Player Discussion Josh Norris (C) 6’-1” - Part 3

[Tuna99]

Having Pinto back creates depth. Put Norris at 3rd center if you want Pinto on the secind line.

I think the fact that Pinto takes the harder matchup is a key to our success, it’s like the opposition gets weaker in the top 6 because of Pinto’s defensive play and our team gets stronger in the top 6 because Norris gets an easier matchup especially in offensive zone face offs.

Expect big things from Norris now that Pinto is back, the ice will open up a bit for that entire line

 

[PlayOn]

Norris had a killer game tonight. Him and Brady have been great together.

 

[bicboi64]

Norris had a killer game tonight. Him and Brady have been great together.

Chuck Norris duo is going to cause some damage this year. They were both fantastic last night

 

[OD99]

Chuck Norris duo is going to cause some damage this year. They were both fantastic last night

I want to see Batherson back with them.

Stu with G and Greig could be good

 

[Bjornar Moxnes]

I want to see Batherson back with them.

Stu with G and Greig could be good

Yeah and move giroux back to rw and Greig on lw.

 

[Dionysus]

I want to see Batherson back with them.

Stu with G and Greig could be good

I've been liking Stu and Bath together. Two most talented forwards, who can think the game at a high level. Play well off the rush and cycle. G complements them well with his smarts, and faceoff ability.

Norris and Chucky with Grieg have good sandpaper and straight line games.

 

[OD99]

I've been liking Stu and Bath together. Two most talented forwards, who can think the game at a high level. Play well off the rush and cycle. G complements them well with his smarts, and faceoff ability.

Norris and Chucky with Grieg have good sandpaper and straight line games.

Yes, I don't mind either line.

I am curious if the Tkachuk Norris Bath line can find their previous chemistry and give us a truly dominant line.

The Stu line would be a pain in the ass and competent offensively.

Just spitballing.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

I've been liking Stu and Bath together. Two most talented forwards, who can think the game at a high level. Play well off the rush and cycle. G complements them well with his smarts, and faceoff ability.

Norris and Chucky with Grieg have good sandpaper and straight line games.

Both lines have been playing well. Just sever lack of finish.

I would tinker with the lines. Unless we can get a serious replacement for Greig

 

[Micklebot]

Both lines have been playing well. Just sever lack of finish.

I would tinker with the lines. Unless we can get a serious replacement for Greig

For a team with a severe lack of finish, we're still 13th league wide in goals per game...

All kidding aside, scoring has really dropped off in Nov, we were 3rd at the end of October, PP has really cooled off and needs to be better, and 5v5 hasn't faired much better. Ups and downs will happen, the underlying numbers for scoring are actually better in Nov,

5v5 (NST)

xGF/60

xGA/60

xGF%

SCF/60

SCA/60

SCF%

HDCF/60

HDCA/60

HDCF%

SH%

SV%

PDO

Nov

2.6​

1.71​

60.33​

30.15​

23.18​

56.53​

10.05​

6.65​

60.19​

5.53​

89.71​

0.952​

Oct

2.37​

2.46​

49.05​

24.57​

28.02​

46.72​

8.14​

10.77​

43.07​

8.81​

89.6​

0.984​

 

[Burrowsaurus]

For a team with a severe lack of finish, we're still 13th league wide in goals per game...

All kidding aside, scoring has really dropped off in Nov, we were 3rd at the end of October, PP has really cooled off and needs to be better, and 5v5 hasn't faired much better. Ups and downs will happen, the underlying numbers for scoring are actually better in Nov,

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[TR]
[TD]5v5 (NST)[/TD]
[TD]xGF/60[/TD]
[TD]xGA/60[/TD]
[TD]xGF%[/TD]
[TD]SCF/60[/TD]
[TD]SCA/60[/TD]
[TD]SCF%[/TD]
[TD]HDCF/60[/TD]
[TD]HDCA/60[/TD]
[TD]HDCF%[/TD]
[TD]SH%[/TD]
[TD]SV%[/TD]
[TD]PDO[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Nov[/TD]

[TD]

2.6​

[/TD]

[TD]

1.71​

[/TD]

[TD]

60.33​

[/TD]

[TD]

30.15​

[/TD]

[TD]

23.18​

[/TD]

[TD]

56.53​

[/TD]

[TD]

10.05​

[/TD]

[TD]

6.65​

[/TD]

[TD]

60.19​

[/TD]

[TD]

5.53​

[/TD]

[TD]

89.71​

[/TD]

[TD]

0.952​

[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Oct[/TD]

[TD]

2.37​

[/TD]

[TD]

2.46​

[/TD]

[TD]

49.05​

[/TD]

[TD]

24.57​

[/TD]

[TD]

28.02​

[/TD]

[TD]

46.72​

[/TD]

[TD]

8.14​

[/TD]

[TD]

10.77​

[/TD]

[TD]

43.07​

[/TD]

[TD]

8.81​

[/TD]

[TD]

89.6​

[/TD]

[TD]

0.984​

[/TD]
[/TR]
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The team play has been great. No arguments there.

 

[Micklebot]

The team play has been great. No arguments there.

That sh% number really stands out.

Lets assume we've overhyped the talent level on the team, even if that's true, a sh% of 5.53 in Nov is third worst in the league. I doubt very much that will continue. of note, Toronto is 2nd worst at 5.23%, so teams with talent can have their struggles too.

We should probably be around 8%, +/- 1%. That's about another 5 goals (5v5) over the 8 games we played in Nov if we're just shooting at an expected sh%.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

That sh% number really stands out.

Lets assume we've overhyped the talent level on the team, even if that's true, a sh% of 5.53 in Nov is third worst in the league. I doubt very much that will continue. of note, Toronto is 2nd worst at 5.23%, so teams with talent can have their struggles too.

We should probably be around 8%, +/- 1%. That's about another 5 goals (5v5) over the 8 games we played in Nov if we're just shooting at an expected sh%.

Expected. Expected why. Cuz that’s league average?

I don’t even feel like we’ve been hitting posts lately. Our guys simply cannot beat goalies regularly.

 

[Micklebot]

Expected. Expected why. Cuz that’s league average?

I don’t even feel like we’ve been hitting posts lately. Our guys simply cannot beat goalies regularly.

It's actually a bit below average (8.76). Last year, with mostly the same players (at least the same core guys) we were at 8.36%. The year before that we were 7.49 and before that 7.58

Expected because 5.53 is extremely low. Expected because we are getting the quality looks, this isn't a case of a team shooting from the perimeter.

 

[OD99]

Expected. Expected why. Cuz that’s league average?

I don’t even feel like we’ve been hitting posts lately. Our guys simply cannot beat goalies regularly.

Most of our top 6 has a history of scoring goals. Sometimes the team can be in a slump.

We could also be putting more pucks on net from less desirable areas. At the end of the day, we aren't scoring enough, consistently, and personally, I think we need more rebound goals.

We don't get enough 2nd and 3rd whacks at pucks right now.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

Most of our top 6 has a history of scoring goals. Sometimes the team can be in a slump.

We could also be putting more pucks on net from less desirable areas. At the end of the day, we aren't scoring enough, consistently, and personally, I think we need more rebound goals.

We don't get enough 2nd and 3rd whacks at pucks right now.

We are creating scoring chances. Not a ridiculous rate. But.

Tkatchuk has a very particular skill set.

Norris is a quick one timer guy.

We don’t have a pure goalscorer on this team and our depth has a history of not scoring AT ALL outside of pinto who is playing with no offensive talent

 

[OD99]

They certainly don't look like they can score right now.

What a pathetic effort.

 

[Tuna99]

I like Norris and I like his maturity.

But as of today, Brian Mcgratton has done more for this franchise then Josh Norris has.

Mcgratton played 130 games from Ottawa , Norris has played 200 almost all on the top PP unit.

And Brain Mcgratton has still done more for this franchise, that’s how little impact this team makes.

 

[sena]

We are creating scoring chances. Not a ridiculous rate. But.

Tkatchuk has a very particular skill set.

Norris is a quick one timer guy.

We don’t have a pure goalscorer on this team and our depth has a history of not scoring AT ALL outside of pinto who is playing with no offensive talent

They need a setup guy and are one top six short of a full team

 

[Burrowsaurus]

They need a setup guy and are one top six short of a full team

They need a star. A true number two next to stutzle. Tkatchuk is not that guy.

 

[Relapsing]

Argh! Norris, he did something bad tonight, really bone headed move to throw the puck up the middle for a turnover. I'm so dang angry about it I could just... Well... Clench my fists I tell ya. Ball them right up and shake em a little. So. Mad. At. Him.

Please just go with it, some folks in the Brady thread are really putting the screws to me about not pointing out Norris' bad play in a thread that isn't about him

 

[mysens]

I have to credit him tonight for playing with a bit of an edge, more so than usual. I just am not sure why he cannot set up for his one-timers. He seems to always not be in his opportune shooting lane.

 

[Relapsing]

I have to credit him tonight for playing with a bit of an edge, more so than usual. I just am not sure why he cannot set up for his one-timers. He seems to always not be in his opportune shooting lane.

I wonder how many game minutes has passed since his last one timer? Maybe it's a case of forgetting how to set up for it, or maybe he lost some mobility that's affecting a big wind up so he's not trying?

Wait, no, those are excuses! Sorry, I'm supposed to be critical, shit. Maybe it's because he's an idiot.

 

[Micklebot]

I wonder how many game minutes has passed since his last one timer? Maybe it's a case of forgetting how to set up for it, or maybe he lost some mobility that's affecting a big wind up so he's not trying?

Wait, no, those are excuses! Sorry, I'm supposed to be critical, shit. Maybe it's because he's an idiot.

He had a one time attempt last night, it was just off the mark (heeled it into the corner if I recall)

 

[Relapsing]

He had a one time attempt last night, it was just off the mark (heeled it into the corner if I recall)

I noticed that too. Man I miss him being lethal from there.

I don't know how he's gonna get his mojo back, but it sure would be nice to have him return to being a consistent scoring threat from his office

 

[Loach]

I think he looked good last night. Looked like he knew the night and tried to do his part.