Kings did not trade for Chychrun!

[LAKings88]

The Kings should target a Dumolin, Weegar, Soucy, Edmundson, McCabe type of dman. Cheaper and exactly what we need. Chychrun's too expensive. It's essentially like having two Doughtys on the team. Doesn't make sense.

The only two truly available are Edmundson and McCabe. Don’t think either are worth a first honestly.

If LA is happy with Durzi on the right. Move out Walker in the Summer.

23-24
Anderson Doughty
Durzi Roy
Bjornfot Spence
Moverare

AHL/call up: Clarke

Trade Durzi next deadline if Spence proves his worth.

Chychrun is still the best dman available but that price is stupid. You pay for contract and term but must reduce it due to injury history. Still, he is underrated by so many. But all these dmen are currently at inflated prices.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

All the sellers of LHD are trying to get Savard prices in a market where there are like 10 guys available. Hope one buyer doens't f*** up the market

 

[LAKings88]

All the sellers of LHD are trying to get Savard prices in a market where there are like 10 guys available. Hope one buyer doens't f*** up the market

They always do

 

[Surf Nutz]

The only two truly available are Edmundson and McCabe. Don’t think either are worth a first honestly.

If LA is happy with Durzi on the right. Move out Walker in the Summer.

23-24
Anderson Doughty
Durzi Roy
Bjornfot Spence
Moverare

AHL/call up: Clarke

Trade Durzi next deadline

Chychrun is still the best dman available but that price is stupid. You pay for contract and term but must reduce it due to injury history. Still, he is underrated by so many. But all these dmen are currently at inflated prices.

I like it but Blake will poke around for LHD and GT signings in the off season, if he is smart enough to avoid the inflationary trade market,
I seriously do not think you trade Durzi. He is stepping on less land mines and when he switches back to RD , it might seem easier to him.
DD has not impressed me on the PP lately. I would put SD on PP1 and DD on PP2.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

I like it but Blake will poke around for LHD and GT signings in the off season, if he is smart enough to avoid the inflationary trade market,
I seriously do not think you trade Durzi. He is stepping on less land mines and when he switches back to RD , it might seem easier to him.
DD has not impressed me on the PP lately. I would put SD on PP1 and DD on PP2.

I think he is for the most part, andt he team has played well enough that he won't be 'desperate'

Yet the issues are still the issues as I always say, and with the entire west looking vulnerable, if he can find a fair swing, he HAS to take it

 

[aceofpace]

23-24
Anderson Doughty
Durzi Roy
Bjornfot Spence
Moverare

AHL/call up: Clarke

So you're saying we should put Clarke in the AHL next year? If anything I say ship out both Roy and Walker to make room for Clarke in the big club. Also since both Roy and Walker have played reasonably well this season they should get a sizable return for a need (LHD, goalie).

 

[LAKings88]

So you're saying we should put Clarke in the AHL next year? If anything I say ship out both Roy and Walker to make room for Clarke in the big club. Also since both Roy and Walker have played reasonably well this season they should get a sizable return for a need (LHD, goalie).

Unless he blows them away during camp it may be an option.

Roy
Durzi
Walker
Spence

Durzi has I think one more year after this. Spence has proven he needs to be up.

Walker needs to go.

Durzi may have to stay on the right. I doubt they trade Roy and Durzi.

If you want to run

Doughty
Spence
Clarke

You need to trade all three as you said, just can’t see that.

Trade Walker or Durzi for a LHD this deadline and the other at the draft is an option.

Clarke still disappears behind a pole. Wouldn’t hurt to give him AHL time. Hopefully with an enforcer that scares the shit out of people.

 

[FSL KINGS]

Team can start competing as soon as they find a starting goalie patch the 3C & sort out the defense. Got a bunch of pieces on D. Need to figure out how they fit together.

 

[Chazz Reinhold]

Jakob Chychrun​

The Jakob Chychrun saga looks like it’s finally coming to an end and his value has never been higher. It’s not just the blistering shot or the strong point totals that make Chychrun such an attractive piece, it’s his ability to drive play at both ends of the ice. He’s been a true difference-maker in Arizona’s lineup this season.

That wasn’t the case last year where Chychrun regressed across the board, but this season the 24-year-old is proving it was just a blip on a bad team. He’s the real deal and a true number-one option. He’s the kind of player that can change a team’s makeup dramatically on the backend and that’s worth paying for.

In tough minutes on a bad team, Chychrun has been pretty sensational this season. He’s the only Coyotes defender with a positive share of the goals at 58 percent and his 49 percent expected goals share is second among defensemen. Relative to teammates he makes a huge impact with Arizona’s goal differential per 60 jumping by 1.31 with him on the ice while its expected goal differential jumps up by 0.5. Both rank in the league’s top 10 this season.

Digging deeper, Chychrun is very strong with the puck on his stick. According to data tracked by Corey Sznajder, he creates a lot of offense with his shot contributions, is one of the league’s strongest defenders at leading the rush, and is terrific at breaking the puck out. There are some questions about his play without the puck, but Chychrun is excellent at limiting scoring chances off the rush and defending the blue line.

Chychrun does it all and it’s no surprise his on-ice numbers are so strong for the Coyotes this season. He’s an all-around force with tremendous offensive upside, one that is projected to bring 2.5 wins of value to his next team. That’s an incredibly impactful addition.

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The five biggest names available at this year's trade deadline and what to expect out of each of them.

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[No Name The Nameless]

Deadline deep dive: Analyzing the five biggest names on the trade market

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The writer fell for it. He clearly was tricked by Arizona’s clever deployment schemes to trick all of the NHL and raise JC’s value. What an idiot.

 

[Statto]

The only two truly available are Edmundson and McCabe. Don’t think either are worth a first honestly.

If LA is happy with Durzi on the right. Move out Walker in the Summer.

23-24
Anderson Doughty
Durzi Roy
Bjornfot Spence
Moverare

AHL/call up: Clarke

Trade Durzi next deadline if Spence proves his worth.

Chychrun is still the best dman available but that price is stupid. You pay for contract and term but must reduce it due to injury history. Still, he is underrated by so many. But all these dmen are currently at inflated prices.

I don’t see why you’d put the blue chip D in the AHL next year. He is ready and arguably should slot straight in at 2RD whilst also quarterbacking the powerplay. If there is a decision it’s who of Durzi and Roy the keep for 3RD. Apart from anything having Clarke on the roster on his ELC helps cap situation and he is ready now.

I don’t believe in rushing guys but at the same time he needs to play.

 

[Lt Dan]

I am trying to be more positive this 2023.

Blake said this around 2/15

When looking at his current roster, Blake believes that the team, as it is assembled right now, “can compete with some of the top teams”. He’s never been one for the splashy, blanket statements about his team, nor should he be. He does believe in the group as assembled and understands that there is a balance between continuing to let guys play, who are making great strides right now, and also possibly adding to that group.

“I think a little bit of our balance is, with the younger players, the ones that are starting to solidify themselves in the lineup, is it better let them keep going,” he added. “You don’t want to bring something in that’s going to throw that mix off. I think we have a good mix right now and I think they’re real comfortable in Todd’s style. So, to bring anything in there, I think it has to improve our team, without taking anything out of that lineup. It has to add to that team to make it better.”

So...the good to come out of Saturday night..... is that Blake HAS to realize that our D is too porous to hold a lead and that we need a goalie of the future.

I think the front office would have a completely different mindset if Saturday's game ended 5-1 or even 6-1 and this could be a good thing for the future of this organ-eye-zation

 

[johnjm22]

I am trying to be more positive this 2023.

Blake said this around 2/15



So...the good to come out of Saturday night..... is that Blake HAS to realize that our D is too porous to hold a lead and that we need a goalie of the future.

I think the front office would have a completely different mindset if Saturday's game ended 5-1 or even 6-1 and this could be a good thing for the future of this organ-eye-zation

The defense hasn't been that bad though. Kings are 12th in the league in lowest expected goals against. And I'm pretty sure they're ranked much higher than that since Mid-December.

Certainly an upgrade at LHD would help, but it's still goalie that's the main issue.

King's record this year when they get average-level goaltending is fantastic I'd assume.

 

[LAKings88]

I don’t see why you’d put the blue chip D in the AHL next year. He is ready and arguably should slot straight in at 2RD whilst also quarterbacking the powerplay. If there is a decision it’s who of Durzi and Roy the keep for 3RD. Apart from anything having Clarke on the roster on his ELC helps cap situation and he is ready now.

I don’t believe in rushing guys but at the same time he needs to play.

Like I said, it depends on his camp and hopefully his ability to train and put on muscle. He likely joins the AHL after the OHL is over. Should be a good indicator.

Spence should not be in the AHL another year. If they can't fit him and are going to give it to Clarke, they should trade Spence. Roy and Durzi aren't old and could be around for awhile. I see Spence as a Durzi replacement if he walks or is traded in a year. As it is even with Durzi and Walker traded it's one to many rhd.

If the run Doughty/Clarke/Roy, that's fine. Need to send those other guys out for needs/picks. Not sure Spence wants to be 7th or deserves that either.

Unless they keep Durzi on the right and scrap the LHD idea.

 

[johnjm22]

f*** it. Let's just get Erik Karlsson. He's worth a 16.1M cap hit apparently.

We'll rock Doughty, Karlsson, Clarke on the right side next year.

 

[Chazz Reinhold]

The defense hasn't been that bad though. Kings are 12th in the league in lowest expected goals against. And I'm pretty sure they're ranked much higher than that since Mid-December.

Certainly an upgrade at LHD would help, but it's still goalie that's the main issue.

King's record this year when they get average-level goaltending is fantastic I'd assume.

The private models (which account for much more information on the ice, including cross-ice passes, tips, screens, etc.) have the Kings as one of the best team defenses in the league. Clear Sight Analytics has the Kings giving up the second fewest medium- and high-danger chances in the league.

 

[FSL KINGS]

f*** it. Let's just get Erik Karlsson. He's worth a 16.1M cap hit apparently.

We'll rock Doughty, Karlsson, Clarke on the right side next year.

Brought this up on the trade boards as an example of why AZ not taking cap back makes Chychrun's cap hit meaningless.

If retained to 8-9 & took Cal back cap would work & ask probably less than ask on Chychrun. Do it Blake.

 

[johnjm22]

Add a good goaltender and the Kings go from good to contender.

Add a good LHD and the Kings go from good to a little better.

 

[Kudelski37]

I am trying to be more positive this 2023.

Blake said this around 2/15



So...the good to come out of Saturday night..... is that Blake HAS to realize that our D is too porous to hold a lead and that we need a goalie of the future.

I think the front office would have a completely different mindset if Saturday's game ended 5-1 or even 6-1 and this could be a good thing for the future of this organ-eye-zation

Disagree. The problem was I watched the 2nd and most of the third period on my big TV after the outdoor game finished. That is the only time I haven't watched the Kings on my phone since the all-star break. After the Coyotes tied the game, I switched back to watching on my phone. Kings won. Needless to say I'm watching all of the games on my phone from here on out. Problem solved.

 

[kingsfan28]

All the sellers of LHD are trying to get Savard prices in a market where there are like 10 guys available. Hope one buyer doens't f*** up the market

Yeah, all it take is one dumb GM and the market gets set to stupid.

Say the Kings do trade for Chychrun, won't ARZ have to take salary back to stay above the floor which is 60 mil I believe? Picks and prospects won't get them there.

 

[Steve Zissou]

Don't know anything about this 'Bruin Insider' but if the asking price from Boston is:

Jake DeBrusk or Jeremy Swayman
2023 1st round pick
2024 3rd round pick
Fabian Lysell or Mason Lohrei



I know there needs to be a starting point from both sides but there is no way in hell Chychrun is getting dealt if Armstrong is going into negotiations like this.

REPORT: Coyotes substantial asking price from Bruins for Jakob Chychrun revealed

''According to that same source, NHL trade chatter amongst pro scouts and management had the Coyotes asking for either Bruins winger Jake DeBrusk or goalie Jeremy Swayman, a 2023 first round pick, 2024 third round pick, and one of their top prospects in forward Fabian Lysell (Providence Bruins), or defenseman Mason Lohrei (Ohio State). The Bruins gave an emphatic no to DeBrusk and Swayman being involved in any trade not just for Chychrun but with any NHL team.‘'

 

[Peter James Bond II]

I really don't want to sneak into the playoffs and have Edler getting exposed, with raised playoff tempo and Durzi playing RD. Would also prefer a legit 3C. Getting both Domi and McCabe would be interesting, but costly. Would rather see Fiala/Domi/Vilardi than Lizotte. Can't believe Domi has 43 points.

Now that the Chychrun hype and rumors have quieted, I feel a deal may happen any time.
I would think Armstrong probably will be getting less, as time goes on....still probably an overpayment,
whomever gets him.

I would be okay if the Kings get him and aren't fleeced. I'm tired of this LHD hole and will be an issue in the playoffs. I would see a cost of something like #1 2023 + Kaliyev +1 of: JAD / Pinelli / Laferriere / Chromiak,+ Walker. Not that I would do it.

 

[No Name The Nameless]

^^^ I like JC but I’m not sure I’d be okay with trading AK. I also don’t want to give up Spence. Soooo, basically I don’t want to trade for him.

 

[johnjm22]

Don't know anything about this 'Bruin Insider' but if the asking price from Boston is:

Jake DeBrusk or Jeremy Swayman
2023 1st round pick
2024 3rd round pick
Fabian Lysell or Mason Lohrei

Seems about right to me.

 

[LAKings88]