Kudo Shinichi
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Doesn't make sense to do this. They are in the semi-finals, so not the time to try experiments.
Prospect Info: Joshua Roy Part 2
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Doesn't make sense to do this. They are in the semi-finals, so not the time to try experiments.
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lolYou see, Bergy saved himself the time by building farm teams that just didnt make the playoffs
I believe that Roy is talented enough to have an impact right away in the AHL, not so sure about Kidney, he's more of a long term project.
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Roy is already better then half those guys
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There's no way I see any of Riley or Roy play. At all. Unless....we are being ridiculized and behind 3-0 in games. You might see a Condotta sit that one. Or guys that the organization know won't be back next year.
Physically, there's no way that I see Kidney being ready. Kid has a lot of gym to do this summer.
Physically, there's no way that I see Kidney being ready. Kid has a lot of gym to do this summer.
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Maybe Roy. MAYBE. if the offense isn't getting the job done, i could see it after 2 games maybe.
Otherwise, they will keep working with the guys who brought them here. Rightfully so, despite what people who don't care about the team think.
Otherwise, they will keep working with the guys who brought them here. Rightfully so, despite what people who don't care about the team think.
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I highly doubt that. It's not about talent, it's about experience. There is a huge gap between playing junior hockey and playing ahl playoffs hockey.
That is a 100% fair point but there are some kids who can make the jump and I get the feeling Roy wouldn't look out of place.
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That group brought them where they are. Unless you have an extraordinairy talent à la Price, you don't just come in and push the guys out of the lineup. There's already 2 regulars out there that are sitting like Beaudin and Roy.
I have no problem to think he wouldn't. I agree. But it's a little more than that. Actually, based on where I thin this series is going, I wouldn't be surprised to see him.
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Who are those players that went from playing CHL hockey to playing their first nhl game in the playoffs in the same year? It will be a very small list, and even shorter if you only include those that were 18 years old.
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Maybe Robertson in Toronto last season. But the kid stayed in the AHL this season.
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I wish they'd play him and Kidney.. it's hard to care about the Laval run outside of a few guys. Martel, Dea and Abbadanato who cares.
They had some every year, but it's highly dependent on the AHL team success vs the prospects' team and the amount of CHL drafted players. Considering how the AHL team did under Bergevin, it's not exactly surprising you don't remember. If your AHL team doesn't make the PO, pretty much only the players from CHL who also don't make the PO can join.
2013: Archambault, Vail, Hudon
2014: Vail, Crisp
2015: Bozon, Lernout
2016: Audette, Bourque, Addison
2017: Juulsen
2018: Felhaber (undrafted, unsigned)
2019: Brook, Struthers (undrafted, unsigned)
2020 and 2021 are weird due to Covid.
What is the mission of the farm team? To develop players. A great opportunity to teach a young kid the pressures of playoff hockey at the pro level.
Yes I want to win, 100% but the reason this league exists is to allow young players the chance to develop for the NHL.
In 2007 Yann Danis was the goalie throughout the entire year and he didn't play one minute in the playoffs, Gainey wanted them to play Carey Price
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Kudo Shinichi
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Houle already said that they had 70 games to focus on developing the player, but now that they are in the playoffs, winning is more important.
Had the Hamilton Bulldogs thought that way in 2007 Price would have ridden the pine.
Every coach and management manage differently.
Myself I want to win first and foremost but I think a supremely talented player like Roy would be able to keep up...just my 2 cents.
It will be a shame if he sees no game action.
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Price got to play 2 regular season games before the playoffs to show what he could do.
If Roy had that chance, then things could be different.
Price was a better goalie than Danis at that point though.
Are Roy or Kidney better players than the Laval top-6 (or even top-9) right now? Consider the physical maturity, not just actual talent.
This is especially important now that we're up against a big D team. Their smallest D is a 28 years old 6' grown man (who played some NHL).
Roy has more chances to get in games because he is physically closer, but even then it depends how he does in team practice.
I could see something like if the team starts losing:
Harvey-Pinard - Dea - Ylonen
Roy -Paquette-Belzile
Bourque-Abbandonato-Martel
Gignac -Schnarr-Teasdale/Condotta
I must say, I love the way Roy and Kidney have been handled so far under the new management. Light and day! Even if they don't play (and I hope they do) they'll have a chance to experience the cup run and the Rocket and Habs can get a glimpse at where they are in their development in practice. Smart moves!
Yeah. Aside from Ylonen, there's nothing entertaining about watching a bunch of lifetime AHLers and other plugs like Paquette, win or lose, playoffs or not. You want to fully commit to development, you play Roy. If he struggles because of physicality and speed, then it'll give him firsthand experience and motivation to train hard in the summer. A guy like him needs to have experiential "reminders" to optimise motivation and commitment.
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On the other hand, it isn’t fair to claim you want to develop a sense of organizational excellence and then not reward the players who got your AHL team deep into the playoffs and running. I think this is the kind of culture move that can backfire.
Roy will play if there is a possibility for it but the Rocket would be insulting their top6 players if they suddenly scratched them for him. Comparing Roy with Carey Price is unfair to both players.
