Player Discussion Jonathan Drouin - Part 5

[Fainting Couch]

Oh no! The "bad influence" who is "hated by his teammates" strikes again!

 

[KFlint]

Jean-Charles can also f off.

Probably spent the whole of the weekend going back and forth with Flynn.

J-C is terrible, he had Jake Evans as an untouchable, enough said…

 

[StCaufield]

He's been treated fine lmao this fake drouin outrage is insane. The guy was put in every position to succeed imaginable. Its on him bro not on the fans , like I can't believe people really think Drouin is mistreated or something lol.

What players has he even had to play with lol. Ripping on someone for their anxiety or depression is mistreating anyone weather they read it or hear it or not. As a fan of the team and as someone who also suffers from the same thing I take offence. It’s not just about Jo when people resort to that or wishing injuries. It’s pathetic as I though humans generally know they shouldn’t do that

 

[BLONG7]

Jean-Charles not happy the way MSL handled the Drou-Drou situation...so predictable lol.

https://www.tvasports.ca/2023/03/20/cest-une-erreur-de-recrue-de-martin-st-louis

Normand Flynn's cousin?

 

[Catanddogguitarrr]

There is Rejean Tremblay with Drouin Unessary Humiliation in JdM.

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2023/03/20/jonathan-drouin-une-humiliation-insensee

Not often but I agre with him this time. It was an unnessary humiliation, it could have been resolved anothey way, out of the cameras. The medias are way too important about this sport, everything is blowned out of proportion. Why humiliate a player who suffured mental depression? Drouin have 17 more games to play for the Habs and after bye-bye. That wasn't the best public relation done by the Habs. They could have been more professional.

 

[Runner77]

Jean-Charles not happy the way MSL handled the Drou-Drou situation...so predictable lol.

https://www.tvasports.ca/2023/03/20/cest-une-erreur-de-recrue-de-martin-st-louis

I just watched that clip. JiC was very complimentary about how Marty handled the situation and argued that the Habs have been very protective of Drouin and did not deserve what he did.

 

[Catanddogguitarrr]

I just watched that clip. JiC was very complimentary about how Marty handled the situation and argued that the Habs have been very protective of Drouin and did not deserve what he did.

I agree with JiC most of the time. Even if I disagree, JiC brings logical arguments. His voice and way of pronouncing remains me old school priest but that's just me. It can be explained where he comes from, some places in Qc roll the r that way.

 

[the]

I just watched that clip. JiC was very complimentary about how Marty handled the situation and argued that the Habs have been very protective of Drouin and did not deserve what he did.

Thanks for bringing it up. I just read the story and didn’t watch the clip. After watching the clip, I agree that Jean-Charles is complimentary and the write-up was misleading.

 

[Runner77]

I agree with JiC most of the time. Even if I disagree, JiC brings logical arguments. His voice and way of pronouncing remains me old school priest but that's just me. It can be explained where he comes from, some places in Qc roll the r that way.

I enjoy JiC, I’ll catch him either on Spanre or on BPM. He’s interesting as long as he sticks to sports and doesn’t wander off into politics. I feel the same about any other sports show host — I want my sports fix to be a diversion and not a reminder of toxic stuff best left to newspeople and political pundits.

 

[Catanddogguitarrr]

It’s inevitable that the local media would be highly sympathetic to Drouin. If you evaluate their options you’d see they don’t have any other card to play. It’s drama, and this season has been lacking on-ice or performance-related drama and entertainment… so they have hot takes about whatever they can muster.

Don’t read into it too much

No they are not sympathetic about Drouin. Not on that link with JiC. Drouin is handled rudely by JiC, except JiC says Habs could have done it differently, not creating that drama crisis, etc. Watch the link, there is nothing wrong said by JiC and Marinello. It's a delicate subject and they both handled it correctly.

 

[Habs]

There is Rejean Tremblay with Drouin Unessary Humiliation in JdM.

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2023/03/20/jonathan-drouin-une-humiliation-insensee

Not often but I agre with him this time. It was an unnessary humiliation, it could have been resolved anothey way, out of the cameras. The medias are way too important about this sport, everything is blowned out of proportion. Why humiliate a player who suffured mental depression? Drouin have 17 more games to play for the Habs and after bye-bye. That wasn't the best public relation done by the Habs. They could have been more professional.

why do you care so much? Let it go, don't get attached to athletes, they really don't care about you either

 

[Kojo]

This comment is going far . Too far .

It kinda sucks to see so many comments like these.

Also if they don't like it why are they even watching it?

 

[BaseballCoach]

Renaud Lavoie: "but these other guys did it too!"

Renaud Lavoie reveals the identity of three other players who broke the team rules

As you know, yesterday, Quebecois forward Jonathan Drouin missed a team meeting and was therefore punished by his head coach Martin St-Louis.

www.habsfanatics.com

f***ing Quebec media man.

Lavoie did his job as a journalist.

I get how it is tempting to shoot at Quebec prominent personalities, pundits and politicians, given how this is the only place in the Western world where prejudice is not just tolerated but DEMANDED .... but it's still wrong to attack people based on the group you put them in.

Again, Lavoie did his job reporting, good for him.

 

[HuGort]

10 games left!! At the max. And biggest mistake in Habs 110 year history be gone. He'll probably spend them riding the pines

 

[SlafySZN]

There is Rejean Tremblay with Drouin Unessary Humiliation in JdM.

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2023/03/20/jonathan-drouin-une-humiliation-insensee

Not often but I agre with him this time. It was an unnessary humiliation, it could have been resolved anothey way, out of the cameras. The medias are way too important about this sport, everything is blowned out of proportion. Why humiliate a player who suffured mental depression? Drouin have 17 more games to play for the Habs and after bye-bye. That wasn't the best public relation done by the Habs. They could have been more professional.

You know damn well they would not have been able to sort it out off camera with all the medias and journalists who wants to know what each players does every hour of the day. They would’ve scratched Drouin from practice and 1000 journalists would have asked them what’s happening with joe? Is he injured? No? So what is it, etc…

Plus it’s very ironic coming from a man like Tremblay who constantly tried to humiliate people himself with his articles over the years.

 

[nhlfan9191]

I feel like Carey's technical abilities were often conflated with his performances. Because he could dominate to the point of intimidating the opposing team, and he got a pass for bad goaltending thanks to that.

His career was mostly ups and downs. Sometimes because the team in front of him sucked, sometimes because he just couldn't stop a beachball for long stretches, and sometimes both.

Gainey and Bergevin mostly built teams that could collapse, block shots and avoid breakaways and odd man rushes because of minimal risk taking offensively. Carey benefited from that to a certain extent. The year he won all the trophies he did carry the team though. Some years he flat out sucked, allowing multiple bad goals on a nightly basis, but the team sucking kinda masked that.

Most guys who are deemed all star goalies have the same irregularity. Guys like Lundqvist and Rask were just more consistent performance wise. But none of them peaked like Carey did.

Rask never played for teams that were half as bad as the Canadiens were from 2017-2022. Boston always had good to strong teams during his entire tenure. And Lundqvist is a first ballot HOFer who a lot of people would put ahead of Price. A lot of Price’s inconsistencies came after Bergevin nuked the team in the summer of 2017. That and his injuries were adding up in his 30’s. But everyone around him still knew who he was. Crosby said Price was the goaltender teams feared the most in a playoff series and following that comment he led a 24th place Habs team past the Penguins and carried complete dog shit to a SCF. A certain section of this fanbase likes to pretend he’s Jose Theodore. Look at his list of achievements outside of just that 2015 season to see that’s not even close to the case.

 

[ReHabs]

What players has he even had to play with lol. Ripping on someone for their anxiety or depression is mistreating anyone weather they read it or hear it or not. As a fan of the team and as someone who also suffers from the same thing I take offence. It’s not just about Jo when people resort to that or wishing injuries. It’s pathetic as I though humans generally know they shouldn’t do that

If you want his mental health to be accepted as freely as physical health, then you have to accept that when he’s dressed he is considered healthy.

It cannot be that every fan has to forgive and excuse Drouin’s underperformance on the grounds that Drouin’s game might be afflicted with mental health issues. If it is the case then he shouldn’t be dressed and shouldn’t be playing.

On the other hand it is obviously correct to be sensitive to the humanity of a player, mental health or not, but I’ve asked you a few times to demonstrate your position that Drouin’s been badly treated and you haven’t.

I don’t think Drouin has been badly treated at all. I think the media and fans have been in his corner all along and especially during his absence in 2021. The amount of sensitivity people had for Drouin’s mental health break was over the top, in fact. We didn’t get a single update about him during the most consequential playoff series in the last thirty years… and fans accepted it without lashing out.

Take a step back and you’ll see he’s been treated fairly.

And in return, can you name five highlights from his time as a Hab?

 

[Non Player Canadiens]

And in return, can you name five highlights from his time as a Hab?

I can't even remember 5 goals of his. Struggling to remember even one.

 

[BenchBrawl]

The tyranny of "hard work" and "character" rearing its ugly head again.

Seems no coach is able to escape it.

I support Drouin.

 

[Tanknation]

I haven’t seen one person say he never got a fair chance. He’s simply a .58 career PPG player and I’m fine with that. Y’all talk as if he’s .25 PPG. Remember though he’s French and we need to make sure that we treat our French players like garbage and make sure they’re miserable. Next up: RHP when he signs a nice contract

Actually most of the French guys get to big of a leash here and that's why people also get more pissy. Rightfully so though. Remember Desharnais.

 

[Sasha Orlov]

I haven’t seen one person say he never got a fair chance. He’s simply a .58 career PPG player and I’m fine with that. Y’all talk as if he’s .25 PPG. Remember though he’s French and we need to make sure that we treat our French players like garbage and make sure they’re miserable. Next up: RHP when he signs a nice contract

Bro lives in the bizarro world

 

[rik schau]

Caught the news in the wind,classless move imo. Not in favor of intentional public humiliation,could have,should have been dealt with in a more appropriate manner.Late for a team meeting in a season that is almost done,big woop,not like there was gonna be an epiphany or some sort of revelation,not a matter of life or death. Might not help entice UFA's or players willing to waive their NMC or NTC,shows lack of respect to a veteran player.But what's done is done.
Interesting though that the media was all over it,yet try to pry some intel out pertaining to the plague of injuries and it like a highly confidential CIA black ops mission.lol.

 

[StCaufield]

If you want his mental health to be accepted as freely as physical health, then you have to accept that when he’s dressed he is considered healthy.

It cannot be that every fan has to forgive and excuse Drouin’s underperformance on the grounds that Drouin’s game might be afflicted with mental health issues. If it is the case then he shouldn’t be dressed and shouldn’t be playing.

On the other hand it is obviously correct to be sensitive to the humanity of a player, mental health or not, but I’ve asked you a few times to demonstrate your position that Drouin’s been badly treated and you haven’t.

I don’t think Drouin has been badly treated at all. I think the media and fans have been in his corner all along and especially during his absence in 2021. The amount of sensitivity people had for Drouin’s mental health break was over the top, in fact. We didn’t get a single update about him during the most consequential playoff series in the last thirty years… and fans accepted it without lashing out.

Take a step back and you’ll see he’s been treated fairly.

And in return, can you name five highlights from his time as a Hab?

I can’t name 5 from anyone on this team

 

[BLONG7]

I can’t name 5 from anyone on this team

Suzuki's hi lite reels in the shoot outs have been about all we have these days.
Price's miracle clips are done..............let's hope Caufield and Dach help us out with some nice stuff.
And the Bedard guy sure would help!

 

[Catanddogguitarrr]

You know damn well they would not have been able to sort it out off camera with all the medias and journalists who wants to know what each players does every hour of the day. They would’ve scratched Drouin from practice and 1000 journalists would have asked them what’s happening with joe? Is he injured? No? So what is it, etc…

Plus it’s very ironic coming from a man like Tremblay who constantly tried to humiliate people himself with his articles over the years.

That's part of the problem with this team who gets 80% of all pro sport attention. That wasn't the end of the world, what's done is done. Habs management would have been criticized anyway, as we say, damned if they do, damned if they don't.