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Someone on this Kings board said we'll finish somewhere between 1st-30th to start the season.

God dammit now we're 31st. Whoever said that ban them.
 
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BigKing said:
So continuing to ride a bunch of old dudes--in NHL terms--isn't going to work?

It's like this team hasn't had two major injuries to core players in each of the last two seasons. While Carter's was flukey, it appears to have had long-term ramifications on his skating ability so it is the gift that keeps on giving.

What you got to do is add a 35 year old on top of it for three more seasons.

The "assets" this team has continue to depreciate every season. With such a weak pipeline, it is going to be disastrous to continue pretending they are a contender while not getting as much value as possible.

I've got seats to every home game of this mess and I want more than anything for them to sell off and put out a horrible product. Much more fun watching the Crawford Kings than this trash.
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I'll buy every share you have for $0.10 on the dollar!
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From a few weeks ago: Goaltender Steve Mason may retire after 10 NHL seasons - Sportsnet.ca

Goaltender Steve Mason might be ready to hang up his skates, Sportsnet’s Chris Johnston reported on Saturday Headlines.

“He had a ton of injuries last season, he had concussion and knee issues, he’s been through a lot in his career, and the sense is he may actually be done in the NHL,” Johnston said.

Mason, 30, recently turned down a contract offer from an NHL team looking for a backup, according to Johnston.
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If true, Mason might not be physically or mentally ready to play.

Waiver claim (or late conditional draft pick) for McElhinney/Pickard wouldn't be the worst thing in the world. As much as fans might want the team to tank, there will still be some proud veterans who will be trying to win.
 
Did it seem like in the past the Kings often played on Halloween, and usually they'd be on the road come late October? I seem to recall them usually doing so, and here's one of those memorable games.

 
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Ziggy Stardust said:
Think rushing Quick back after his initial injury was a bad idea?
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A doesn't necessarily lead to B. If they didn't rush him back, if they even did, he still could've ended up having surgery. Missed a bunch of time a couple years ago. Missed some time back in the first half of 13-14. Apparently would've missed time had there been no lockout after 11-12. Injuries aren't new for the guy.
 
KingsFan7824 said:
A doesn't necessarily lead to B. If they didn't rush him back, if they even did, he still could've ended up having surgery. Missed a bunch of time a couple years ago. Missed some time back in the first half of 13-14. Apparently would've missed time had there been no lockout after 11-12. Injuries aren't new for the guy.
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They aren't new, but they don't plague him either. And the 12-13 season yeah, he likely would have missed the first few weeks? Due to that wrist injury he suffered in the playoffs on his stick hand I think.
 
That's the thing, people act like Quick has recurring injuries, they're almost all different. Back issue requiring surgery after 2012. Groin injury. Wrist surgery. I know the groin has happened mildly 2-3 times, but the knee is new. We can speculate if it was a compensation injury or something, but he just plays such an explosive style...yet he played 72 games a couple of years ago followed by 68 and even with the short term injury last year he played 64. He's 9th in active games played at 560--carey price has played 566, and any goalie ahead of them was drafted much earlier. Since 2012 he's played 380--only goalies with more are Rinne at 395 and Lundqvist at 409. Add 73 playoff games and international appearances, and the guy has hardly had time for training/conditioning between injuries, too. Only goalie who has played more hockey and it's marginal counting all of that is Lundqvist. All of the goalies nearby have dealt with their own significant injuries as well, so marking down Quick's contract as problematic due to injury means you have to do the same for any of his peers that have played any significant length of time at a high level.
 
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Raccoon Jesus said:
That's the thing, people act like Quick has recurring injuries, they're almost all different. Back issue requiring surgery after 2012. Groin injury. Wrist surgery. I know the groin has happened mildly 2-3 times, but the knee is new. We can speculate if it was a compensation injury or something, but he just plays such an explosive style...yet he played 72 games a couple of years ago followed by 68 and even with the short term injury last year he played 64. He's 9th in active games played at 560--carey price has played 566, and any goalie ahead of them was drafted much earlier. Since 2012 he's played 380--only goalies with more are Rinne at 395 and Lundqvist at 409. Add 73 playoff games and international appearances, and the guy has hardly had time for training/conditioning between injuries, too. Only goalie who has played more hockey and it's marginal counting all of that is Lundqvist. All of the goalies nearby have dealt with their own significant injuries as well, so marking down Quick's contract as problematic due to injury means you have to do the same for any of his peers that have played any significant length of time at a high level.
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I agree he’s in the same boat as many others, but it’s time to preserve him a bit more. Fewer games. He will be sharper. He will get used to it. In the long run he has to be willing to accept this a little more. He could still be our playoff goalie but possibly play only half the regular season games. Maybe not even play all the playoff games if the Kings can go a long little deeper, but that depends?! I like teams that when they reach this point with their goalie situation, they ride the hot hand.
 
Id love to see a retool on the fly, so Im completely ok with running Campbell and Budaj out there, regardless of how big of a tire fire they are.

I would also advocate for some movement to shake up the team and get rid of the complacency that we have become. I dont want all futures, nor just merely prospects but instead would prefer younger NHL players since our pipeline isnt booming. Carter, Pearson, Muzzin, Martinez Id actively shop. I think there are active markets for all where a combination of picks and NHL ready prospects coming back are quite possible. Clifford, Thompson, Phaneuf are all less desirables that if they could be moved, should be moved at this point. Any thoughts on reasonable landing spots and expectations on what we could arguably get back for each?

Also, am I the only Kings fan not opposed to trading Villardi should the opportunity present itself to make a deal that better positions us over the next couple seasons? The back injuries are concerning, regardless of his elite talent.
 
efhank said:
I agree he’s in the same boat as many others, but it’s time to preserve him a bit more. Fewer games. He will be sharper. He will get used to it. In the long run he has to be willing to accept this a little more. He could still be our playoff goalie but possibly play only half the regular season games. Maybe not even play all the playoff games if the Kings can go a long little deeper, but that depends?! I like teams that when they reach this point with their goalie situation, they ride the hot hand.
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Quick’s injuries don’t seem workload related though. The most recent ones happened early, or at practice. We don’t know how hard he pushes himself in the gym, so that could be it as well. A few years back he injured his groin at the end of the 1st period against the Sharks.

You also don’t have to worry about resting Quick for a lengthy playoff run.
 
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