Kadri

[Colorado Avalanche]

Kadris suspension shows he is under serious witch hunt because otherwise it makes no sense.

 

[Colorado Avalanche]

Reaves had a phone hearing today for cross checking the goalie in the head then bull dogging Graves to the ice and grinding his knee into his throat and neck , so max 5 games but who wants to bet it's another 5k fine .

Turns out two games hahahahajajajjajaajjajhaha

 

[Gruyeriev]

Reeves gets 2 games.

I believe the Wilson 20 game suspension took almost 2 weeks for the independent arbitrator to decide on.

 

[cannucky]

Reeves gets 2 games.

I believe the Wilson 20 game suspension took almost 2 weeks for the independent arbitrator to decide on.

Yeah thats why I keep saying he will probably serve 7 or 8 before it gets reduced , unless the Avs sweep then the wait before round 3 will be enough for it to get reduced after having served 6

 

[Foppa2118]

Kadri's evidence for his defense. I don't see any way the NHL can justify this discrepancy.


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8 games

 

[Colorado Avalanche]

That Leafs match is soooo much worse. 0 games. OK

 

[JoeSakic13]

Yeah I’m honestly surprised Kadri’s suspension didn’t get reduced considering that hit on Galchenyuk got 0 games. What a joke.

 

[kl35ha]

If I was Kadri, I’d sue Bettman and NHL for playing favorite. I mean he has a lot of ammunition to do it.

The Reaves incidents (the Graves one and Sutter eating goal post to the face), heck just last night that Leddy hit, etc

Honestly, Kadri hit looks more like a accident more than anything...compare to others

 

[Frenchy]

Yeah I’m honestly surprised Kadri’s suspension didn’t get reduced considering that hit on Galchenyuk got 0 games. What a joke.

Me too , I wasnt expecting a clean slate from the NHL but at least choping off 1-2 games .

 

[niwotsblessing]

F'in joke.

 

[Metallo]

Kadri's evidence for his defense. I don't see any way the NHL can justify this discrepancy.


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8 games

Very well done with the video collection. The DOPS won’t have any credibility until they publish guidelines with metrics.

Reaves missing completly and getting 100% head and only one game is absurd.

 

[RockLobster]

If I was Kadri, I’d sue Bettman and NHL for playing favorite. I mean he has a lot of ammunition to do it.

The Reaves incidents (the Graves one and Sutter eating goal post to the face), heck just last night that Leddy hit, etc

Honestly, Kadri hit looks more like a accident more than anything...compare to others

I don't think Kadri's hit was an "accident", per se. I can understand the train of thought that his defense was, that he was trying to make a hockey play and mistimed it (I'm paraphrasing that here)...but honestly, it was a dumb decision. There wasn't any need for a big clean hit there. He has to have better situational awareness. Of course, that is easy for us at home to say.

Kadri deserved a suspension. If all things were equal, most of us would have been fine with 8 games. However, things are not and have not been equal in terms of the punishments the DoPS hands out. That is where my chief complain lies.

Given everything they let go just this season, and then you include the bullshit in the playoffs thus far, he should have a case of getting it reduced. It's not necessarily right, but that becomes the NHL's problem to deal with. They need to overhaul and have a clear template/guidance on this stuff. Like the Reaves bullshit...it's now out there that Reaves endorses/endorsed Parros' "Violent Gentleman" clothing line. Odds are Parros wouldn't want to jeopardize his job with the NHL just to obviously play favorites with someone who loves and endorses his non-NHL clothing line...but he should have recused himself from making the decision on this. He didn't, and now it has a stench of favoritism here. Naz simply just needs to ask if he would have had such a lengthy suspension if he too would endorse this clothing line.

 

[The Abusement Park]

With no context of the other stuff DOPS has done this year Kadri probably got 1 maybe 2 games more than he should’ve gotten. Getting suspended 5 times for the same thing is some of the lowest IQ shit I’ve ever seen.

But then again, so is most of what the DOPS decides.

 

[Colorado Avalanche]

I don't think Kadri's hit was an "accident", per se. I can understand the train of thought that his defense was, that he was trying to make a hockey play and mistimed it (I'm paraphrasing that here)...but honestly, it was a dumb decision. There wasn't any need for a big clean hit there. He has to have better situational awareness. Of course, that is easy for us at home to say.

Kadri deserved a suspension. If all things were equal, most of us would have been fine with 8 games. However, things are not and have not been equal in terms of the punishments the DoPS hands out. That is where my chief complain lies.

Given everything they let go just this season, and then you include the bullshit in the playoffs thus far, he should have a case of getting it reduced. It's not necessarily right, but that becomes the NHL's problem to deal with. They need to overhaul and have a clear template/guidance on this stuff. Like the Reaves bullshit...it's now out there that Reaves endorses/endorsed Parros' "Violent Gentleman" clothing line. Odds are Parros wouldn't want to jeopardize his job with the NHL just to obviously play favorites with someone who loves and endorses his non-NHL clothing line...but he should have recused himself from making the decision on this. He didn't, and now it has a stench of favoritism here. Naz simply just needs to ask if he would have had such a lengthy suspension if he too would endorse this clothing line.

Wow that's super messed up Reaves endorsing the clothing line.

 

[RockLobster]

I thought this was an interesting take on the matter. Again, I can see the thought process behind Kadri's hit being classified as a "hockey play", in the sense that it happened because he was trying to be physical and take away a scoring chance. The problem was that he was no where near in position to do that cleanly and the result was a high & dirty hit.

Reaves' shenanigans was nothing close to a "hockey play", it was post-whistle, and he did the following:

-Crosschecked Grubauer in the back of the head
-Punched Graves
-Pulled Graves to the ground
-Punched more
-Pulled chunks of his hair out
-Knelt on his head/neck
-Attempted to gouge his eyes out.
-Admitted all of this was because he felt he needed to retaliate on the Graves hit on Janmark (that was not a head shot, but slightly late)

How the DoPS can see this and admit that he did this, yet come up with a lesser suspension is...troubling.

 

[redacted]

^ Yup... The precedent has been set that violence in scrums is more acceptable than in the course of play. That is an incredibly poor standard to set.

 

[Hasbro]

Need to hang on to him because McCrimmon is dying for him on the Knights.

 

[forsbergavs32]

What bothers me too is they used history as a factor in Kadri's suspension, which is fine, but his last suspension was in 2019. Reaves just got suspended last playoffs for another intent to injure and they didn't use history there even though these are not hockey plays (not to mention what happened with Suter the game before that they didn't even bat an eye at).

To me, they need to stop having former players run DoPS. You either have guys that hand out worse suspensions to teams they don't like (Shanahan) or guys that rewards goons they like (Parros).

 

[Bonzai12]

^ Yup... The precedent has been set that violence in scrums is more acceptable than in the course of play. That is an incredibly poor standard to set.

it's almost as if Parros is trying to welcome enforcers back to the game under the guise of "player safety"

 

[klozge]

it's almost as if Parros is trying to welcome enforcers back to the game under the guise of "player safety"

Parros is an intellectually overrated guy who thinks he is cool but doesn't even understand what kind of hockey people want to see in this age. He's not very smart at certain things.

 

[ItsFineImFine]

So apparently this is a fine:

But this is a suspension?

The f***? They're both suspensions lol Kadri has a perfectly good case here with an arbitrator going back to past suspension lengths.

 

[CharlesPuck]

Sucks for Kadri, he has to feel pretty frustrated with this whole process. He gets to be made an example of while other worse offenders get basically nothing. Gotta feel really invalidating.

 

[Freudian]

I don't get it. Why doesn't Kroenke use some of his referee bribing money to bribe this arbiter? Worst owner ever.

 

[The Abusement Park]

So apparently this is a fine:

But this is a suspension?

The f***? They're both suspensions lol Kadri has a perfectly good case here with an arbitrator going back to past suspension lengths.

Debrusk doesn’t have a lengthy history?

 

[dwkdnvr]

^ Yup... The precedent has been set that violence in scrums is more acceptable than in the course of play. That is an incredibly poor standard to set.

Yeah, this is definitely the part that makes the league look incompetent. I mean the NFL isn't exactly on the ball all the time, but their zero-tolerance for crap after the play is generally consistent and keeps things from escalating with the frequency you see in hockey. There is absolutely no defense for Reaves' actions here - he admitted he was engaged in frontier justice - and the league basically says "your motivation is fine, but you went just a bit too far". Clearly, the league wants to continue to encourage the post-whistle scrums as well as the idea that retribution/retaliation is 'just part of the game', but believing you can do that and still keep any kind of reasonable control seems to be a fool's errand - you're inviting the escalation and just hoping it won't be too bad. It doesn't seem too hard to see a path where the league has opened themselves up to legal action if something catastrophic happens, but OTOH they managed to avoid it in the Moore/Bertuzzi incident so maybe they're confident that they'll never be held liable.