Prospect Info: Kaiden Guhle II

[Legend123]

I'm hoping for a big game with maybe more offensive pressure and at least ,17-18 minutes of play. Let's go Guhle!

 

[Habs Halifax]

I'm hoping for a big game with maybe more offensive pressure and at least ,17-18 minutes of play. Let's go Guhle!

I have no doubt that they are coaching Guhle to play safe first. Remember, he is 18 and how did Byram look last year at age 18? Not saying Guhle bust out like Byram when he is 19 next year but this is all about grooming players and Guhle playing a top 4D role at age 18 is impressive. I say he needs to keep doing what he has been doing and work on more offensive output once the WHL gets going again.

I've seen someone say we should have drafted Schneider instead. He's 19 people and was not good enough to make team Canada at age 18. Only 5 months in age difference but it is what it is. This is Schneider's age 19 season and Guhle's age 18 season.

 

[Legend123]

I have no doubt that they are coaching Guhle to play safe first. Remember, he is 18 and how did Byram look last year at age 18? Not saying Guhle bust out like Byram when he is 19 next year but this is all about grooming players and Guhle playing a top 4D role at age 18 is impressive. I say he needs to keep doing what he has been doing and work on more offensive output once the WHL gets going again.

I've seen someone say we should have drafted Schneider instead. He's 19 people and was not good enough to make team Canada at age 18. Only 5 months in age difference but it is what it is. This is Schneider's age 19 season and Guhle's age 18 season.

Im very happy with the guhle selection. Losing out on a top 10 pick still hurts but guhle is giving me hope for this seemingly weak mid first round. He looks very good out there, in fact a beast defensively. Lets see that offense flourish now.

 

[Habs Halifax]

Im very happy with the guhle selection. Losing out on a top 10 pick still hurts but guhle is giving me hope for this seemingly weak mid first round. He looks very good out there, in fact a beast defensively. Lets see that offense flourish now.

Yup! Guhle was a good pick at 16... even if we are loaded at LD already. I like what I see so far and how much offense he provides is secondary with me. Ability to play shut down role is 1st focus. I'm curious to see what Guhle can do in the WHL at age 18 and 19. 1st OA WHL pick from a few years ago so he's been on the radar for a while now. Even Byram didn't show too much offense last year at 18 (WJC).

 

[Legend123]

Yup! Guhle was a good pick at 16... even if we are loaded at LD already. I like what I see so far and how much offense he provides is secondary with me. Ability to play shut down role is 1st focus. I'm curious to see what Guhle can do in the WHL at age 18 and 19. 1st OA WHL pick from a few years ago so he's been on the radar for a while now. Even Byram didn't show too much offense last year at 18 (WJC).

And he's got a howitzer out there and strong wrister. Its just a matter of combining his mobility to his shot arsenal. Once figured out, look out!

 

[Habs Halifax]

And he's got a howitzer out there and strong wrister. Its just a matter of combining his mobility to his shot arsenal. Once figured out, look out!

He has everything you look for in a complete D man. Building his development from defense 1st to chipping in on offense as he gains confidence is good development. Romanov's KHL team groomed him that way and I support that approach. Last thing we need is spoiled kids roaming around putting up offense and weak on D.

Guhle has joined the rush a lot from what I have seen so more offensive ability as he matures is not out of the question. Look at how long it took Hedman to figure out the offensive side of things. I like the Guhle pick more and more. It's up to him to work hard at his game and he don't lack confidence from what I can see

 

[Legend123]

He has everything you look for in a complete D man. Building his development from defense 1st to chipping in on offense as he gains confidence is good development. Romanov's KHL team groomed him that way and I support that approach. Last thing we need is spoiled kids roaming around putting up offense and weak on D.

Guhle has joined the rush a lot from what I have seen so more offensive ability as he matures is not out of the question. Look at how long it took Hedman to figure out the offensive side of things. I like the Guhle pick more and more. It's up to him to work hard at his game and he don't lack confidence from what I can see

I also like his iq esp impressive given his age

 

[LaP]

It could be argued Fisher, Tinordi & McCarron were not BPA at their respective draft positions even in the eyes of the org, but rather best available prospects according to the org, to address a specifically identified positional deficiency.

Yeah but Fischer was still not the BPA at his position. The BPA players at his position drafted not too long after were no other than Jeff Petry and Keith Seabrook which both would have been perfectly fine 20th overall pick. My point is mostly that it doesn't matter as much as some people think how you draft if you don't have the right drafting team it wont work and if you got the right drafting team it will certainly work better.

The Habs seem to be most successful at the draft table (at least 1st round) when they pick who they consider to be the best talent available at their given draft position. It’s yielded Price, McDonagh, Pacioretty, Sergachev, the org unnecessarily seems to get itself into trouble when they try to address a specific position.

It could be argued the CH has success drafting dmen. Yeah it's not perfect you pointed out two mistakes above but our drafting team had good success drafting dmen. Forwards though it's another story. I think our problem is not how we draft but how we evaluate young forwards and how we develop them.

There's definitely without any doubt a strong focus on defense, work ethic, character, attitude and leadership in the top management of the team and this reverberates thru the inferior levels of the team's management including the coaching team and drafting team. Those qualities all work better with dmen than forwards. Don't get me wrong they are still great qualities for forwards but a stronger focus on pure offensive skills should be there.

When it comes the time to draft or acquire via trade pure offensive skills it looks like our management just can't evaluate the players properly.

 

[Dominator13]

Yup! Guhle was a good pick at 16... even if we are loaded at LD already. I like what I see so far and how much offense he provides is secondary with me. Ability to play shut down role is 1st focus. I'm curious to see what Guhle can do in the WHL at age 18 and 19. 1st OA WHL pick from a few years ago so he's been on the radar for a while now. Even Byram didn't show too much offense last year at 18 (WJC).

Anyways, as much as we wanted it to be, we aren't loaded at the Left-handed spot on D. We have a bunch of 2nd and 3rd rounders that have promise, but also a high bust risk attached to them. Guhle is a much safer prospect than Norlinder, Struble and Harris are.

 

[Darz]

Yeah but Fischer was still not the BPA at his position. The BPA players at his position drafted not too long after were no other than Jeff Petry and Keith Seabrook which both would have been perfectly fine 20th overall pick. My point is mostly that it doesn't matter as much as some people think how you draft if you don't have the right drafting team it wont work and if you got the right drafting team it will certainly work better..

...not to nitpick, but Keith Seabrook was drafted in 2003, Fischer was drafted in 2006.

 

[LaP]

...not to nitpick, but Keith Seabrook was drafted in 2003, Fischer was drafted in 2006.

You are not nitpicking. I made a mistake and you pointed it out and it was the right thing to do. A dman named Seabrook was drafted in 2003 in the 2nd round. Seabrook is such a rare family name that i stupidly without checking assumed it was Brent Seabrook and copy pasted.

Now i'll nitpick Keith Seabrook was really drafted in 2006 But it's not Brent Seabrook so he's not any better than the one we drafted. Jeff Petry is though.

 

[Stive Morgan]

Guhle's gonna be the guy who stands out against tougher competition instead of standing out by lighting up inferior teams like Germany and Switzerland like other players have so far

I'd rather say "wow Guhle totally shut down Zegras Boldy and Caufield and then clapped one past Knight/Wolf" than "wow my guy got 6 points against Austria!"

He's doing exactly as I expected of him. He's been rock solid on both ends. Making great decisions with the puck.

 

[Vachon23]

 

[Goldenhands]

This kid is a physical beast, gives no time and space to his oppoenents, solid positionally and rarely makes a mistake, he is as steady and solid defensively as you can get, he will fit in nicely in our group of young talended defensemen...

 

[montreal]

 

[Tyson]

Damn this kid is solid.

 

[Riddum]

Same reason people saying KK is a bust and we should've drafted Tkachuk after 5 pointless games in the Liiga; Because many people don't watch games and just check the stats. Don't take these thoughts seriously, Guhle is to Tinordi what Byron is to Anderson.

Tkachuk is a better talent than KK though. We went for the highest rated center possible instead of the highest rated prospect available. Need over best. Plain and simple

 

[Sam of Montreal]

Tkachuk is a better talent than KK though. We went for the highest rated center possible instead of the highest rated prospect available. Need over best. Plain and simple

Easy for you to say at this point in time. At draft time, it was a very unpopular opinion that Tkachuk was the best. In fact, most were praying for the Habs to NOT draft Tkachuk.

I think Tkachuk would have been great in Montreal, but Kotka may be great as well. And if both are great, the center will be the most valuable one. Time will tell.

 

[Hins77]

I watched Guhle in last few games. I really like his game. Most of the time, thats subtil things, but it shows a lot. His gap between him and the opponent is always perfect. Most of the time, these opponent will try to beat him by speed. The problem, guhle is quick too. He uses his sticks really well. He reAch/touch easilly the puck on opponent stick’s, so kill the play fastly. He looks a little thin for his frame, i think we should see him at 220 lbs in his prime years. So his checking will be more efficient. Really nice pick after all

 

[JuJu Mobb]

I like how he laterally moves to set up his shot. He's quite mobile.

 

[tnq]

In a normal year, Guhle can be easily top 10 even higher.

 

[Habs Halifax]

Anyways, as much as we wanted it to be, we aren't loaded at the Left-handed spot on D. We have a bunch of 2nd and 3rd rounders that have promise, but also a high bust risk attached to them. Guhle is a much safer prospect than Norlinder, Struble and Harris are.

We are loaded at LD and yes, some will bust. But all 4 guys you mentioned are WJC type talent. Anytime you draft talent like that (especially in the 2nd and 3rd round) you are doing well. However, I do agree that Guhle is ahead of the other 3.

 

[Pompeius Magnus]

He's really proactive, you can see it in several of those sequences. He's never passive, always working at blocking a passing lane or getting in better position . If he makes a mistake he's immediately trying to come back into the play to fix it. I like a Dman with a lot of energy like that.

 

[Habs Halifax]

Tkachuk is a better talent than KK though. We went for the highest rated center possible instead of the highest rated prospect available. Need over best. Plain and simple

I'd wait to make that claim. Remember, Kotkaniemi was drafted as a long term center and we knew Tkachuk was more NHL ready on draft day. It's foolish to pretend today that there was a legit BPA at 3rd after Svechnikov. There was a waive of talent. Plain and simple

Habs went after KK just like...
* Blue Jackets with PLD
* Coyotes with Hayton
* Sens with Sanderson
* Wings with Seider

 

[Deebs]