Juraj Slafkovsky - Year Two

[ReHabs]

Patrik Stefan and Nail Yakupov are two. The 2022 draft was relatively weak. Would he still be this disappointing if he was drafted 5th overall? Consensus seems to be that he would be a top ten draft regardles.
Slaf has a positive attitude despite the negative fans and media. He wants to improve and we have seen positive glimpses.

He’s awful in the nhl so far no matter his draft position. He shouldn’t be here. I’d be disappointed to see any prospect look as bad and out of place as he does. It’s genuinely worrisome that they spent a valuable draft pick on a guy who seemingly doesn’t know how to play organized hockey.

If he was any other pick I’d also expect him to be sent away to develop outside of the NHL.

What his proponents want is to give him the (unearned) gravitas of a 1OA with the performance expectations of an undrafted player. Which… doesn’t make sense.

 

[billy piton]

Nobody was fool to waste 1OA pick on Thompson.
That year's 1OA was Matthews who broke out the second he stepped on the ice.
Thompson broke out at 24? Not bad for 26th OA.
Nobody here would write one bad word about Slaf if he was picked 26th.

yet, you're calling mešar bust, who was also 26ao and 2ppg in ohl at the moment.

 

[Dach Vader]

Nobody was fool to waste 1OA pick on Thompson.
That year's 1OA was Matthews who broke out the second he stepped on the ice.
Thompson broke out at 24? Not bad for 26th OA.
Nobody here would write one bad word about Slaf if he was picked 26th.

Okay well you missed the point. Thompson is 6'6, 220 ibs.. I only used him as an example. He's a bigger guy and it took him time.

Slafkovsky is better now than Thompson was at 19 and he's heavier.

 

[StCaufield]

Okay well you missed the point. Thompson is 6'6, 220 ibs.. I only used him as an example. He's a bigger guy and it took him time.

Slafkovsky is better now than Thompson was at 19 and he's heavier.

They have 2 different brains

 

[StCaufield]

People can argue whether he should develop here or in the AHL all they want but the truth is he’s just a horrible first overall pick that won’t develop in any league.

He’s bad, no IQ, no shot, no situational awareness, limited skill, absolutely nothing is elite except on a tape measurer and when he steps on a scale.

Can’t believe he was our pick, I guess I’ll just think of Lane Hutson to feel a little bit better.

I’m not a fan of Slaf but this has to be one of the worst takes I’ve ever seen on this board. Maybe not a 1st overall but the rest of what was said is trash

 

[cave troll]

Okay well you missed the point. Thompson is 6'6, 220 ibs.. I only used him as an example. He's a bigger guy and it took him time.

Slafkovsky is better now than Thompson was at 19 and he's heavier.

How come we always took examples from some player drafted far below Slaf who managed to grab the game after 5-6 years?
Why aren't we comparing him with other 1OA?
If we use Thompson as an example, how come we don't put Slaf in the same developmental path? Tage spent one year in NCAA and 4 years in minors after being drafted.

 

[Dach Vader]

How come we always took examples from some player drafted far below Slaf who managed to grab the game after 5-6 years?
Why aren't we comparing him with other 1OA?
If we use Thompson as an example, how come we don't put Slaf in the same developmental path? Tage spent one year in NCAA and 4 years in minors after being drafted.

Am i talking to a peanut? Seriously? You can't remember what I said an hour ago?

 

[cave troll]

Am i talking to a peanut? Seriously? You can't remember what I said an hour ago?

Man, you're at least 20th person on this topic with " bigger players take long time to develop". And you bring Thomspon as an example.
I just asked why we wasted 1OA on a player like that? Nobody was willing to gamble on Thompson in Top20.

 

[ReHabs]

Man, you're at least 20th person on this topic with " bigger players take long time to develop". And you bring Thomspon as an example.
I just asked why we wasted 1OA on a player like that? Nobody was willing to gamble on Thompson in Top20.

Thompson got to develop his game very very far from the NHL.

Incomparable.

 

[Dach Vader]

Man, you're at least 20th person on this topic with " bigger players take long time to develop". And you bring Thomspon as an example.
I just asked why we wasted 1OA on a player like that? Nobody was willing to gamble on Thompson in Top20.

You're having a conversation with yourself dude.

 

[Jaynki]

150 more games ? that's full bust territory at that point and waaay to late to send him down. too late at that point

Its the end of his ELC...

When we acquired Dach, he was where Slaf will be in 150 games.

Injury aside, are we happy we got him, especially for the price we paid?

How was he perceived at the times we acquired him ? <- Bust.

So yeah, i think its fair to expect meaningful improvement during those 150 games but maybe we should chill down a bit too.

 

[Souker]

Everyone breathe and relax. Everything will be ok.
Doesn’t matter if he’s 1st overall - doesn’t mean he has to be ready from day 1.
He is a unique player and will likely have a unique development path. Trust the process.

 

[ReHabs]

Trust the process.

Why?

 

[Jaynki]

Why aren't we comparing him with other 1OA?

Isnt it commonly accepted that the 2022 draft did not have true 1st overall talent?

That does not negate that Slaf is still a great prospects.

Also, why is it not valid to compare him with other too prospects who struggled or emerged later? Is it because it sucked we had our 1st in a bad year and our 1st overall is not an absolute elite MacKinnon, Matthews or McDavid?

 

[DAChampion]

Nobody was fool to waste 1OA pick on Thompson.
That year's 1OA was Matthews who broke out the second he stepped on the ice.
Thompson broke out at 24? Not bad for 26th OA.
Nobody here would write one bad word about Slaf if he was picked 26th.

Except at this point, Tage Thompson might be an even better player to have on a team than Auston Matthews.

 

[OnTheRun]

Thompson got to develop his game very very far from the NHL.

Incomparable.

Gotta be one of the most liberal use of "develop his game very very far from the NHL"

18yo: 26 AHL games
19yo: 41 NHL games (9pts) | 30 AHL games
20yo: 65 NHL games (12pts) | 11 AHL games
21yo: 1 NHL games(call up, got injured for the rest of the season during that single game) | 16 AHL games
22yo: 38 NHL games (14pts) | 0 AHL games
By the age of 23 he had played 145 games NHL and had 35 points to show for it.

He also managed to play 74% more NHL games than AHL games when he was developing very very far from the NHL, what a guy.

 

[DAChampion]

Gotta be one of the most liberal use of "develop his game very very far from the NHL"

18yo: 26 AHL games
19yo: 45 NHL games (9pts) | 30 AHL games
20yo: 65 NHL games (12pts) | 11 AHL games
21yo: 1 NHL games(call up, got injured for the rest of the season during that single game) | 16 AHL games
22yo: 38 NHL games (14pts) | 0 AHL games
By the age of 23 he had played 145 games NHL and had 35 points to show for it.

He also managed to play 75% more NHL games than AHL games when he was developing very very far from the NHL, what a guy.

Tage Thompson got 83 AHL games (including playoffs) and 7 WJC games after being drafted.

Slafkovsky is on track for 0.

 

[OnTheRun]

Tage Thompson got 83 AHL games (including playoffs) and 7 WJC games after being drafted.

Slafkovsky is on track for 0.

Yes, it's all there.

So you would consider time split between the AHL and NHL on a 1:1.8 ratio to be very very far from the NHL?

 

[NORiculous]

Okay well you missed the point. Thompson is 6'6, 220 ibs.. I only used him as an example. He's a bigger guy and it took him time.

Slafkovsky is better now than Thompson was at 19 and he's heavier.

How many Tage Thompson in the history of the league do you think there has been?

 

[ReHabs]

Gotta be one of the most liberal use of "develop his game very very far from the NHL"

18yo: 26 AHL games
19yo: 45 NHL games (9pts) | 30 AHL games
20yo: 65 NHL games (12pts) | 11 AHL games
21yo: 1 NHL games(call up, got injured for the rest of the season during that single game) | 16 AHL games
22yo: 38 NHL games (14pts) | 0 AHL games
By the age of 23 he had played 149 games NHL and had 35 points to show for it.

He also managed to play 79% more NHL games than AHL games when he was developing very very far from the NHL, what a guy.

It’s mind boggling you’d put in efforts to corral numbers but then use them incorrectly like you do. And also lie, you lie a lot.

Thompson went back to play for UConn in his D+1.

He and Slaf’s development cannot be compared and will never be comparable except to show how badly the Habs rushed Slafkovsky.

How many Tage Thompson in the history of the league do you think there has been?

It’s a never ending rotation of half-fitting, though critically incorrect, examples. It’s like whack a mole. Next will come Joe Thornton again.

As if anybody seriously thinks Tage Thompson’s route to the NHL is replicable or even a road map of any kind.

 

[OnTheRun]

It’s mind boggling you’d put in efforts to corral numbers but then use them incorrectly like you do. And also lie, you lie a lot.

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Thompson went back to play for UConn in his D+1.

He and Slaf’s development cannot be compared and will never be comparable except to show how badly the Habs rushed Slafkovsky.

Lmao, okay I typo'ed his first nhl season, it's 41 instead of 45, i'll correct this (not that it would change anything...)

 

[Gustave]

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[ReHabs]

Lmao, okay I typo'ed his first nhl season, it's 41 instead of 45, i'll correct this (not that it would change anything...)

No, you simply lied and omitted the D+1 season in college. Think we’re fools?

 

[Dach Vader]

How many Tage Thompson in the history of the league do you think there has been?

I mentioned Thompson with other players like Hughes, Draisaitl in my original post. The other guy just was talking about Thompson & not following what I said. That wasn't the point or my original example. It was a collective of players I was talking about.

 

[Frank Drebin]

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