John Tortorella Named (Part Time) Head Coach Discussion

[Beef Invictus]

A first year coach with a track record of burning bridges in year 3 or 4.... Great thing to look forward to...

Seems like he's skipped right to year 4 because that's what management wants and encourages

 

[ponder719]

Modin had a bomb too. I always used to trade for him in NHL.

Now there's a topic worth digging into. Who was your go-to "fine in real life, Gretzky in NHL" player? Mine was Todd Marchant. Somehow, he could run rings around anyone in the game (not sure I can remember which year it was, want to say '98, but could just be misremembering, since I had basically all of them.)

 

[dragonoffrost]

Now there's a topic worth digging into. Who was your go-to "fine in real life, Gretzky in NHL" player? Mine was Todd Marchant. Somehow, he could run rings around anyone in the game (not sure I can remember which year it was, want to say '98, but could just be misremembering, since I had basically all of them.)

It's not NHL .... It's CHEL

 

[VladDrag]

Now there's a topic worth digging into. Who was your go-to "fine in real life, Gretzky in NHL" player? Mine was Todd Marchant. Somehow, he could run rings around anyone in the game (not sure I can remember which year it was, want to say '98, but could just be misremembering, since I had basically all of them.)

In NHL 98, we found a fluke automatic goal glitch where you would skate down the right wing and dump the puck in. The puck would go over the goalie who would come out to the face off dots for some reason.

You could score 40 goals a game.

 

[dragonoffrost]

Skate into the dot
Spinaroonie
Skate into the slot
Wrister for the goal....

 

[CanadianFlyer88]

In NHL 98, we found a fluke automatic goal glitch where you would skate down the right wing and dump the puck in. The puck would go over the goalie who would come out to the face off dots for some reason.

You could score 40 goals a game.

In NHL 95, I think, you could skate down the wing into the opposition zone and go behind the net, where one of the opposition defensemen would take out his own goalie, leaving an empty net. Every. Single. Time.

It became a contest to see if anyone could crack 100 goals in 5 minute periods, which I don't recall anyone ever doing.

 

[Beef Invictus]

In NHL 95, I think, you could skate down the wing into the opposition zone and go behind the net, where one of the opposition defensemen would take out his own goalie, leaving an empty net. Every. Single. Time.

It became a contest to see if anyone could crack 100 goals in 5 minute periods, which I don't recall anyone ever doing.

Even without making them run dman interference, someone like Lindros or Recchi had the speed to just win a wraparound every single time.

 

[Rich Nixon]

Now there's a topic worth digging into. Who was your go-to "fine in real life, Gretzky in NHL" player? Mine was Todd Marchant. Somehow, he could run rings around anyone in the game (not sure I can remember which year it was, want to say '98, but could just be misremembering, since I had basically all of them.)

My guy, of all players, was Ponikarovsky in like 2008-2011 editions. He was real big and strong but he was also a Ukrainian guy who scored 65 points, so EA seemingly didn't know if they give him big North American meat powers or fancy boy Euroskills, and he ended up with both. You could basically use Ponikarovsky like a prime Lindros.

Nik Antropov was kinda a poor-man's version of that, too, so I was pretty deadly with the 2009 Leafs.

 

[ponder719]

Even without making them run dman interference, someone like Lindros or Recchi had the speed to just win a wraparound every single time.

YES, this. For me, it didn't always work with the wraparound alone, but if you had an agile enough player, continuing back across the crease would cook the goalie every time.

 

[Striiker]

Who's got a Jaroslav Spacek take? I'm here for it.

Would've been the best player in the NHL in 1974.

 

[04hockey]

Would've been the best player in the NHL in 1974.

Orr, Potvin, Robinson..... "HOLD OUR BEERS"

 

[kudymen]

Hoooooood

 

[Tripod]

Hoooooood

John's drunk

 

[Appleyard]

Lindros up the right side, cross-ice pass to LeClair in left circle for a one-timer...

was a total NHL 1999 cheat code. Scored about 40% of the time. Even though taking a cross-body pass aha.

 

[Beef Invictus]

Lindros up the right side, cross-ice pass to LeClair in left circle for a one-timer...

was a total NHL 1999 cheat code. Scored about 40% of the time. Even though taking a cross-body pass aha.

I remember this well. If you turned off line changes and ran with only their line you'd score endlessly.

 

[Flyerfan4life]

just as a FYI do NOT discuss the state of the team/direction on social media..

my god the majority of people there truely deserve this shit franchise...


Torts god Emporer is alive n strong there...

 

[04hockey]

different opinions than hf boarders ? ..... HOW DARE THEY

somebody call HR

 

[Strawberry Fields]

Now there's a topic worth digging into. Who was your go-to "fine in real life, Gretzky in NHL" player? Mine was Todd Marchant. Somehow, he could run rings around anyone in the game (not sure I can remember which year it was, want to say '98, but could just be misremembering, since I had basically all of them.)

I actually first noticed Briere himself because he was shifty and slippery as **** and always potted goals on me when I played against the Sabres in NHL 06. This is when I was first getting into hockey as a kid and that game (and the official guide and record book) were basically how I learned players. Granted he was obviously pretty good in real life too.

In NHL 95, I think, you could skate down the wing into the opposition zone and go behind the net, where one of the opposition defensemen would take out his own goalie, leaving an empty net. Every. Single. Time.

It became a contest to see if anyone could crack 100 goals in 5 minute periods, which I don't recall anyone ever doing.

If you played the easiest level on NHL 2K6, then wraparounds were automatic goals. Not even a smidge of exaggeration. I won a game 97-0 once exploiting that

 

[FLYguy3911]

Now there's a topic worth digging into. Who was your go-to "fine in real life, Gretzky in NHL" player? Mine was Todd Marchant. Somehow, he could run rings around anyone in the game (not sure I can remember which year it was, want to say '98, but could just be misremembering, since I had basically all of them.)

Eric Daze.

 

[prototypical4thliner]

Now there's a topic worth digging into. Who was your go-to "fine in real life, Gretzky in NHL" player? Mine was Todd Marchant. Somehow, he could run rings around anyone in the game (not sure I can remember which year it was, want to say '98, but could just be misremembering, since I had basically all of them.)

Forget any particulars for NHL, but the right defensemen on my bubble hockey table had an unstoppable, seeing eye wrister from the point.

 

[Curufinwe]

Deadspin | John Tortorella, a man never of his time

Deadspin | John Tortorella, a man never of his time

deadspin.com

But in hockey, much like wrestling, no one ever just moves on. Everyone comes back. It can never let go. Some GM or president and owner will see all the bluster and talk and swagger of Tortorella and be mesmerized, and ignore or miss the fact that there’s never been much behind it.

HockeyBuzz.com - Bill Meltzer - Quick Hits: Phantoms Win Game 1, Flyers Daily w/ Tortortella

www.hockeybuzz.com

Tortorella reiterated something he said during the main press conference: he views player/coach (or player/teammate) conflict as a positive as long as it's strictly on a hockey level and not meant as a personal attack. Torts is of the opinion that too many players do not hold teammates accountable nor do they truly want honesty from their coach.Tortorella said the players will get the blunt honesty from him, whether they want it or not. Players who embrace accountability as Tortorella defines it will eventually win him over if their play reflects it.

Those who do not grasp -- or do not accept -- it will be subtracted. Tortorella said that it's not at all a reflection of whether he likes them as people or even if they thinks they are good hockey players individually. Someone could be the right fit for one team mix but not another. His team-building concept's foundation is steeped in building a squad that accepts his version of being acccountable to teammates and the coach.

 

[Young Sandwich]

Deadspin | John Tortorella, a man never of his time

Deadspin | John Tortorella, a man never of his time

deadspin.com

HockeyBuzz.com - Bill Meltzer - Quick Hits: Phantoms Win Game 1, Flyers Daily w/ Tortortella

www.hockeybuzz.com

Tortorella reiterated something he said during the main press conference: he views player/coach (or player/teammate) conflict as a positive as long as it's strictly on a hockey level and not meant as a personal attack. Torts is of the opinion that too many players do not hold teammates accountable nor do they truly want honesty from their coach.Tortorella said the players will get the blunt honesty from him, whether they want it or not. Players who embrace accountability as Tortorella defines it will eventually win him over if their play reflects it.

Those who do not grasp -- or do not accept -- it will be subtracted. Tortorella said that it's not at all a reflection of whether he likes them as people or even if they thinks they are good hockey players individually. Someone could be the right fit for one team mix but not another. His team-building concept's foundation is steeped in building a squad that accepts his version of being acccountable to teammates and the coach.

Yeah, it totally wasn't personal when Torts scratched Frost and Sanheim in front of their friends and family. Classic hockey level business.

 

[TB87]

Yeah, it totally wasn't personal when Torts scratched Frost and Sanheim in front of their friends and family. Classic hockey level business.

Then, this asshole goes on and on tangent about how players are too “goddamn” sensitive now. The Flyers STILL ache for the days of Mike Keenan type coaches. “We need to make our players uncomfortable!”

If I was subjected to this kind of shit at my workplace, I’d f***ing hate my job. Thankfully, I’m not subjected to this kind of bullshit.

 

[Young Sandwich]

Then, this asshole goes on and on tangent about how players are too “goddamn” sensitive now. The Flyers STILL ache for the days of Mike Keenan type coaches. “We need to make our players uncomfortable!”

If I was subjected to this kind of shit at my workplace, I’d f***ing hate my job. Thankfully, I’m not subjected to this kind of bullshit.

Torts wants the players to come to him to talk, since he won't communicate himself. Who the hell wants to constantly walk into their prick boss's office every time you need to ask him why he's f***ing around with you? That's not a recipe for employee success.

 

[deadhead]

No. What Torts said is he prefers to talk to the team, much the way football coaches break down game film with the position group or entire defense. His goal is for the team to self-police, b/c he's learned if he constantly rails on a young kid for mistakes, he gets tuned out. When his teammates see the kid f---g up on a regular basis and costing them games, they'll let him know of their displeasure. Kids tend to respond to criticism from their peers more than from their elders. He wants players to be accountable first and foremost to their teammates, not the coaches.

He also has an open door for any player who wants to discuss matters one on one. But that's to clear the air without an audience.