Kadri

[The Kingslayer]

Leaf fans thought so too, and then he had the worst season in Toronto playing 3C. Sounds like a good idea but doesn't work. Needs the spotlight or he disappears.

COL would be wise to recapture assets this summer before he's a UFA.

This seems to be the case. Bednar took him off PP1 and he scored 2 goals or something crazy the rest of the season. Its all about Nazem.

 

[The Abusement Park]

This seems to be the case. Bednar took him off PP1 and he scored 2 goals or something crazy the rest of the season. Its all about Nazem.

To be fair he also looked like dogshit before he got taken on PP1.

 

[The Kingslayer]

To be fair he also looked like dogshit before he got taken on PP1.

Oh yah. He earned his way off that unit. He just sucked even more after.

 

[Foppa2118]

Yeah you have to bump him 3C. No chance you can go into next years playoffs with a guaranteed 10 games suspension as your 2C.

I can understand the desire to do this, and maybe I'm being naive, but Kadri basically went two years without doing something stupid, and then had one shift where he got too reckless and mistimed a big hit.

I don't think there's a high chance that he does that again next year. He'll be looking to prove he's not a liability in that area even more so now after he left Toronto, because he did it again, and he won't want another situation like that affecting his next deal in UFA.

For whatever it's worth, Kadri went through a couple rounds in the the 2020 playoffs without an issue like this, and put up 9 goals and 18 points in 15 games. If they can get something like that again, it would be a huge benefit.

 

[The Abusement Park]

I can understand the desire to do this, and maybe I'm being naive, but Kadri basically went two years without doing something stupid, and then had one shift where he got too reckless and mistimed a big hit.

I don't think there's a high chance that he does that again next year. He'll be looking to prove he's not a liability in that area even more so now after he left Toronto, because he did it again, and he won't want another situation like that affecting his next deal in UFA.

For whatever it's worth, Kadri went through a couple rounds in the the 2020 playoffs without an issue like this, and put up 9 goals and 18 points in 15 games. If they can get something like that again, it would be a huge benefit.

I mean in his Chiclets interview he said, “you didn’t think I was gonna do it a 3rd time did ya?” Well he did. And that’s 3 suspensions in his last 4 playoffs that have played a major part in ending his teams seasons. Any questionable hit he makes next season will end up in at least a 6/7 game suspension maybe even 10. You can’t have that guy be your 2nd line C. Especially after the season he just had. The Avs HAVE to improve the C depth this year and I assume Kadri will be back next year so the most logical thing to do is upgrade at 2C and bump him to 3C.

 

[Foppa2118]

I mean in his Chiclets interview he said, “you didn’t think I was gonna do it a 3rd time did ya?” Well he did. And that’s 3 suspensions in his last 4 playoffs that have played a major part in ending his teams seasons. Any questionable hit he makes next season will end up in at least a 6/7 game suspension maybe even 10. You can’t have that guy be your 2nd line C. Especially after the season he just had. The Avs HAVE to improve the C depth this year and I assume Kadri will be back next year so the most logical thing to do is upgrade at 2C and bump him to 3C.

I just think it's going to be really hard to improve both the 2C and Top 4D roles. Both cap wise and possibly asset wise.

And the bigger priority should be adding a defenseman IMO, because that's what cost them games in the playoffs.

They kind of have to choose between whether to roll the dice on Kadri not getting himself suspended, or roll the dice on EJ not getting injured so Graves/Nemeth don't have to play the role he wold be playing normally.

I'm a huge EJ fan obviously, but I think it's a bigger risk to roll the dice on him staying healthy because that usually takes him out of the lineup for a lot more games than a suspension would for Kadri.

I think Newhook might be a better fallback C than Graves is a fallback D too.

 

[The Abusement Park]

I just think it's going to be really hard to improve both the 2C and Top 4D roles. Both cap wise and possibly asset wise.

And the bigger priority should be adding a defenseman IMO, because that's what cost them games in the playoffs.

They kind of have to choose between whether to roll the dice on Kadri not getting himself suspended, or roll the dice on EJ not getting injured so Graves/Nemeth don't have to play the role he wold be playing normally.

I'm a huge EJ fan obviously, but I think it's a bigger risk to roll the dice on him staying healthy because that usually takes him out of the lineup for a lot more games than a suspension would for Kadri.

I think Newhook might be a better fallback C than Graves is a fallback D too.

I'd rather go C personally. It's a been a problem and is still a huge problem. Our top 4 dmen are fine, they just need to find someone to play on the bottom pairing who isn't a consistent train wreck like Nemeth. Adding a C would help take a with the defensive responsibility and C depth is a consistent trend of teams that win the cup and go far and ours lacks pretty significantly behind every team left outside Vegas if Kadri is included.

 

[Foppa2118]

I'd rather go C personally. It's a been a problem and is still a huge problem. Our top 4 dmen are fine, they just need to find someone to play on the bottom pairing who isn't a consistent train wreck like Nemeth. Adding a C would help take a with the defensive responsibility and C depth is a consistent trend of teams that win the cup and go far and ours lacks pretty significantly behind every team left outside Vegas if Kadri is included.

I just don't feel like a pure bottom pairing defenseman would play a big enough role to make a difference in what I see as their biggest area of need.

It wasn't just Graves and Nemeth having trouble out there, Girard and Toews had some troubles down low in the D zone too. They were the ones playing top 4 roles and I don't expect them to become better defensively down low, I think they more or less are what they are in that area.

 

[Colorado Avalanche]

The whole team needs more sandpaper. It ain't only the defensemen.

Now we are the four hobbits trying to destroy the ring, but without help of Gollum. We need that sandpaper, some bite, ugliness and dirtyness to get it done. We are trying to win without making our hands dirty.

 

[S E P H]

The whole team needs more sandpaper. It ain't only the defensemen.

Now we are the four hobbits trying to destroy the ring, but without help of Gollum. We need that sandpaper, some bite, ugliness and dirtyness to get it done. We are trying to win without making our hands dirty.

Now I am not sure if you're referencing in keeping Kadri here, but we simply can't. The next time he walks the line of an ugly hit (which how he plays is a matter of time) we're talking about 20+ games in a regular season or at least two full rounds of the playoffs. Let somebody else gamble with that.

 

[dahrougem2]

I can understand the desire to do this, and maybe I'm being naive, but Kadri basically went two years without doing something stupid, and then had one shift where he got too reckless and mistimed a big hit.

I don't think there's a high chance that he does that again next year. He'll be looking to prove he's not a liability in that area even more so now after he left Toronto, because he did it again, and he won't want another situation like that affecting his next deal in UFA.

For whatever it's worth, Kadri went through a couple rounds in the the 2020 playoffs without an issue like this, and put up 9 goals and 18 points in 15 games. If they can get something like that again, it would be a huge benefit.

Here's the problem, though:

Other players simply aren't doing what he's done now multiple times to earn suspensions. Why is it that he's putting himself in these situations time after time? Why aren't other players making these same questionable hits/plays (aside from Tom Wilson)?

As of now, there is zero reason to trust this guy. I want him gone, but I don't think he'll be moved. I think Sakic will keep him as the 2C for the final year of his contract as a full season rental and then hope to transition Newhook into his 2C role by 22-23. I don't agree if that's the route they take, because I don't believe you can count on Nazem Kadri keeping his emotions in check in a playoff series.

 

[Colorado Avalanche]

He is a year long rental. They have to gamble one more season. In the end, last season he was amazing in playoffs. I think that helps his case. Also his suspension was a joke. Brutal suspension.

 

[LieutenantDangle]

You wouldn’t get anything good in a kadri trade. His value is at an all time low so he’ll ride out his contract in Denver. Hell maybe they’ll even extend him to a similar cap hit

 

[Brett44]

Kadri for Frédéric and Debrusk

Trade Donskoi ,Graves and Compher

And sign RNH,Granlund or Danault and Oleksiak or Hakanpaa

 

[LTC Pain]

If Kadri gets us a 2nd pick I'd be a pig in slop.

I'm quite skeptical of the "Kadri will turn it around", or "Kadri will be a good boy next year" prophecies. He didn't turn his season around or show up as a predicted playoff monster. In fact, Kadri's true colors showed up with the hit and suspension. Now some are posting he will be back next season and be a straight arrow. I'm not holding my breath and hope Joe unloads Kadri at the draft.

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

I dont think he'll be a straight arrow, hence why I think.adding a 2C is the most important thing on our summer agenda.

But I also don't see any reason to trade him. Even as a 3C his contract is dirt cheap and he would be a quality Center for us. The great thing about adding a 2C is it moves Kadri down so in case he does do something stupid in the playoffs we have far more Center depth to handle it.

 

[The Abusement Park]

I dont think he'll be a straight arrow, hence why I think.adding a 2C is the most important thing on our summer agenda.

But I also don't see any reason to trade him. Even as a 3C his contract is dirt cheap and he would be a quality Center for us. The great thing about adding a 2C is it moves Kadri down so in case he does do something stupid in the playoffs we have far more Center depth to handle it.

Yup. Gives us a ton of insurance. Say if we sign Danault in FA we could run Mack-Danault-Kadri-Jost. Jost and Kadri can definitely slide up a line if injuries happen and theoretically Newhook could slide to C for a period of time as well if needed. Adding a 2C, particularly a good defensive C would do a lot for this team next year.

 

[nammerus]

He pouted like a baby after being demoted to the 2nd PP unit and subsequently scored at a pace suited for a 4th liner. I’m sure he’ll take being pushed down to the 3rd line with grace and maturity.

 

[jabubenice]

He pouted like a baby after being demoted to the 2nd PP unit and subsequently scored at a pace suited for a 4th liner. I’m sure he’ll take being pushed down to the 3rd line with grace and maturity.

that word again... its such a key word for the entire team as a collective...

 

[El Travo]

Send him to the shadow realm for all I care. The guy was useless all season and was even more so during the Playoffs due to being an idiot.

 

[SirLoinOfCloth]

I can't personally see Kadri leaving, and I can't see Sakic trying to upgrade on him for the 2C. I think Kadri returns whether fans like it or not. I think he has some use still, he just timed a hit horribly and it cost him the playoffs. It's weird to be simultaneously annoyed at him potentially being to blame for the Avs bowing out, and also to think he sucks. I don't think he sucks at all, he had a rough year as many players do, and then he f***ed up in the playoffs and his prior history of being a dumbass cost him badly. Hopefully he can turn it around next season.

 

[EdAVSfan]

Whether it’s a 2C or 3C, doesn’t really matter. Just get a guy good enough to be able to play as a 2C for short stints (in case of a Kadri injury). Basically try to find another middle 6C calibre player. How many are there available? I have no idea.

but we also need improvements to the D. So the expansion draft is going to play a major role in how much upgrading we’ll be able to do.

 

[AvsCOL]

I'm still so upset with Kadri. The Avs lost the Vegas series because the Marchessault - Karlsson - Rielly line absolutely walked the Avs second line all series. Injuries are one thing, but the Avs cannot take the chance on Kadri again at 2C.

 

[Avsboy]

"I feel like it's more the offender and not the offense" - Nazem Kadri on the hit that ended his season, and the lack of NHL officiating consistency | Colorado Hockey Now

Short of it (the important stuff): Avalanche and Kadri have each other's backs

 

[AvsCOL]

"I feel like it's more the offender and not the offense" - Nazem Kadri on the hit that ended his season, and the lack of NHL officiating consistency | Colorado Hockey Now

Short of it (the important stuff): Avalanche and Kadri have each other's backs

Kadri was a bust this season, even before the suspension. I’m sure the Avs have his back, but I really hope if there’s an option to upgrade on Kadri, they take it.