Confirmed with Link: Keith Jones actually set to be named real life part-time President of Hockey Operations, Danny Briere full-time GM

[ponder719]

Get ready to be told what Torts REALLY meant in that it'll lead to players not capable of pulling off that move trying it and turning the puck over.

It's amazing how someone can be so inside of the inner workings of another person's brain.

When someone's lodged halfway up another's rectum, they're closer to that person's brain than anyone else can possibly be.

 

[Hanover Fist]

Oh my first it’s they are two years away. Two years later they are now three years away.

 

[Kelmitchell2]

Excuse me, did you watch the Flyers last season?
Maybe they should focus on mastering the basics before they spend time trying to perfect trick plays.

How many times a season will a goal be scored with a pass over the net? Once? Twice?
How many times a season will a goal be scored b/c the pass is on the blade in shooting position instead of a foot or two off or late and deflected.

Until my team can master the basics, I don't want them getting cute.
Learning how to make good entry and exit passes is a far more valuable skill than the "Michigan."

You're missing the point entirely deady, yes it's not something that's an everyday thing, but none of the flyers could even pull it off if they've tried, they don't have the skill to do so, that's what I'm telling you, and unfortunately I watch 74 of the 82 games last year, because I'm a glutton for punishment, I agree they need to be fundamentally sound, but they also can't be punished for trying to make something happen, which has happened

 

[BrindamoursNose]

You just read the things Jones said this morning and you think he's better?

Hell, they might have been better off not changing anything than bringing this f***ing clown into the mix

Yes - I do think he’s better. I didn’t say he’s good - I just said I think Briere and Jones will be better than Fletch and Holmgren. That’s not a high bar to clear though.

 

[Danko]

WIP Callers: First Time, Long Time. Where is Kate Smith, Bring Back the Bullies, How are we going to get better in the shootout, we need a fighter.

Jonesy: YAAAAS QUEEEN

 

[Rebels57]

Yes - I do think he’s better. I didn’t say he’s good - I just said I think Briere and Jones will be better than Fletch and Holmgren. That’s not a high bar to clear though.

Jones brings one thing to the table: Lies

Briere might be better than Fletcher though. Shouldn't be hard.

 

[deadhead]

Canceling Kate Smith was silly.

 

[Danko]

The "Michigan" isn't skill, it's a trick play.

Skill plays are the ones you make all the time, pin point passes onto a teammate's blade, setting up a D-man as a screen for a wrist shot, etc.

Go try and do the Michigan, i'll wait. Do you play hockey?

 

[deadhead]

Who's that Sixer player who won the dunk contest? That's skill. He's still a marginal NBA player.
Point is "trick" plays are cute, but the focus on a rebuilding team should be fundamentals and basic skills.

 

[Redpath]

Jones brings one thing to the table: Lies

Briere might be better than Fletcher though. Shouldn't be hard.

The one acceptable things about Jones' hiring: PR is his only responsibility, so he's not going to be having any serious impact on actual moves.

 

[deadhead]

People should stop and ask themselves what kind of player Briere was.
You think he has a problem with undersized skill players?

 

[Danko]

Who's that Sixer player who won the dunk contest? That's skill. He's still a marginal NBA player.
Point is "trick" plays are cute, but the focus on a rebuilding team should be fundamentals and basic skills.

You are wrong. You have never played hockey, nor do you have any sense of what skill is.

 

[Curufinwe]

People should stop and ask themselves what kind of player Briere was.
You think he has a problem with undersized skill players?

You don't even know what "skill" means.

Go back to bed, grandad.

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

Who's that Sixer player who won the dunk contest? That's skill. He's still a marginal NBA player.
Point is "trick" plays are cute, but the focus on a rebuilding team should be fundamentals and basic skills.

The point is that John Tortorella despises it and thinks that it's bad for the game.

THAT is the point.

You should probably take him at his word instead of going through mental gymnastics to to try and come up with a way where he doesn't look like a dinosaur.

 

[Flyerfan4life]

WIP Callers: First Time, Long Time. Where is Kate Smith, Bring Back the Bullies, How are we going to get better in the shootout, we need a fighter.

Jonesy: YAAAAS QUEEEN

#NEVEReverchange

 

[Curufinwe]

The one acceptable things about Jones' hiring: PR is his only responsibility, so he's not going to be having any serious impact on actual moves.

I hope that's true. Maybe he'll be content with getting used towels to take home from the locker room stalls of Risto and Nic D.

 

[Danko]

I'll just say(not trying to compare my beer league to that of an nhl level talent), I have been playing hockey for 30 years, i currently play with some extremely SKILLED, talented college players and have yet to see one of them successfully pull off a Michigan in game.

I haven't even seen anyone do it in a practice situation....yet alone in a game going at high speed.

i cant even figure out how you would begin it.

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

I'll just say(not trying to compare my beer league to that of an nhl level talent), I have been playing hockey for 30 years, i currently play with some extremely SKILLED, talented college players and have yet to see one of them successfully pull off a Michigan in game.

I haven't even seen anyone do it in a practice situation....yet alone in a game going at high speed.

i cant even figure out how you would begin it.

That's why they're in beer league. They probably can't even make a tape to tape pass. Now THAT is skill.

*fartnoise.mp3*

 

[Rebels57]

The one acceptable things about Jones' hiring: PR is his only responsibility, so he's not going to be having any serious impact on actual moves.

That's the plan now, but we'll see. Supposedly he has the power to fire Briere, so what happens if Briere starts building a team that isn't to Jones liking? It's a f***ing weird structure.

 

[Rich Nixon]

The one I'll comment on here is Carter Hart.

Normally, I'd agree with you that they should trade Carter Hart because why have a great goalie without a good team?

Well, I agree, BUT goalies can last a long time and he'll likely be good when we are finally good in 5 years or whatever.

Also, goalies aren't worthy anything in a trade, so I'd rather have Carter Hart than a 2nd round pick. That's really what it comes down to for me.

If that's all you can get, of course. But if we're talking about a mid 1st or a good prospect and a lower pick? I go for that. We have no idea what prices are for goalies right now, though.

But goaltending is overrated and guarantees you nothing. Hart is of no use to them right now, and even if he's the next Price, or Luongo, or Lundqvist....I'd rather have the next Niemi if the team around him is good enough to win a Cup.

 

[ponder719]

Who's that Sixer player who won the dunk contest?

Mac McClung.

 

[Danko]

They probably can't even make a tape to tape pass. Now THAT is skill.

The true measurement of skill. Youtube comments have confirmed this.

 

[deadhead]

The point is that John Tortorella despises it and thinks that it's bad for the game.

THAT is the point.

You should probably take him at his word instead of going through mental gymnastics to to try and come up with a way where he doesn't look like a dinosaur.

Despises what? A trick play?

Does he despise a perfect pass threaded through defenders? A quick release and shot into the upper corner of the net? A player on a 2 on 1 getting the defender to commit with a deke to open up a passing lane and them a pass on the blade?

Basic skills aren't sexy, but if you can master them, you can be more creative b/c you don't have to think, you can just react.

For the top offensive players it's instinctive, but you can give them a strong base of fundamentals on top of which they let their creative juices flow.
But you can't teach how to make an impromptu play, reacting to what's happening around you on the ice. That's an innate quality.

Most players just aren't that gifted, they don't have the vision, eye to hand coordination, hands, body control, etc. to pull off more than the basic repertoire of plays. Which is why they need to grind out goals. What may have worked in college or the AHL isn't going to fly with the smaller windows and faster pace of the NHL, which is why they shouldn't try to get too cute.

Marody is a perfect example of a skill player without enough skill - dominated college and the AHL regular season, struggled in the AHL playoffs and flopped at the NHL level.

 

[BigToe]

Who's that Sixer player who won the dunk contest? That's skill. He's still a marginal NBA player.
Point is "trick" plays are cute, but the focus on a rebuilding team should be fundamentals and basic skills.

Comparing dunk contest dunks to the Michigan might be one of your worst takes, my boy.

 

[Curufinwe]

Gather round kids, the old man who wanted MacEwen playing above Frost in the lineup is going to explain to us what hockey skill is.