Juraj Slafkovsky - Year Two

Where would you prefer Slaf spend his 23-24 season?


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Colezuki

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Im happy to see him continue to track well at the mid point, there’s a thread that was on the main board where I literally said this could look real ugly for a few people in a few years after calling him a potential bust. Still love the pick
 
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waitin425

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As pretty as this post is and nice to see him on top of that list. I really don't care about his point totals at all at this point, just keep growing young man, that's what I'm most pleased to see.

He's slowly starting to get this whole north american pro game. Such a coachable kid with a great desire to be better than he was yesterday, the points will just organically follow as he continues to blossom.

If or when he gets there, he can and will positively impact many aspects of a game beyond points.

Post above about his point production while nice and good to see shouldn't be the main focus. It's just superficial glitter at this time in the greater scheme of things imo.

Kid's 19, lots of time and room to grow.
Agree completely. Many of us unfortunately are only stat watchers. As that posts shows....even the stat argument is debunked. Kid is growing in confidence each game! Love to see it
 
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I do find it hilarious that some bash Slaf for not having elite skills while simultaneously admitting there weren’t elite players in that draft anyway.

And some feel “entitled”? No wonder we’re mocked by so many fanbases.

Yeah, yeah, he isn’t progressing like Jack Hughes (another moronic take). Sure, Slaf may eventually top out as a middle-6 winger, but we’ll only know in 2-3 years which is how much longer the rebuild will continue anyways.

The lack of patience is astounding…
 

waitin425

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I do find it hilarious that some bash Slaf for not having elite skills while simultaneously admitting there weren’t elite players in that draft anyway.

And some feel “entitled”? No wonder we’re mocked by so many fanbases.

Yeah, yeah, he isn’t progressing like Jack Hughes (another moronic take). Sure, Slaf may eventually top out as a middle-6 winger, but we’ll only know in 2-3 years which is how much longer the rebuild will continue anyways.

The lack of patience is astounding…
Many will ragret bashing him!
 

The Gr8 Dane

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he was good last night , points or not

He’s been progressing very well. I’ve been saying it for a while that you need to look at the overall trend. He’s slowly refining all aspects of his game. His play without the puck has developed so much since the start of season.
he might be our best winger without the puck..... im not sure if its a positive for slaf or indictment on the rest of the boys...ill take it as both
 

ChesterNimitz

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As pretty as this post is and nice to see him on top of that list. I really don't care about his point totals at all at this point, just keep growing young man, that's what I'm most pleased to see.

He's slowly starting to get this whole north american pro game. Such a coachable kid with a great desire to be better than he was yesterday, the points will just organically follow as he continues to blossom.

If or when he gets there, he can and will positively impact many aspects of a game beyond points.

Post above about his point production while nice and good to see shouldn't be the main focus. It's just superficial glitter at this time in the greater scheme of things imo.

Kid's 19, lots of time and room to grow.
But you are asking some here to do the unthinkable: be patient. How unreasonable of you.
 

rahad

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I'm sorry....but anyone who hated on this kid...proclaims him a bust....natters on about how he should be in the AHL. You can start to back track now guys. Please. Just jump on this Slaf train. Doubling down will make you look even more foolish.

So saying he should have been playing in the AHL = to calling him a bust now? I barely seen anyone call him a bust. Maybe one or two of his biggest haters calling him a bust.

The rest of us wanted him to success. We wanted him to play 20++ mins in the AHL (first lines and Power play)...
 

waitin425

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So saying he should have been playing in the AHL = to calling him a bust now? I barely seen anyone call him a bust. Maybe one or two of his biggest haters calling him a bust.

The rest of us wanted him to success. We wanted him to play 20++ mins in the AHL (first lines and Power play)...
You did in fact want him in the AHL. Do you still feel that way? After the past 7 or so games, do you think the best place for him is in the AHL right now? Do you think prior to the past 7 games if he was in the AHL and started there this year, he would have been somehow ever better than the best 7 games?

The argument is over. Let's all get on board and start pumping this guy. Minor skepticism and identifying areas of improvement (shooting) is fair. But advocating for this guy to be in the AHL is so far off base at this point.
 

Mrb1p

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All the vindication in this thread is so cringe.

First it wasnt about points, it was about the process, now he gets points (to the very elite clip of .3 ppg) and somehow were celebrating?

He still struggles with his shot, he still has a hard time not cherry picking a passing lane, he still kills plays because he has poor vision, etc. All things a stint in the AHL wouldve adressed. Id add his defensive reads too but thats just time-relative. Hes still not on the PP, his ice time is still low.

Pump the brakes. Hes now at a level where hes above a 4th liner, how are we celebrating this?

Ill add the usual annoying disclaimer to catter to the Karens: No he is not a bust, no he will not bust, yes he is a quality player.

You did in fact want him in the AHL. Do you still feel that way? After the past 7 or so games, do you think the best place for him is in the AHL right now? Do you think prior to the past 7 games if he was in the AHL and started there this year, he would have been somehow ever better than the best 7 games?

The argument is over. Let's all get on board and start pumping this guy. Minor skepticism and identifying areas of improvement (shooting) is fair. But advocating for this guy to be in the AHL is so far off base at this point.
Its not. A reason why he cant shoot is because he doesnt yet have the processing speed to recognize situation in which shooting would be the right play.

Thats the kind of things that the AHL helps with, more situations to practice this.
 

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a fun exercise is to go back 30 pages in this thread and see how far the goalposts have moved in less than two weeks.
people are doing a great job of convincing themselves they've had the same "correct" opinion on Slaf's development this whole time but boy is that not the case.
 
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waitin425

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All the vindication in this thread is so cringe.

First it wasnt about points, it was about the process, now he gets points (to the very elite clip of .3 ppg) and somehow were celebrating?

He still struggles with his shot, he still has a hard time not cherry picking a passing lane, he still kills plays because he has poor vision, etc. All things a stint in the AHL wouldve adressed. Id add his defensive reads too but thats just time-relative. Hes still not on the PP, his ice time is still low.

Pump the brakes. Hes now at a level where hes above a 4th liner, how are we celebrating this?

Ill add the usual annoying disclaimer to catter to the Karens: No he is not a bust, no he will not bust, yes he is a quality player.


Its not. A reason why he cant shoot is because he doesnt yet have the processing speed to recognize situation in which shooting would be the right play.

Thats the kind of things that the AHL helps with, more situations to practice this.
Bip....respectfully you are wrong. His shot needs work, but its not a processing issue. He has been playing great hockey and belongs on the big team. He uses his body to his advantage....each game that becomes more obvious......his passing has been both creative and effective.....this requires excellent vision......his backchecking and defensive awareness are growing.....as evidenced in blocked shots......If you can't see that, you are so clearly in the minority at this point, that it comes across as pure hating of the player, or shear arrogance on your part, to claim to know better.
 

admiralcadillac

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a fun exercise is to go back 30 pages in this thread and see how far the goalposts have moved in less than two weeks.
people are doing a great job of convincing themselves they've had the same "correct" opinion on Slaf's development this whole time but boy is that not the case.

Well Rehabs is noticeably absent. I’m sure he’ll reappear once Slaf inevitably has a bad sequence.
 
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admiralcadillac

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I have no idea how Slaf recent points success is a proof that the AHL wouldn't have helped...lol. Makes no sense. So not scoring doesn't mean the AHL was the way to go. But scoring SHOWS it wasn't? What kind of kindergarten type of thinking is that?
I think multiple people on just the last page alone have talked about much more than the points he’s scoring, which were elements that were already used as arguments that he belongs in the NHL.

I.e. defensive awareness.
 

DAChampion

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I have no idea how Slaf recent points success is a proof that the AHL wouldn't have helped...lol. Makes no sense. So not scoring doesn't mean the AHL was the way to go. But scoring SHOWS it wasn't? What kind of kindergarten type of thinking is that?

What they're saying is that if Slafkovsky becomes a good player without having spent time in the AHL, then it's proof that he wouldn't have benefited from time in the AHL.

:)
 
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