Rumor: KINGS 2018-19 Season- Luc/Rob ****Show/ Sell Everyone!! Part 3

[Dazed and Confused]

Do you think Kovalchuk is bad or something?

Because he's not. He's actually one of our most skilled players. We don't plan on trading him for a 3rd/4th line grinder.

Ehh I saw the Spooner/Kassian/Manning proposal not getting laughed out of the building, plus the news he was available, and was curious.

 

[KingsHockey24]

Ehh I saw the Spooner/Kassian/Manning proposal not getting laughed out of the building, plus the news he was available, and was curious.

Most of these rumors insiders just pull out of there asses only to have completely different players moved that no one talked about.

 

[Dazed and Confused]

I liked him in LA, but that contract is one of the worst in NHL history. He should of stayed in LA honestly. He wasn’t a bad fit and he still has friends on the team. Glad he didn’t now tho.

Ehh bad yes, but I don’t think you can say one of the worst in history. It was par for the course that summer... Lucic, Ladd, Eriksson, Backes, Okposo...

@3 to 4 mil and purely thought of as a middle 6’er, Lucic would be fine. But yeah, you guys definitely dodged a bullet

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

oooo Dion sounds pissed, and I like it. Maybe he'll be angry today.

That was passive-aggressive office email interview responses.

 

[LAKings88]

oooo Dion sounds pissed, and I like it. Maybe he'll be angry today.

That was passive-aggressive office email interview responses.

Request a trade Dion or retire.

 

[KingsFan7824]

Ehh I saw the Spooner/Kassian/Manning proposal not getting laughed out of the building, plus the news he was available, and was curious.

That offer would make sense. Kovalchuk isn't some sort of asset that the Kings will get something for, so 3 expiring contracts next year would be great. Sign me up. Lucic makes no sense, because of the 2 extra years. The Kings are better off buying Kovalchuk out in June, if they absolutely have to get rid of him, even having to keep the full cap hit, than getting Lucic.

 

[KingsOfCali25]

That offer would make sense. Kovalchuk isn't some sort of asset that the Kings will get something for, so 3 expiring contracts next year would be great. Sign me up. Lucic makes no sense, because of the 2 extra years. The Kings are better off buying Kovalchuk out in June, if they absolutely have to get rid of him, even having to keep the full cap hit, than getting Lucic.

That trade makes NO sense just as much as the Lucic one!

Basically, you're keeping the same amount of cap hit in three lesser players over 1 better player. And all the team would get would be a 2nd and a year off Kovalchuk's contract. That's not enough. It's also taking up 2 extra spots in the lineup that could be used for younger players. It's a terrible trade for LA.

 

[KingsFan7824]

That trade makes NO sense just as much as the Lucic one!

Basically, you're keeping the same amount of cap hit in three lesser players over 1 better player. And all the team would get would be a 2nd and a year off Kovalchuk's contract. That's not enough. It's also taking up 2 extra spots in the lineup that could be used for younger players. It's a terrible trade for LA.

What are you expecting to get for a 35+ contract with a NMC and 2 years left on it at $6.25m? Anything positive is enough. There won't be a 1st coming back. Nobody is taking 100% of that contract for nothing. Not getting a top prospect. If you can get out of that 3rd year by just having to deal with 3 extra contracts next year, that's about as good as it's going to get. You can send those 3 guys down to Ontario, trade them for 7th rd picks, buy them out, etc, plus get out of the 3rd year for Kovalchuck. That's assuming he even wants to go to Edmonton.

Either way, Kovalchuk isn't a valuable asset. Even retaining 50%, you're not going to bring back someone with any actual potential.

 

[KingsOfCali25]

What are you expecting to get for a 35+ contract with a NMC and 2 years left on it at $6.25m? Anything positive is enough. There won't be a 1st coming back. Nobody is taking 100% of that contract for nothing. Not getting a top prospect. If you can get out of that 3rd year by just having to deal with 3 extra contracts next year, that's about as good as it's going to get. You can send those 3 guys down to Ontario, trade them for 7th rd picks, buy them out, etc, plus get out of the 3rd year for Kovalchuck. That's assuming he even wants to go to Edmonton.

Either way, Kovalchuk isn't a valuable asset. Even retaining 50%, you're not going to bring back someone with any actual potential.

I don't see LA moving Kovalchuk at all (until next seasons TDL). You can't trade those guys for late picks because if you could Edmonton would have already. Sending them down to Ontario still blocks spots for guys you want/need playing. They are horrible players (less so Kassian)!

I'd rather retain 10-20% on Kovy and pick up a 3rd + prospect over these cap dump guys.

It's a horrible trade for the future of the Kings.

P.s. Kovy is really helping Kempe and his game (mentally and physically). Which I'd rather have than 3 useless players

 

[KingsFan7824]

I don't see LA moving Kovalchuk at all (until next seasons TDL). You can't trade those guys for late picks because if you could Edmonton would have already. Sending them down to Ontario still blocks spots for guys you want/need playing. They are horrible players (less so Kassian)!

I'd rather retain 10-20% on Kovy and pick up a 3rd + prospect over these cap dump guys.

It's a horrible trade for the future of the Kings.

P.s. Kovy is really helping Kempe and his game (mentally and physically). Which I'd rather have than 3 useless players

Yeah, I don't think they'll trade him either. Mostly because they probably can't. He has to want to go to wherever to play. Kovalchuk will be another year older next year. They're never going to actually get something for him. They're not getting a 3rd and a prospect. I'd be astonished if they did. If he was still productive in his UFA year, they might be able to squeeze out a draft pick for him. He'll be that much older, and that much more likely to be unproductive though. Very unlikely they come out ahead of any Kovalchuk trade.

 

[KingsOfCali25]

Yeah, I don't think they'll trade him either. Mostly because they probably can't. He has to want to go to wherever to play. Kovalchuk will be another year older next year. They're never going to actually get something for him. They're not getting a 3rd and a prospect. I'd be astonished if they did. If he was still productive in his UFA year, they might be able to squeeze out a draft pick for him. He'll be that much older, and that much more likely to be unproductive though. Very unlikely they come out ahead of any Kovalchuk trade.

I think you are wrong on what they could get for Kovalchuk but to each their own.

 

[Cook24]

Kings with 2 scouts(laird and Greene) at the stars/coyotes game.

 

[crassbonanza]

I don't trade Kovalchuk unless he asks to leave. He has been the biggest leader on this Kings squad and I think him being in the lockerroom will pay dividends for the youth infusion.

 

[kovacro]

HNIC Headliners tonight, per Nick Kypreos mentioned the Kings could potentially eat 20%-25% of the Kovalchuk contract. They have not yet approached him about his NMC (submitting a 7-team list of potential trade destinations) but if they do, it should not be an issue.

 

[dillyboy93]

Do any of you see anything coming from the caps-kings scouting each other so much? I had seen that the capitals were interested in Toffoli but I’m not sure how likely they are to pull that off

 

[HeadInjury]

The teams play each other twice in the next 10 days. May be nothing more than that.

 

[dillyboy93]

The teams play each other twice in the next 10 days. May be nothing more than that.

I had just figured it could be more cause that seems like a lot of scouting for just a couple games, Bernstein had mentioned it earlier and TFP had the capitals interested in Toffoli. Figured I’d ask

 

[HeadInjury]

I really don't think Toffoli is available.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

Hagelin or Thompson to the Capitals makes a lot of sense given the rumors out there concerning the Caps' desire to bolster their bottom six.

Burakovsky is said to be on the move and he might be worth a look as well.

 

[kingsfan28]

Hagelin or Thompson to the Capitals makes a lot of sense given the rumors out there concerning the Caps' desire to bolster their bottom six.

Burakovsky is said to be on the move and he might be worth a look as well.

These are really the only move I'd see them making at the deadline. No need to do anything else until the draft if they decide to move more. But you know the blogger bro's are gonna be pissed they didn't trade Quick for a 3rd and a 2nd in 2021.

 

[deaderhead28]

These are really the only move I'd see them making at the deadline. No need to do anything else until the draft if they decide to move more. But you know the blogger bro's are gonna be pissed they didn't trade Quick for a 3rd and a 2nd in 2021.

Kinda like some on here

 

[Sol]

The amount of people talking down Kovalchuks play is infuriating. He's been really good. This is grounds for execution imo.

 

[Reaper45]

The amount of people talking down Kovalchuks play is infuriating. He's been really good. This is grounds for execution imo.

People talk without actually watching. It's all just stats and blah blah.

 

[SettlementRichie10]

No matter how good Kovalchuk is playing, he’s still a 35 year old on a three year deal.

If he replicates his season next year, I can see some suitors at the deadline of 2020.

As of right now, he’s much more valuable to the Kings than anyone else.

 

[KingsFan7824]

I really don't think Toffoli is available.

I'd say he's available, they would just be selling low if they trade him. Outside of this recent stretch of games.