predicted that he might be injury prone? Surfely not.

He made six moves at the deadline lol:

ROR + Acciari deal
Lafferty + Mccabe Deal
Schenn Deal
Moved out Engvall for a 3rd
Sandin for a 1st and Gustafsson
Hunt for Zahorna

As a leafs fan, I thought he did everything he could to make this team a contender. Sad to see him go.

 

[Sens9292]

Wasn’t amazing but wasn’t terrible. Did well managing a Toronto team that was heavily pressed against the cap.

Self inflicted

 

[wasunder]

I don’t get why people are so polarized with Dubas. Seems to be two camps that either think he’s a genius or those who think he’s the worst GM in the league. To me he seems fairly average with his share of blunders(Tavares, RfA negotiations) and successes

 

[Team_Spirit]

Lou might be dead before that horrendous contract he gave Horvat ends. let that sink in.

Overpaying a 2nd C > not having a goalie

Lou built the foundation and Kyle could not get anything done with it. All Kyle had to do is built around Marner Matthews Andersen.

He blew his cap on Tavares, went with Campbell soft D ect ect. This year deals were a bit better and the team advanced so there's that.

 

[AvroArrow]

Wishing Kyle the best, likeable guy I think he had a great season as a GM. This years failure is on the players not him. Time for a new chapter in Leaf land.

 

[Scotianhab]

Marc Bergevin is available

 

[Chainshot]

Tavares was good for toronto until only recently, people seem to forget that

Yet the defense and goaltending have not been throughout. *shrug*

 

[Mitch nylander]

Hope the leafs replace him internally with Pridham or grab Tulsky.

It would be a nightmare if they brought in a guy like Wilson/Chiarelli/Bergevin/Chayka

 

[The Hockey Tonk Man]

Dubas was not the problem, he literally did everything possible to put a winning team in Toronto.

He built a great organization, losing him is a massive blow, no matter how they spin this.

This firing is 100% because of the players underdelivering

Yup, nailed it.

 

[David McConnor]

It's very rare to see someone accomplish so little while raking in so much public acclaim.

Whichever team this guy goes to will probably see about the same results as the Leafs while he embarrasses himself by picking fights with opposing fans in the home team's club section.

Huge W for the Leafs today, IMO. Pains me to see it.

I agree. Dubas never had any understanding of the intangible that make up a winning hockey culture. Even his OHL Greyhounds haven't won a single championship. Even his talent evaluation skills are highly overrated. Remember, the bulk of the Leafs' talent gold mine was INHERITED by Dubas. If anything, he depleted it. The Kadri trade alone overshadows any "good" transaction people give him credit for.

 

[Evergreen]

I personally think Dubas is a great GM. Sure he made mistakes, particularly in terms of overpaying in some signings, but he was very young and a new GM then, with Lou having just left. I think he’s learned from those mistakes and is a better GM now than he was when he made some of those mistakes. I thought his deadline moves this year were actually terrific. He was let down by some of his star players not performing.

 

[Asinine]

This feels like when a talentless auto-tune mumble rapper dies and everyone pretends they were a legend or something.

 

[BCNate]

Tavares was good for toronto until only recently, people seem to forget that

That's not the point though. Tavares has been good, I don't think anyone would argue that. The issue always has been, and still is that it was an awful allocation of 11 million dollars.

 

[The Mighty Duck Man]

Nope. The noise recently is that the Leafs' decision makers wanted him back but he's pushed back saying he needs time and space to think about it.

They might have not wanted to risk waiting. And either chose to proceed this way or were told if they need an answer now, it's no.

Too much is unknown to make bold assumptions. But you can certainly have reason to think Dubas' choice might be driving this.

I don’t think it’s exactly a bold assumption to take the Leafs at their word. A lot of the noise is emanating from Dubas’ comments but since then no one really considered that the Leafs themselves might not want to keep a GM who didn’t make a ton of progress towards the only goal that matters in five years. Regardless of what you think of Dubas it’s a results driven business and fairly understandable.

 

[dukeofjive]

Unless it was wrongly reported but I am sure I heard that Dubas did not want to go work for another team. And that is décision was based on is family experience of him being the gm of the leafs.

I dont get the whole hes going to go win somewhere else.

 

[therocket9]

Welcome to Pittsburgh

Why on earth would Dubas want to go to Pittsburgh bunch of aging players that all have full NMC no prospects and no goalie.

 

[BHD]

Nice! He's a good GM, always glad to see the Leafs lose one of those.

Based on what?

 

[wonton15]

Jim Benning come on down!

 

[RogerRoger]

The death of a guy...who stepped down and will now have more job opportunities than anyone else in the NHL?

Is that confirmed? They could have pulled the offer since he wasn't able to handle Toronto's pressure which wouldn't have been lower next year.

 

[John Mandalorian]

I don’t think it’s exactly a bold assumption to take the Leafs at their word. A lot of the noise is emanating from Dubas’ comments but since then no one really considered that the Leafs themselves might not want to keep a GM who didn’t make a ton of progress towards the only goal that matters in five years. Regardless of what you think of Dubas it’s a results driven business and fairly understandable.

Are you really taking them at their word by characterizing it this way?

 

[Rich Nixon]

Should hire Chuck Fletcher to finish his father's work