Confirmed with Link: Kyle Dubas named President of Hockey Operations

[BrookswasHere44]

Didn't he say a GM would be strong in things they he's not necessarily strong at? So id imagine it wouldn't be an analytical type person?

 

[Big Friggin Dummy]

Didn't he say a GM would be strong in things they he's not necessarily strong at? So id imagine it wouldn't be an analytical type person?

I image he's gonna look for a likeminded person so there's a bit of familiarity and agreement on the approach from a base standpoint.

 

[Pancakes]

The fact that Dubas said they're not likely to get a gm until July also means this is basically gonna be his team for the next year at least. If he does the draft and all the FA signings that's pretty much all she wrote and the new gm isn't gonna do much for a while when they come in.

 

[Turin]

Didn't he say a GM would be strong in things they he's not necessarily strong at? So id imagine it wouldn't be an analytical type person?

I think it’s probably somebody with experience playing at that level.

 

[Captain Hook]

The Penguins have Kyle Dubas as their POHO and the Flyers have Keith Jones lol

If Dubas hired Tulsky now that'd be amazing.
Assuming that FSG told him his services won't be wanted here and it's too late though.

I agree. Dubas talked about hiring someone who is progressive which sounds like Tulsky could fit the bill but Dubas and Tulsky are both analytics guys and Dubas also said he may want someone who brings an element different from him. I don't think Spezza is ready to be GM but he does bring something different as far as being a former NHL player and having that prospective while perhaps sharing Dubas progressive hockey views in many ways. I guess we'll see.

No idea if Dubas works out here but it was refreshing to hear a younger, more articulate guy. Hextall wasn't a good speaker and came off to me like such a boring Pittsburgh dad type.

I do wonder how the GM hiring is going to work. I would have to think Dubas will handle the initial wave of UFA as interim GM since I'm not sure how a new GM could possibly have enough time to decide to sign or re-sign players on such short notice.

 

[Big Friggin Dummy]

The fact that Dubas said they're not likely to get a gm until July also means this is basically gonna be his team for the next year at least. If he does the draft and all the FA signings that's pretty much all she wrote and the new gm isn't gonna do much for a while when they come in.

I'm not sure the GM's gonna do much even if/when he hires one. I said before, it feels like a situation where the roles/titles are reversed and Dubas as POHO is gonna be steering the ship while the GM is going to be advisor. Sorta like Vancouver with JR/Alvin, but hopefully not absolutely dogshit.

 

[Malkinstheman]

Didn't he say a GM would be strong in things they he's not necessarily strong at? So id imagine it wouldn't be an analytical type person?

He said it would be a "progressive" thinking person so it wont be anyone like Bergevin/Chia etc. Id expect somone similar to Tulsky/Greeley/Darche

 

[WickedWrister]

Speaking of analytics, thought this was an interesting watch. I recall someone posting a similar talk from Tulsky at this conference: .

 

[Malkinstheman]

Dubas specifically mentioned that theyll wait until July so that they can have permission to talk to certain candidates. That makes me think Pridham could be someone he has in mind. With the leafs having a new GM themselves, they probably dont wanna let Pridham go until the big stuff is done over the next month. Dubas and Pridham are pretty close and Pridham is gonna get a GM job eventually

 

[Honour Over Glory]

Honestly I think Dubas just ends up taking over as GM as well. Or he just gets a puppet of someone from Toronto where Dubas is truly calling the shots.

I don't see that at all.

If you actually look at what Dubas did in Toronto, the people he hired and what he changed there away from the drafting and trading, he's been doing the sort of things he was just hired for. I think if anything, he likely has always wanted to do something like this after being a GM and realizing it. He excelled at that side of the process in Toronto, the traditional GM side, I think some might say he was learning on the job and did moderately, but the Hockey Ops side he was incredibly forward thinking and made some smart hires and additions to regular hockey protocols.

Taking over the GM role as well when he's likely wanted to do something like this, I don't see it happening.

Speaking of analytics, thought this was an interesting watch. I recall someone posting a similar talk from Tulsky at this conference: .

See, Tulsky being hired as the GM would make more sense to me given his back ground and I think him and Dubas as a tandem would actually do very well together. Same for Botterill imo, he was also very much into the analytics, he was handed a shit show of a team in Buffalo but the fruits of moves he made are what they're enjoying right now. Personally, I don't want any re-hires in new roles, at all. So I would lean towards a Dubas-Tulsky hire for Hockey Ops and a GM.

Tulsky can wait it out, or be one now.

 

[mephisto1812]

I think he could become both in the future, but based off what he said in this presser he's gonna find one in July.

Haase still seems to think Tulsky's a distinct possibility. Fingers crossed. That'd be the dream team.
I wonder if he's buying time for the Treliving decision on Pridham. But if it's not him, then which Toronto puppet?

I'd absolutely love to have Tulsky under Dubas, we will see who they end up with, if anyone.

 

[Ryder71]

I think Darche for Gm and Spezza for AGM would really round out things nicely.

One thing I've learned over the years that this past w



If you're trying to get to Pens

I'd absolutely love to have Tulsky under Dubas, we will see who they end up with, if anyone.

Tulsky is kinda Dubas light, nah.

At least with FSG it seems more likely that their final two candidates are the two I wanted, so can't complain about that I guess.

 

[sxvnert]

Dubas specifically mentioned that theyll wait until July so that they can have permission to talk to certain candidates. That makes me think Pridham could be someone he has in mind. With the leafs having a new GM themselves, they probably dont wanna let Pridham go until the big stuff is done over the next month. Dubas and Pridham are pretty close and Pridham is gonna get a GM job eventually

Pridham was a Shanny hiring. Maybe Prid is just a nice guy.

If Dubas hired Tulsky now that'd be amazing.
Assuming that FSG told him his services won't be wanted here and it's too late though.

Dubas wouldnt hire anyone who could one day threaten his job. Expect all rookie hirings.

 

[mephisto1812]

One thing I've learned over the years that this past w



If you're trying to get to Pens

I'd absolutely love to have Tulsky under Dubas, we will see who they end up with, if anyone.

For the record, didn't mean to quote all of that

 

[cygnus47]

It's definitely Kyle's team, I'm glad to see that. I like him as the grand strategist and possibly having A/GMs brought in on intervals to handle different situations. Could easily bring in one set of people to bring in ideas and strategies to handle hanging on for dear life to the playoffs and then move on to another group for the rebuild. Having Kyle up top would give me confidence that things are at least thoughtful and organised and the organisation will be top notch throughout. Hopefully he's learned not to just cling dearly to anyone from the Soo.

Hopefully he can convince Sully to try and re-implement the 2016 system ffs.

 

[legobeard]

Let's get Spezza as GM so he can Spezza laugh every time he announces a trade as Dubas looks on with love in his eyes

He probably has spezza as an option lol

 

[Lara Emily]

He probably has spezza as an option lol

He f***in better

I want my himbo captain smiley mc dork laugh

 

[Lara Emily]

Cruisin' on down Fifth Ave
You're relaxed and feelin' good
Next thing that you know you're seein'
Penguins in the neighborhood!

Skating down at center ice
Practicin' with the stars
Take a left wing to the net
Place your right wing at the Bars

It's the magic Dubas
Po-HOP it's a wild new ride!
Come on!
Bet on the magic Dubas!

 

[oooooooooohCanada]

Dubas is such a good fit for the Pens as a President. He's going to completely rebuild your entire org. That's what he did in Toronto, and he destined for a Presidents job which is why he got fired by Shanny. Every branch of the off-ice stuff is going to improve ten fold. Dubas was beloved by his staff and set the standard every day with his passion and commitment.

Going to be interesting to see what he can try to accomplish with the aging core but if that doesnt work out he's someone you want for the long haul and rebuild. Crosby probably will be his AGM by then ha.

 

[ThosePuckingPenguins]

Dubas is such a good fit for the Pens as a President. He's going to completely rebuild your entire org. That's what he did in Toronto, and he destined for a Presidents job which is why he got fired by Shanny. Every branch of the off-ice stuff is going to improve ten fold. Dubas was beloved by his staff and set the standard every day with his passion and commitment.

Going to be interesting to see what he can try to accomplish with the aging core but if that doesnt work out he's someone you want for the long haul and rebuild. Crosby probably will be his AGM by then ha.

I actually think there’s a real possibility of that happening. Dubas will likely be here by the time Sid retires. He hangs it up and Dubas immediately brings him into the FO.

 

[WickedWrister]

Cruisin' on down Fifth Ave
You're relaxed and feelin' good
Next thing that you know you're seein'
Penguins in the neighborhood!

Skating down at center ice
Practicin' with the stars
Take a left wing to the net
Place your right wing at the Bars

It's the magic Dubas
Po-HOP it's a wild new ride!
Come on!
Bet on the magic Dubas!

In the realm of hockey, a tale unfolds, Kyle Dubas, a maestro, his story now molds.
As the Penguins' ship sails into new lands, He takes the helm, with passion in his hands.

With astute vision and a strategic mind, He'll build a powerhouse, one of a kind.
From the draft table to savvy trades, Dubas shapes a dynasty that never fades.

Pittsburgh's faithful, with hearts aflutter, Embrace their leader, the ultimate shutter.
For with Dubas at the helm, they know, The Penguins' legacy will continue to grow.

 

[Lara Emily]

In the realm of hockey, a tale unfolds, Kyle Dubas, a maestro, his story now molds.
As the Penguins' ship sails into new lands, He takes the helm, with passion in his hands.

With astute vision and a strategic mind, He'll build a powerhouse, one of a kind.
From the draft table to savvy trades, Dubas shapes a dynasty that never fades.

Pittsburgh's faithful, with hearts aflutter, Embrace their leader, the ultimate shutter.
For with Dubas at the helm, they know, The Penguins' legacy will continue to grow.

Is this original or a reworking of something else?

 

[WickedWrister]

Is this original or a reworking of something else?

ChatGPT lol

 

[Lara Emily]

ChatGPT lol

Looooool

Mine was me editing The Magic School Bus theme song lyrics

 

[Jacob]

I think Sullivan stays but we can gauge the amount of leash he has by what happens with the assistants and WB/S HC. Dubas inherited Babcock but hired his guy for the Marlies and that’s who he promoted for the Leafs once Babcock was out. NHL HCs nowadays take assistant jobs rather than sitting around waiting for mid-season openings so it’s important to have someone within the organization you’re comfortable with promoting.

Guessing he brings in one of the Marlies current assistants for WB/S, or Eric Wellwood who is Toronto’s ECHL affiliate HC and quite young and relatively forward-thinking like Dubas. Not Kyle.