Juraj Slafkovsky - Year Two

[417]

I said "Pretty soon". You used "At some point". We're saying the same thing – Slafkovsky's progress must start translating into real production. Not tomorrow, but... um... pretty soon and at some point. It's fair to set markers for his progress – x-amount of goals and assists over x-amount of time – since producing goals and assists are the main job of an NHL winger.

I pulled '8 points before the New Year' out of my ass. What's your expectation for him?

Depends on if the team can get guys like Anderson, Newhook, Caufield (at ES), Dvorak, to start chipping in more regularly than I would say 10-12 pts by the New Year is achievable.

But it's still process > results for me right now.

 

[Kennerback]

That's the neat thing, if you never give a concrete number you never have to admit that something's going wrong. You can just say some nonsense like ''there are so many more variables you're not considering, development's not linear.''

While all the other players are playing Xbox or with their wives/girlfriends, Slaf needs to spend hours on his shot. IMO, linear won’t even suffice. Whether a 19 year old millionaire is ready to do that is a whole other story.

 

[The Gr8 Dane]

There’s a few posters in here, won’t go by name, that carefully select how they’re wording things hoping they can avoid eating crow a few years from now if Slaf doesn’t work out.

Right and on the opposite spectrum his most vocal critics aren't scared of eating crow at all since they are fans of the team before fans of slaf. Its pretty easy to critique the kid when you look at the production ( even I have had some pretty strong critiques on his play)

"Oh no how will i ever recover if Slaf becomes a star ppg player for a team that hasn't had one in 20 years " , im sure Rehabs and Provo are waking up in cold sweats to slafkovsky hat trick nightmares /s

 

[DAChampion]

There’s a few posters in here, won’t go by name, that carefully select how they’re wording things hoping they can avoid eating crow a few years from now if Slaf doesn’t work out.

Nobody's going to eat crow here, we very rarely go back on people's stances to shit on them.

Ok, it does happen but it's rare.

 

[417]

That's the neat thing, if you never give a concrete number you never have to admit that something's going wrong. You can just say some nonsense like ''there are so many more variables you're not considering, development's not linear.''

I've been wrong on here, I been right…i promise you I couldn't give 2 f***s about either on on here man.

I try to do right by kids man, I love this place but it ain't that serious and I would hope everyone feels the same.

Fill my virtual Crow account all you want man

 

[Jaynki]

8 points in the next 21 games is very plausible. Especially with how he has played recently. With the opportunities he had it's a bet i would take.

 

[Mrb1p]

Nobody's going to eat crow here, we very rarely go back on people's stances to shit on them.

Ok, it does happen but it's rare.

Meanwhile I get called out daily for liking Brook

 

[DramaticGloveSave]

People arguing over Slafkovsky when we just took Reinbacher over Michkov….

 

[nhlfan9191]

Right and on the opposite spectrum his most vocal critics aren't scared of eating crow at all since they are fans of the team before fans of slaf. Its pretty easy to critique the kid when you look at the production ( even I have had some pretty strong critiques on his play)

"Oh no how will i ever recover if Slaf becomes a star ppg player for a team that hasn't had one in 20 years " , im sure Rehabs and Provo are waking up in cold sweats to slafkovsky hat trick nightmares /s

The thing is, with people who aren’t optimistic about Slaf, like the people you mentioned or myself, it’s automatically a win for us because of we do in fact end up being wrong it means that he hit his full potential which is amazing for the team. Only a troll would want to be right about something like that.

 

[The Gr8 Dane]

People arguing over Slafkovsky when we just took Reinbacher over Michkov….

We really needed to get one of the top 3 C's last draft , it would have made the focus alot less on slafkovsky at first overall being obligated to be a star for our rebuild to be deemed successful. Leo Fantili and bedard are going to be monsters.

 

[NotProkofievian]

I've been wrong on here, I been right…i promise you I couldn't give 2 f***s about either on on here man.

I try to do right by kids man, I love this place but it ain't that serious and I would hope everyone feels the same.

Fill my virtual Crow account all you want man

Oh did I trigger you? I wasn't talking about you, so the fact that you thought I was calling you out says more about you than it does about me.

 

[Skip Bayless]

Slaf is so crazy

 

[cave troll]

Cooley is a great talent no doubt but he stepped into the NHL right onto the 1st PP wave and top line minutes. Also a smart idea to have Cooley play one season in college which is probably the best place to develop players, not as many games, lots of practices and gym time.

Also, he dominated there and scored 60points in 39 games. Was a No1 player in his team and one of 2 best in the league. No wonder he started in NHL with full confidence and even in his limited minutes he delivers like a pro on PP.
On the other hand we grabbed a kid from Liiga thinking he's ready. Kid was 188th in Liiga in PPG. Not even a decisive factor in his own club. Just a prospect with big frame. He struggled big time to score goals in Liiga. 2 years passed and he has the same struggles. Coindence? Bad luck?
I wonder how would he end up if he didn't had that streak on Olympics? I think that streak was the main reason he was picked first.

 

[417]

Oh did I trigger you? I wasn't talking about you, so the fact that you thought I was calling you out says more about you than it does about me.

Did you even read my post? Your whole identity might be wrapped up here, but not mine man.

This just a place I come on here to post about the team I've loved for the past 35+ years man…

I don’t know you from a hole in a wall ...you see my location though, you can find me

Right or wrong about Slafkovsky I'm gonna be here regardless lol

 

[NotProkofievian]

Slaf is so crazy

Omg bruh he's so crazy like... mans out here shooting 6 times a game bruv.

 

[417]

The thing is, with people who aren’t optimistic about Slaf, like the people you mentioned or myself, it’s automatically a win for us because of we do in fact end up being wrong it means that he hit his full potential which is amazing for the team. Only a troll would want to be right about something like that.

Whose “us” in this post? What’s the score? .

Y’all kill me lol

 

[nhlfan9191]

Whose “us” in this post? What’s the score? .

Y’all kill me lol

You only have to read a few pages in this thread to see there’s a divide on not just Slafkovsky, but development in general. You’re asking “what score” but there’s people trying to force feed crow anytime Slafkovsky has a good game. You can find just as many people doing the opposite when he has a bad game. I imagine the moderators are going to have to duck their heads a few years from now when we have the real answer on what Slaf is.

 

[Whitesnake]

Kaiden Guhle gets rocked a lot too…its an adjustment to make, especially when your big and used to just dominating physically, it can take more than just 50 games to get used to that.

I'm talking about accepting a REALITY, which is that he’s not going to the AHL anytime soon.

That's like trying to argue that it's too early for snow in mid November.

D-man will often be more rocked than forwards due to position.

As far as reality, well, again, I'M pretty sure me, you and everybody else has argued about stuff that seems reality. Anderson keeps being on the PP. Still wondering how it's the best decision. Especially when you could have a Slaf that could get those 1st PP minutes to get his confidence going. As of right now, reality is that we are rocking 3 goalies.

Thing is...reality can change. We will see which way.

 

[DAChampion]

Meanwhile I get called out daily for liking Brook

Those people are too dumb to realize that injuries can detail any career.

 

[dackelljuneaubulis02]

Omg bruh he's so crazy like... mans out here shooting 6 times a game bruv.

He’s having a blast watching you guys bicker over nonsense.

He’s the smartest guy in here

 

[SlafySZN]

There’s a few posters in here, won’t go by name, that carefully select how they’re wording things hoping they can avoid eating crow a few years from now if Slaf doesn’t work out.

Same for the other way around

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

21 games left before the New Year.

So 8 points in the next 21 GP for a total of 10 pts. in 36 GP. Very slightly better than his pace last season. I'm honestly not sure if you're being sarcastic when you call that "Lofty".

Lofty vs what he's already done, or not done actually. 8 in 21 would be unprecedented in his case. He's barely 0.25 in his career. 8 in 21 is 150% of that rate.

 

[417]

D-man will often be more rocked than forwards due to position.

I don't recall the other Dmen on this team getting rocked as much as Guhle.

As far as reality, well, again, I'M pretty sure me, you and everybody else has argued about stuff that seems reality. Anderson keeps being on the PP. Still wondering how it's the best decision. Especially when you could have a Slaf that could get those 1st PP minutes to get his confidence going. As of right now, reality is that we are rocking 3 goalies.

Thing is...reality can change. We will see which way.

You see it too then?

Hence why i’m not getting caught up in his lack of production right now.

Coaches seem way more concerned with propping up Anderson (whose production should be WAY more of a topic of discussion amongst Habs fans) than he is with Slafkovsky who he keeps repeating that they're not preoccupied about his production.

 

[Lshap]

People arguing over Slafkovsky when we just took Reinbacher over Michkov….

We're only permitted one melodrama per season.

 

[417]

I have a serious question for Habs fans...

Let's say it takes 200 NHL games, so about another 2 NHL seasons roughly, before Slafkovsky starts to look and produce like the player the Habs drafted 1st overall.

Will it have mattered that he didn't go to the AHL for those 200 games and instead spent them plying his trade and improving himself physically and mentally for the player he eventually became, IN the NHL?

And i'm not even talking generational 1st overall...just say top line PF, who is impossible to get off the puck, can score 25-30+ goals and opens up a ton of space for his linemates, essentially the perfect foil to Suzuki/Caufield.

Just curious with this "pie in the sky" hypothetical, would people be happy with that?

Or will the idea be that if he was sent to the AHL, he'd be so much better than just that?