Unfortunately the habs ruined him, he will be a 3rd line C who gets 15 goals and has a few good streaks.
Nothing wrong with that, but yes when picked as high as him.
Nothing wrong with that, but yes when picked as high as him.
Value of: Kotkaniemi extension
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Yeah, Wadell did real good. 6 million, a 1st and a third for 7 goals.
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I think they come to terms on a 4.25 x 3 sort of deal where he bets on himself to cash in when the caps up and he's more developed.
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I'd still do the same deal all day over trading a first for Christian Dvorak when my team sucks as bad as the Habs, even if Kotkaniemi was pointless, and competing for the Masters like Dvorak.
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Jesus, so many insufferable posts in here. It’s like the original thread just got resurrected.
Im betting on something around 4x4
Im betting on something around 4x4
Habs will pick top10 with their pick, therefore AZ will get CAR's 1st this year (bottom 5 in the 1st rd)
Tell me again how's that going to hurt the Habs?
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Because the KK and DVO moves are the reason why each team is at lol.
Neither has played a significant role in where their respective teams currently sit.
Take both moves away and they probably sit exactly where they are lol.
But if ya wanna justify moves based on standings and not actual player contribution........you win lol.
Lol your full of it...
Dvorak would easilly fetch a 1st in 2022 from any team looking to improve it's C depth for a playoff run. ESPCIALLY at his cap hit for another year after
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A late 1st for what should be a 3rd line C ( call it a 2C if ya want) cost controlled under 5 mil, over 3/4 years is a great deal. Look around for comparable.
A late 1st + for a 6 mil 3rd line W or 4th C is a better deal? And to resign your locked in with agent having big leverage.....
Ok, got it
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He leads them in 5 on 5 Gs? Really wow. I'm shocked, genuinely.
And a quick check of team stats....aagghh I'll leave it.
If he leads them in goals 5 on 5 from 3rd line minutes why is he getting no PP time? Seems odd? But Id like to hear your reasoning.
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He plays on 2nd PP unit, because the first one is already really good.
He's still developing but he's been playing pretty well lately. 6 points in his last 4 games. His underlying numbers are also excellent.
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Not so sure about that. Dude has been held off the score sheet in 20 of 28 games this year.
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3 x 3 million. KK won't find better deal on the open market. Every nickel and penny above it is a plus.
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Including Brindamour who is only giving him like 11 minutes 5 on 5 per game.
Good thing you're here to straighten us, and Brindamour, out and let us know how well he is 'ackshually' doing.
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Ok, the post I responded to said he led CH in 5 on 5 goals. Not per 60/min which isn't a great stat depending on total minutes responsibility, matchups......
And if he is on 2nd PP unit and has 0 Gs in how many games? Not a great look.
Yes I appreciate he is still developimg and still young and is in a good spot in Carolina.
But again your post I responded to said 5 on 5 Gs ( no mention of per/ min which actually lowers the stat I responded to ) and the fact he gets PP time with no goals isn't a plus either.
Hopefully he does well. I wish the kid no ill will.
Ya he can, 5 mil next year is QO if thats what he wants. Then it's it's just 2 for 2 to equal your best offer. That'll be easy.
My guess is 3 to 4 yrs at 4 mil. Or he takes QO n rolls the dice again
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GMs are under no obligation to be truthful with the media, but Waddell was unusually adamant that there was no agreement:
LeBrun: No regrets. Hurricanes GM Don Waddell on Jesperi Kotkaniemi's offer sheet and an 'unbelievably slow start'
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Of course. My eyes were drawn to the comment about Waddell not being in a rush to start talking extension. That nugget wasn't needed to get the point that nothing improper has occurred across.
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It will be around 4.5x4 so I went with the 2nd option (could've picked the 1st as it also has 4.5M).
I've watched most of Canes games this year, and it looks like he's improving after a not so great start. Seems to be important piece and I think both parties are willing to have a fair deal. Sure he hasn't been worth his $6.1 contract for this year, but (most of us know that) that was never the issue for this season.
I've watched most of Canes games this year, and it looks like he's improving after a not so great start. Seems to be important piece and I think both parties are willing to have a fair deal. Sure he hasn't been worth his $6.1 contract for this year, but (most of us know that) that was never the issue for this season.
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As usual with you its a bunch of nonsense. Car would be amazing with or without KK and The Habs would be bad with or without KK or Dvorak.
Also as per usual you pick one metric you feel makes The Habs looks bad and cling to that in the hopes that people believe you.
Ah yes, post the stats without context. Brilliant troll move!!!
KK plays on a top team and has been average at best. This cannot be argued. Dvorak and Suzuki have better numbers on a terrible team ravaged with injuries and covid. Its only normal their numbers would be affected. As for Caufield, who knows what's going on there, he doesn't look ready to me.
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