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Rumor: KINGS 2018-19 Season - The Luc and Rob ****show

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Raccoon Jesus said:
I agree to an extent but here's what I posted in the Quick trade thread:

"Yeah, the spread between top and bottom is smaller than, say the spread between top and mid forwards. but when was the last real high-profile guy moved? I feel like at the deadline Quick could return some combo of high pick-decent prospect, low pick-real good/sure thing prospect, or like a 2nd-3rd-good prospect, dunno.

Looking back over some history,
Varlamov for a 1st and 2nd
Ryan Miller (and Steve Ott) went for Halak, Stewart, Carrier, 1st, 3rd
Luongo was traded for a bluechip goalie prospect, Matthias, and Anthony

Even lesser goalies like Victor Fasth got a 3rd and a 5th"

I think Quick compares pretty favorably to Ryan Miller or Luongo, and IIRC Halak and Stewart were more for replacements and cap reasons, so it was really more about Carrier the 1st and the 3rd. I don't think it would be out of line for Quick to pull a 1st and a really good prospect (a former 1st or 2nd round pick). From that thread in particular, 1st and Valimaki were "too much" to me 1st and Kylington is too small because that dude has fallen out of favor, but no one seemed to blink at 1st and Rasmus Andersson, so that might be the sweet spot for a general template. I'd love a third asset but that might be too much with Quick's age and injury risk.
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Varlamov was traded in July 2011, for a 2012 pick. Miller was traded in Feb 14, for a 2015 pick, and a 3rd in 2016. People keep talking about loading up on the 2019 picks. Is a 2020 or later 1st round pick good enough, or does it have to be this year? Luongo got traded back to a place where he had already been, and returned a young goalie, which I don't believe anyone would want see coming back to the Kings as the main piece, since the whole point is giving the job to Petersen. Fasth was traded in 2014, for a 5th in 2014, and the 3rd came in 2015. When Jones was traded by himself, it was in June 2015, for a 2016 1st rounder.

A 1st in 2020 might be doable. Have to wait that much longer for it to pay off, but since it's rebuilding time, who cares. The further away the pick is, the better an additional prospect might be too. Although we probably wouldn't be talking about the best prospect a team has. Unless maybe it was a goalie, but again, that's not what people want. Maybe you can get a conditional 2019/2020 pick. If a team missed the playoffs, they don't get the 2019 pick. If they win the Cup, they get the 2019 pick. Whatever the condition would end up being.
 
Telos said:
I don't see there being any way for TBL to acquire Dustin Brown without them sending Callahan the other way, which negates the deal...
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Not sure why it negates the deal, Callahan only has one year after this one to go on it. It's a good deal for the Kings and if Callahan plays fairly well, it's another asset to flip at the 2019-20 trade deadline.
 
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KINGS17 said:
Not sure why it negates the deal, Callahan only has one year after this one to go on it. It's a good deal for the Kings and if Callahan plays fairly well, it's another asset to flip at the 2019-20 trade deadline.
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If you can get one of their prospects back as well, like RHD Callan Foote, (or Cernak back) you take Callahan. I thought they were interested in Martinez though.
 
How pathetic is it that 2 waiver wire pickups and an undrafted rookie sparked todays win, and the “stars” are barely noticeable.
It hardly took any brain power by Blake to get Scherbak and Leipsic.
 
GoldenBearHockey said:
First ten games, I would give you that, last 10 games you're full of ****, and that could be just the piss and vinegar of the team losing, but every player out there is trying to do what the coaching staff is asking from them, in the limited time that they have out there, it's horse**** to say they aren't trying.

Now that's not to say that every night, every game, they are all giving 110% rah rah rah, thats not gonna happen, there will be off-nights, but I think the team has turned the corner at the very least on effort....it's too late for most of the them, but they have turned the corner.
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Yet when I said that the lack of talent was the reason the Kings suck you said this...

GoldenBearHockey said:
The talent is there, it's the motivation, determination and heart that seems to be missing,

There are thousands of talented players that never made the NHL due to motivation, determination and heart.
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So which is it, a couple of days ago you said they lacked heart and now you are saying they are working hard and trying.

I think you are arguing for the sake of arguing and literally contradicting yourself.
 
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Herby said:
Yet when I said that the lack of talent was the reason the Kings suck you said this...



So which is it, a couple of days ago you said they lacked heart and now you are saying they are working hard and trying.

I think you are arguing for the sake of arguing and literally contradicting yourself.
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You should really quote everything that is said. I also said not every game will they have 110%. Also I said he was right the first 10-15 games it wasnt there, they lacked motivation and heart. I think they turned that corner a few games ago and are showing up for each game
 
Who do the Kings recall now with Clifford out?

Also, curious to see how the team will look healthy...

Iafallo-Kopitar-Brown
Kovalchuk-Carter-Toffoli
Hagelin-Kempe-Scherbak
Clifford-Thompson-Lewis
Extra: Leipsic
 
Why? He is the closest player to Clifford in the organization. Kings are going on the road against some tough teams.

Everyone used to think guys like Nolan and King couldn’t make the team. Some players game translates better to the NHL. Who knows, maybe Boko looks decent as an NHL 4th liner, tons of character and would be a fan favorite.
 
Leipsic-Kopitar-Brown
Kovy-Carter-Scherbak
Hagelin-Kempe-Toffoli
Iaffalo-Thompson-Lewis

The lineup I wanna see when healthy. Leipsic will bring what Iaffalo does speed and hunger and retrieve pucks. He will bring energy to that line . Kovy and Scherbak with Carter can be good . Idols. Kempe and Toffoli have chemistry I say keep them together . 4th line will not be a liability so definitely a plus.
 
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