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Juraj Slafkovsky - Year Two

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Where would you prefer Slaf spend his 23-24 season?

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He’s been getting more chances lately and is driving to the net a lot I’m noticing, I feel like he’s going to be contributing a lot more soon. I’m confused as to why he doesn’t get the occasional shift in OT, not sure why we don’t give him that extra space, he seems to do well with extra space on the PP
 
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Gally11 said:
He’s been getting more chances lately and is driving to the net a lot I’m noticing, I feel like he’s going to be contributing a lot more soon. I’m confused as to why he doesn’t get the occasional shift in OT, not sure why we don’t give him that extra space, he seems to do well with extra space on the PP
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I think it'll come very soon. I'd like to see him out there with CC and Matheson.
 
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Gally11 said:
He’s been getting more chances lately and is driving to the net a lot I’m noticing, I feel like he’s going to be contributing a lot more soon. I’m confused as to why he doesn’t get the occasional shift in OT, not sure why we don’t give him that extra space, he seems to do well with extra space on the PP
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My feeling is that they still want to tightly control his responsibility/focus. It's likely they want to avoid adding any additional weight/pressure on him right now. It's the same with moving up to the 1st wave of the PP, or getting some PK time, it's less about whether he could have some success there and more about sticking with the development plan they have for him.
 
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Habssince89 said:
You know when people are negative and cyncial because for some reason they think it shows intelligence, but its actually just a coping mechanism because they're too scared to be positive about something?

If you can't recognize the small, steady improvements that slaf is
making then you simply don't understand hockey. watch more post less.
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That user’s commentary is actually to expose the coping mechanisms of die hard Hughes/Habs supporters who refuse to call a spade a spade, that Slafkovsky is underperforming and is on the wrong track.

So the claim can go the other way: if you can’t recognize that he’s not made sufficient improvements in the NHL, you simply don’t understand what it takes for a young player to grow in the NHL.
 
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Habssince89 said:
You know when people are negative and cyncial because for some reason they think it shows intelligence, but its actually just a coping mechanism because they're too scared to be positive about something?

If you can't recognize the small, steady improvements that slaf is
making then you simply don't understand hockey. watch more post less.
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🎯

Doesn't get any better and more accurate than this post. Well done!

👍😎👍.
 
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japhi said:
Ever stop to consider that the guys you quote, are just....you know....fans of the team? Cheering for the guy and looking for positives? Anger much?
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That’s perfectly fine, admirable even, but the subtext sadly isn’t “let’s root for the best!” it’s more like “don’t criticize the Habs, they know best”.

Because we’re referring to the development of our tank prize and how he’s nowhere close to being a relevant NHL player. He’s already been surpassed by Cooley. How many more will zip by him as he stagnates and struggles to follow basic hockey plays?

We shouldn’t sugar coat the truth: the Habs got this wrong. If you want to be optimistic you can say there is still time to course correct.

Meanwhile the Habs and Habs commentators want us to tank and tank and tank and tank and lose and lose and lose and lose. So how does that square with being positive?

I would want nothing more than to cheer for this team to win hockey games. That means players who contribute should be praised and those who don’t should not be praised. If you want to be results-based, Slafkovsky is not bringing results. If you want to be performance-based, Slafkovsky is not performing. So what is there we have to cheer on?

Send him to the AHL for heaven’s sake
 
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japhi said:
'Die hard Habs supporters'...., agree, those guys are SO annoying.
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Yes within context of both die hard supporting LOSING and die hard claiming the prize of the tank is actually good and worthwhile to keep LOSING it is very very annoying

We want to cheer for a successful and exciting team and we’re told to wait multiple more years for the rebuild to finish. And when one of the major components of the rebuild doesn’t show progress they yell and stomp their feet and say we’re not sufficiently patient. So basically it’s “my way or the highway”.

We’ve not seen a 1OA perform this poorly in over 20-25 years. This is his D+2 and he’s on pace for fewer points than his D+1 rookie season. If the Habs got this wrong we should be allowed to speak about it — because fan pressure will encourage them to course correct. Cope and toxic optimism will only enable them.

Don’t tell me it’s normal for sports fans to want to lose.
 
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Yes within context of both die hard supporting LOSING and die hard claiming the prize of the tank is actually good and worthwhile to keep LOSING it is very very annoying

We want to cheer for a successful and exciting team and we’re told to wait multiple more years for the rebuild to finish. And when one of the major components of the rebuild doesn’t show progress they yell and stomp their feet and say we’re not sufficiently patient. So basically it’s “my way or the highway”.

We’ve not seen a 1OA perform this poorly in over 20-25 years. This is his D+2 and he’s on pace for fewer points than his D+1 rookie season. If the Habs got this wrong we should be allowed to speak about it — because fan pressure will encourage them to course correct. Cope and toxic optimism will only enable them.

Don’t tell me it’s normal for sports fans to want to lose.
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Hey man, when you say stuff like "we’re told to wait multiple more years for the rebuild to finish". I can't imagine who is telling you these things. But I believe in you, I believe in Slaf, and more then that I believe it's time for bed.
 
Dach Vader said:
I mentioned Thompson with other players like Hughes, Draisaitl in my original post. The other guy just was talking about Thompson & not following what I said. That wasn't the point or my original example. It was a collective of players I was talking about.
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And where do you see connection beteeen Slaf , Drai and Hughes?
Drai was deemed not ready for NHL after draft and sent to juniors. Came back at D+2, scored 51 pts in 72 games (0.70 PPG).
Hughes struggled in D+1, while in D+2 he was already at 0.66 PPG in a season where he was dealing with injuries.
Where is Slaf in D+2? Struglling to produce while fanbase watches if he is capable of making some good passes and shoots at goal form time to time and then cheer when he finds a linemate with a pass. This is Slaf's reality.
And BTW, considering how we all watch 1OA contribution to the game I will stop calling Patrik Stefan a bust. His 25-40 pts seasons were not bad. We would sure call Slaf a good NHL player and not a bust if he racks 30-40 pts seasons.
 
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I liked enough of what I saw last night that I think he should replace Anderson on the top PP unit. His play along the half wall was strong upon zone entry. He read the play well and made good passes. It fed into the rest of his night. He looked good with Dvorak. More jump in his step.
 
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ReHabs said:
That’s perfectly fine, admirable even, but the subtext sadly isn’t “let’s root for the best!” it’s more like “don’t criticize the Habs, they know best”.

Because we’re referring to the development of our tank prize and how he’s nowhere close to being a relevant NHL player. He’s already been surpassed by Cooley. How many more will zip by him as he stagnates and struggles to follow basic hockey plays?

We shouldn’t sugar coat the truth: the Habs got this wrong. If you want to be optimistic you can say there is still time to course correct.

Meanwhile the Habs and Habs commentators want us to tank and tank and tank and tank and lose and lose and lose and lose. So how does that square with being positive?

I would want nothing more than to cheer for this team to win hockey games. That means players who contribute should be praised and those who don’t should not be praised. If you want to be results-based, Slafkovsky is not bringing results. If you want to be performance-based, Slafkovsky is not performing. So what is there we have to cheer on?

Send him to the AHL for heaven’s sake
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You’re kind of all over the place with your argument. The rebuild and Slafkovsky are two separate issues but you’re mixing your frustration of both into one thing. Whoever we drafted in 2022 wasn’t going to change the fact we play in the bloodbath Atlantic Division and there’s years of Bergevin destruction to repair the entire roster. Rome wasn’t built in a night. When you start trying to desperately put together a competitive team, nothing good ever happens of it. You just end up in no man’s land.
 
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Jeune Poulet said:
You know, when your best friend is madly in love with someone, and you finally meet that person for the first time and find out it's an extremely ugly, insufferable idiot. And then later you're alone with your buddy and he asks you what you think, and looks at you intensely, and you have to fake positivity because you don't really want to lie, so you make up awkward compliments?

Here's what the hockey version of that looks like:











And my absolute favorite:
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Sounds like you have a lot of experience with insufferable idiots
 
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