Value of: Marcus Pettersson.

M2Beezy

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I agree with the OP that linking M Pettersson to Vancouver makes a lot of sense. And Vancouver has the pieces that I can see the Pens wanting:

To Pittsburgh: Hoglander, Aman, Forbort, Briesbois, 2027 6th round

To Vancouver: M Pettersson, 2025 5th round pick
 

Empoleon8771

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I agree with the OP that linking M Pettersson to Vancouver makes a lot of sense. And Vancouver has the pieces that I can see the Pens wanting:

To Pittsburgh: Hoglander, Aman, Forbort, Briesbois, 2027 6th round

To Vancouver: M Pettersson, 2025 5th round pick

Literally why would the Penguins do this

Hoglander and a 2nd.

I don't think they'd go for Hoglander with his contract and production tbh
 
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Empoleon8771

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I'm not a huge fan of the player however his contract is perfectly fine for a middle six 35 point forward.

But why would a rebuilding team (or should be rebuilding team) like the Penguins be interested in that?

The simplest deal is Elias Pettersson (D prospect) and a 2nd for Marcus Pettersson. Fills a big need for Vancouver and gives the Penguins a good prospect replacement.
 

Diamonddog01

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But why would a rebuilding team (or should be rebuilding team) like the Penguins be interested in that?

The simplest deal is Elias Pettersson (D prospect) and a 2nd for Marcus Pettersson. Fills a big need for Vancouver and gives the Penguins a good prospect replacement.

Sure, that's fine too. It was more because of Dubas' quote. Apart from Willander or Lekkermaki I'd add any Canucks prospect to a 1st for Petterson.
 

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But why would a rebuilding team (or should be rebuilding team) like the Penguins be interested in that?

The simplest deal is Elias Pettersson (D prospect) and a 2nd for Marcus Pettersson. Fills a big need for Vancouver and gives the Penguins a good prospect replacement.

Why would a rebuilding team dilute Jake Guentzel's trade value for what they got?
 
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Avs need him. CDH/Kylington/Ludvig not the best on the 3rd pairing, and Toews is labouring. Coach even said Toews will be taking maintenance days here and there. If it wasn't for Four Nations Cup, he'd go for surgery now I think.

Pettersson for Kylington + Rangers 2nd + prospect(s)/picks
 

biturbo19

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Why would a rebuilding team dilute Jake Guentzel's trade value for what they got?

Yeah. I think the realistic answer to this is...they're not really rebuilding. I very much doubt that was what was pitched to Crosby and Co. I don't think that ownership group including Mario would allow them to just deliberately throw away the final years of his buddy Crosby's career like that.


It's far more likely to be a "retooling attempt". Which i think almost certainly impacts the type of return Dubas is mandated with looking for in a Pettersson trade, or really anything he does here.
 

Honour Over Glory

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I agree with the OP that linking M Pettersson to Vancouver makes a lot of sense. And Vancouver has the pieces that I can see the Pens wanting:

To Pittsburgh: Hoglander, Aman, Forbort, Briesbois, 2027 6th round

To Vancouver: M Pettersson, 2025 5th round pick
So you say the pieces the Pens would want and then immediately list a lot of what they wouldn't?

Hoglander I think would be on that list. Forbort as well for cap reasons. But Aman? No. Absolutely not Brisebois either and a 6th rounder? That's a truly garbage return.

Avs need him. CDH/Kylington/Ludvig not the best on the 3rd pairing, and Toews is labouring. Coach even said Toews will be taking maintenance days here and there. If it wasn't for Four Nations Cup, he'd go for surgery now I think.

Pettersson for Kylington + Rangers 2nd + prospect(s)/picks
I'd rather do this. Depends on what the prospect is but I'd also make that a conditional 1st if Pettersson re-signs, if not, then that Rangers 2nd.
 

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I'm not a huge fan of the player however his contract is perfectly fine for a middle six 35 point forward.
Which is fine to a contender. But a team looking to rebuild and retool, Hoglander isn't worth being the main piece for Pettersson unless it's just a pure cap dump for Lekkerimaki to be a regular and to add at the deadline and sign someone like Pettersson if they could get him.

Hoglander wouldn't be the main piece, I'd chalk him up as a cap dump if the Pens and Nucks are talking and Hoglander's name is involved.

The prospects the canucks would be willing to part with aren't even worth the discussion as we know the untouchables are few and in that pool, for a good reason. It would need to be a guaranteed 1st rounder in that deal to start.
 

Luigi Lemieux

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Dubas gets bent over in every negotiation be it free agency signing, contract extension, or trade. So I'm a little worried about what he's going to actually get back.

But Marcus Pettersson's metrics are much better than the rest of the Pens dmen, despite the team being absolute garbage this year. Like others have said, a 2nd+nhl ready prospect or a 1st is what I'm expecting.
 

LEAFANFORLIFE23

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I agree with the OP that linking M Pettersson to Vancouver makes a lot of sense. And Vancouver has the pieces that I can see the Pens wanting:

To Pittsburgh: Hoglander, Aman, Forbort, Briesbois, 2027 6th round

To Vancouver: M Pettersson, 2025 5th round pick

The OP never said that, I know that because I am the OP
 

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