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Garthinater said:
How does that situation not apply to hyman?

Either way we lose hyman. The difference is that one option is we get 2 draft picks vs nothing at all.
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It is easy. With Hyman to Dave Edmonton cap space and that cap space comes with a price, Edmonton didn't pay that price, so they didn't get him. There were no free picks.
 
colchar said:
I've always been a Marner supporter and one of Willie's biggest detractors, but even I am thinking that Marner has to go so that his salary can be used elsewhere. It was their playoff performances that changed my mind.

I can't see Kyle 'Spreadsheet' Dubas trading him though.
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If dubas trades willy I would go full Liam Neeson on his behind Taken style (first one only, others sucked lol)
 
Azail said:
Again I didn't quote you, but more a general statement about what a lot of posters say on here.

Truth is every team losses assets when they are going for it, and in hindsight it always looks horrible. I thought Foligno, like many hockey analysts, thought it was what they needed. In reality it worked horribly and he was a broken player his time here.

If you think trading Freddy away prior to the season starting when he was our defacto starter, then all the power to you. You won't find many other teams going for it trading away their number 1.

Maybe we should just stay status quo and not ever trade assets to improve the team?

Division leaders going into the playoffs shouldn't trade their draft capital to bolster the team?

Don't worry, I stretched before this post. I'll be fine. Appreciate the concern though.
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Show me a poster who said that every playoff team trades their ufas. I'd like to see where you are getting this from.

How many gms trade three (3) first round picks in just three (3) years of being gm?

How many of those lose out on numerous draft picks and assets by refusing to trade any up coming ufa's?

How many of those lost all three (3) of their series'?

Dubas has squandered assets like few others and has the least amount to show for it.

Isn't the role of the gm to make our team better? Then why would he refuse two free draft picks? Edmontons cap is of no concern to us.
 
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Leaf Fans said:
It is easy. With Hyman to Dave Edmonton cap space and that cap space comes with a price, Edmonton didn't pay that price, so they didn't get him. There were no free picks.
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I'll edit the options then:

Situation A
We lose hyman via FA, get nothing in return but Oilers have to pay 400k more per year for 7 years.

Situation B
We lose hyman via trade, get 2 picks and Oilers get to save 400k per year for 7 years.

You think situation A is better for the leafs?

Please explain how situation A improves the maples leafs.
 
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I miself am pronouncing the word and name "dubas" nowadays with a french accent and code like: (Dubaaa), like with no S at all. Only the letter A continuing to roll. I highly recommend it to all of y'all too.
 
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Bomber0104 said:
Yeah I mean we only have none other than Nick Foligno telling reporters that he had a pre-existing injury sustained before the Leafs acquired him...

But yeah, I'm sure he's publicly lying about his own injury in order to make Kyle Dubas look bad...err...excuse me... even more incompetent than he's already shown to be.

:laugh:
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Dubas bought a used car with the engine light on, but paid as if it were brand new :laugh: Salesmen love Kyle Dubas!
 
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Garthinater said:
I'll edit the options then:

Situation A
We lose hyman via FA, get nothing in return but Oilers have to pay 400k more per year for 7 years.

Situation B
We lose hyman via trade, get 2 picks and Oilers get to save 400k per year for 7 years.

You think situation A is better for the leafs?

Please explain how situation A improves the maples leafs.
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I choose option C. We don't accept less than what the team has set as their valuation for a player. We lose Hyman, but we would have anyway. This is the same as all the other free agents except Goodrow. The is better long term as GMs understand they have to he serious when they make offers instead of just expecting the GM to put up or shut up.
 
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Leaf Fans said:
I choose option C. We don't accept less than what the team has set as their valuation for a player. We lose Hyman, but we would have anyway. This is the same as all the other free agents except Goodrow. The is better long term as GMs understand they have to he serious when they make offers instead of just expecting the GM to put up or shut up.
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Lovely virtue signalling aside, how is situation C helping us improve as a team?

If anything, doing a solid for Edmonton can lead to them returning the favour. Instead dubas decided to burn that bridge.

I'm shocked you are still holding this position. It makes absolutely no sense.
 
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Garthinater said:
Lovely virtue signalling aside, how is situation C helping us improve as a team?

If anything, doing a solid for Edmonton can lead to them returning the favour. Instead dubas decided to burn that bridge.

I'm shocked you are still holding this position. It is makes absolutely no sense.
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I am equally shocked that you have only slightly come off that position. It really makes no sense. But at least you have dropped the free asset nonsense. There is hope for reason yet.
 
Leaf Fans said:
I am equally shocked that you have only slightly come off that position. It really makes no sense. But at least you have dropped the free asset nonsense. There is hope for reason yet.
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Those draft picks were free to take but dubas refused so he could show other gms that he won't be pushed around lol

As if they haven't been paying attention for the last 3 years. Dubas was voted the gm agents most want to deal with because they know he's weak.

Dubas, like his fan boys, have been wrong countless times. This is just another line in a long list of failures.
 
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Garthinater said:
Those draft picks were free to take but dubas refused so he could show other gms that he won't be pushed around lol

Dubas, like his fan boys, have been wrong countless times. This is just another line in a long list of failures.
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Where are these Dubas fanboys that you talk about? I don't think that is the case. Dubas just dispelled the notion that he should take whatever is offered. Holland crapped the bed here not Dubas.
 
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Leaf Fans said:
Where are these Dubas fanboys that you talk about? I don't think that is the case. Dubas just dispelled the notion that he should take whatever is offered. Holland crapped the bed here not Dubas.
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There's a case to say they both did. Though I am in the camp that thinks a 6th is better than nothing.
 
socko said:
Some take picks for prospects
Some take picks for players
Some take picks for cap space
Some take picks for other picks
Some take picks for cash
Some take picks for future considerations
But Dubas ain't gonna be the Fool
Who's gonna take picks for Nothing.
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priceless
 
Coachcorner said:
I miself am pronouncing the word and name "dubas" nowadays with a french accent and code like: (Dubaaa), like with no S at all. Only the letter A continuing to roll. I highly recommend it to all of y'all too.
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To the bolded, in one of the languages I speak it means "Sinking or Drowning " :laugh:
 
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Dubas is still GM cause he is taking this one for the team imo.

Larry Tanenbaum doesn't like losing Hyman, and quite frankly, doesn't sit well with me either.

Tanenbaum, I speculate. told Dubas, go tell these guys to shove their picks up their......
 
Garthinater said:
I'll edit the options then:

Situation A
We lose hyman via FA, get nothing in return but Oilers have to pay 400k more per year for 7 years.

Situation B
We lose hyman via trade, get 2 picks and Oilers get to save 400k per year for 7 years.

You think situation A is better for the leafs?

Please explain how situation A improves the maples leafs.
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No explanation that makes sense, but won’t matter because it doesn’t fit the narrative Team Dubas is pushing…..
 
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Leaf Fans said:
I choose option C. We don't accept less than what the team has set as their valuation for a player. We lose Hyman, but we would have anyway. This is the same as all the other free agents except Goodrow. The is better long term as GMs understand they have to he serious when they make offers instead of just expecting the GM to put up or shut up.
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Too bad he didn't take a hard stance when negotiating with his players which would have saved millions per year on the cap.

It was clear Hyman was going to Edmonton from the beginning after Dubas didn't properly plan to have money to re-sign him. The $500k savings was not worth a ton to Edmonton. They got the player they were after and Dubas lost a player and missed out on mid round picks. Terrible terrible asset management.
 
justloveleafs said:
Dubas is still GM cause he is taking this one for the team imo.

Larry Tanenbaum doesn't like losing Hyman, and quite frankly, doesn't sit well with me either.

Tanenbaum, I speculate. told Dubas, go tell these guys to shove their picks up their......
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Larry is like 76 years old. I doubt he cares anymore :laugh:
 
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