Player Discussion Josh Norris C 6’1” - Part 2

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aragorn

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Maybe, they've played what, 2.5 games together so far including the pre-season? We'll see how Brassard holds up once he's out there against teams like the Leafs, Tampa and Florida. I'm sure he can hold it down for a few weeks. But for an entire season? I'm skeptical.

It's easy to see a scenario where Pinto gets moved up to the 2nd line, and if that happens, Brassard isn't a good fit for the bottom 6 and we'd probably want to upgrade on Gambrell if we want to stay in the playoff race.

We also have 76 games left. Chances are, we'll lose another C at some point, so the team has to plan with that in mind. If we're ever in a situation where 3/4 of our centers are Brassard, Kastelic and Gambrell, even for a short stretch, that's not great.
That's exactly my point, Brassard doesn't need to play for the entire season & I doubt anyone thinks he will. He also doesn't need to play against the other team's best players all the time although in the short term I don't see it as a problem since he has been playing against them his whole career. He just has to hold the fort for as long as he can & when it is shown he needs a rest they can move the chess pieces around until he is rested & ready to play again.

He is 35 yrs old afterall & a temporary placeholder, luckily Ott has depth at centre this yr. Gambrell, Motte, Giroux, Joseph & Kelly have all played centre at one point or another & this is not including the centres they have in Belleville. Hopefully, it doesn't become an injury epidemic like last yr.
 

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wtf is up with our players and shoulder injuries...

Might want to reassess our strength programming or something.

This really sucks.
I highly doubt it has anything to do with their training. Just a couple of freak coincidental occurrences. Norris was the fittest guy on the team
 

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That's exactly my point, Brassard doesn't need to play for the entire season & I doubt anyone thinks he will. He also doesn't need to play against the other team's best players all the time although in the short term I don't see it as a problem since he has been playing against them his whole career. He just has to hold the fort for as long as he can & when it is shown he needs a rest they can move the chess pieces around until he is rested & ready to play again.

He is 35 yrs old afterall & a temporary placeholder, luckily Ott has depth at centre this yr. Gambrell, Motte, Giroux, Joseph & Kelly have all played centre at one point or another & this is not including the centres they have in Belleville. Hopefully, it doesn't become an injury epidemic like last yr.

Gambrell sucks.
Motte, Joseph and Kelly are not NHL centers.
There's no one in Belleville ready to come up.

Giroux can move, but I fully expect us to add someone to the mix. It's only been 6 games but there's a lot of momentum for this team, already. Dorion has cap room, budget, and lots of assets. He's not going to sit on his hands after the offseason he just had. He's always been one of the most active GMs in the league, and I doubt that changes.
 
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Gambrell sucks.
Motte, Joseph and Kelly are not NHL centers.
There's no one in Belleville ready to come up.

Giroux can move, but I fully expect us to add someone to the mix.
They are all placeholders who have played centre that could replace someone temporarily with Brassard being the best of them. I expect that if Brassard doesn't work out they could go looking to boost that spot at some point, but I expect they will try a number of different things first. It all depends if they can continue to win consistently with him in their lineup whether they start looking to replace him or not.
 
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Gambrell sucks.
Motte, Joseph and Kelly are not NHL centers.
There's no one in Belleville ready to come up.

Giroux can move, but I fully expect us to add someone to the mix. It's only been 6 games but there's a lot of momentum for this team, already. Dorion has cap room, budget, and lots of assets. He's not going to sit on his hands after the offseason he just had. He's always been one of the most active GMs in the league, and I doubt that changes.
Pretty sure motte is a center
 

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Crushing news.

I have no doubt Pinto can fill that role perfectly. Really hoping Formenton isn't guilty, would salvage our forward groups big time.

Tkachuk-Stutzle-Batherson
DeBrincat-Pinto-Giroux
Formenton-Motte-Joseph

Still very strong, imo.
 

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Crushing news.

I have no doubt Pinto can fill that role perfectly. Really hoping Formenton isn't guilty, would salvage our forward groups big time.

Tkachuk-Stutzle-Batherson
DeBrincat-Pinto-Giroux
Formenton-Motte-Joseph

Still very strong, imo.
Tkachuk-Stutzle-Batherson
DeBrincat-Giroux-Formenton
Motte-Pinto-Joseph
 
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He's a winger, hence why he's playing wing here like he did in New York and Vancouver. He's taken just 152 faceoffs in the last 5 years.

Yeah, he's a winger.

I'm betting the org stays put and sees if Brass/Pinto can hold the fort for this year.
 

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Gambrell sucks.
Motte, Joseph and Kelly are not NHL centers.
There's no one in Belleville ready to come up.

Giroux can move, but I fully expect us to add someone to the mix. It's only been 6 games but there's a lot of momentum for this team, already. Dorion has cap room, budget, and lots of assets. He's not going to sit on his hands after the offseason he just had. He's always been one of the most active GMs in the league, and I doubt that changes.
Dorion signed Gambrell and Brassard over the summer as backups in case of injuries. Those two players will fill the center role during Norris's downtime.

Dorion has sat on his hands and made bad moves during the down times so I am not confident he will make good moves just because the team is doing better at this time.

Tkachuk-Stutzle-Batherson
DeBrincat-Giroux-Formenton
Motte-Pinto-Joseph
Yes I want Formenton back soon too.
 
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Typical Senators luck... Big blow to our lineup and chances for the playoffs... :rant:
It might work out alright.

Acquiring a guy like Toews to fill the hole would cost less in real dollars than what insurance should cover for Norris. If we were to pick up Toews, then make the playoffs, Norris could be back for the post season a la Kucherov. So at least in theory, we could save money, while adding to the roster.

I don't think it works out that way, but essentially we have about 4 mil in insurance payout to replace Norris with a rental. Alternatively we can try and make playoffs replacing him internally and bank that money for the future. Well have to see how Brassard does, but maybe if he works well we can put the savings to a RHD
 
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It's not the end of the world guys, Sens are deep at forward, I means Tampa 2 years ago were able to make the playoffs without Kucherov, there's two ways to look at injuries either it becomes an excuse or it becomes a motivation. Sens still have a very good team even without Norris. They'll be fine.
 

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Naming a replacement center is the easy part. Indicating who you would move to get the trade done is the hard part.

Would a "find a guy at all/any cost" be the right move? That would be the obvious question that needs to be asked.

Taking it a step further in this direction, is Toews a better option than giving Pinto more time as a 2C and filling in from within?
I don’t think it’s wise to acquire anyone until there is clarity on Norris. If he looks like he will be back for the playoffs then try internal replacements,
 

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I would take full advantage and Kucherovize Norris
Vegas and Tampa would 100%
League is about winning and no one will gift us anything
We've been taken advantage of for years because we had no money (insert 2nd round draft picksssssss)
Bring someone else with the money saved
Kane, O'reilly, Horvat, Meier or else
 
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