John Tavares injury

[Embryo]

Great news!!! I feel better now. I always felt bad Tavares couldn't find success with the Islanders and had to leave, he really wanted to win here.

 

[Puckclektr]

It’s a penalty you’re not kicked out which makes it aloud, hence the reason there’s fighters in hockey. Foligno did nothing more than what happens in most games when things like that happen

actually it isn't allowed which is why it is a penalty. The same reason you are not allowed to assault someone and they give you a penalty for it which could be jail. It is just accepted in the NHL. And what Foligno did does not happen in most games. How many times have you seen an injury like that this year alone? I can tell you that injury doesn't happen most games and probably happens less than a few times a year. That looked really bad.

 

[Unspecified]

It’s a penalty you’re not kicked out which makes it aloud, hence the reason there’s fighters in hockey. Foligno did nothing more than what happens in most games when things like that happen

You mean completely overreacting to a situation he himself deemed was no way in hell could be accidental without thinking? k

 

[These Are The Days]

Is there any update on his condition or at least that he was in a hospital as comfortable as he could be? This isn't about hockey anymore. He's probably gonna be okay but that's the kind of moment that affects you for the rest for your life

 

[Puckclektr]

Fighting is an infraction, but it's not banned.

I never said fighting was banned. I said it was against the rules. As is tripping, icing and a a whole lot of other things that are against the rules in the "rulebook" .

 

[DangleCity]

I have a hard time accepting that any pitch hitting someone is genuinely accidental. At the very best its careless.

But what if a defensive play accidentally hit a star player who was running base. Then is this stupid "code" also gets into effect?

It happens, the ball slips or a breaking pitch doesn't break. Situations have arose on the base paths with guys running into each other. My only point is hockey isn't the only sport with a code.

 

[SaintsThomas]

Just give up on trying to portray hockey as unique in this way.

Your baseball example is wrong.

A pitcher is alone, pitch the ball. If he misses so badly that he hits someone seriously, he only has himself to blame.

Perry hit a player in the middle of a fall resulting from another player hit.

 

[SaintsThomas]

It happens, the ball slips or a breaking pitch doesn't break. Situations have arose on the base paths with guys running into each other. My only point is hockey isn't the only sport with a code.

Not saying the pitcher is 100% intentional, but it's not like the pitcher is in the middle of dodging tackles from the opposition that explains why he suddenly f***s up.

 

[NyQuil]

"when a pitcher loses control of the ball". So nowhere near the same level of freak accident. A pitcher who "loses control of the ball" is careless.

Tell me, does this stupid code demand retribution if a star player is accidentally hit by a defensive play while he is trying to run a base? You know, actual freak accident.

Comparing a pitcher striking the batter to a real freak accident that involved 3 different people is disingenuous. The pitcher has literally nothing to interfere with his pitch.

There's a lot that's disingenuous here.

First off, you're assuming that Foligno had as much information on the hit as you did. When he probably didn't. He's not sitting at home on a couch as they go through various slow-motion replays.

Instead of a freak accident he saw Tavares get run over by a known punk and lies bleeding and concussed on the ice.

I'm sure there are plenty of accidental plays on the ballfield that have resulted in brawls, punches and pitches thrown. I'm not sure why you're so dead set on not admitting that "code" behaviour occurs in other sports besides hockey. It does.

 

[Mad hatter]

actually it isn't allowed which is why it is a penalty. The same reason you are not allowed to assault someone and they give you a penalty for it which could be jail. It is just accepted in the NHL. And what Foligno did does not happen in most games. How many times have you seen an injury like that this year alone? I can tell you that injury doesn't happen most games and probably happens less than a few times a year. That looked really bad.

Are you really comparing a fight in a hockey game to fight on the street? Foligno was allowed to fight and take a five minute penalty there, that’s the way hockey is played if people don’t like it then change, take fighting out of hockey like other sports.

 

[Beantown Beatdown]

Ah so Foligno was the instigator on a 100% pure accidental incident. Stay classy Foligno.

That’s what you took from that? Foligno admitted it was an accident and that he only had to fight him for the optics. Sounds like Foligno wasn’t even too keen on fighting either. Just had to be done for the sake of it.

 

[NyQuil]

That’s what you took from that? Foligno admitted it was an accident and that he only had to fight him for the optics. Sounds like Foligno wasn’t even too keen on fighting either. Just had to be done for the sake of it.

We don't necessarily know when he knew it was an accident.

He definitely knew that after the game during the press conference.

 

[Mad hatter]

You mean completely overreacting to a situation he himself deemed was no way in hell could be accidental without thinking? k

Yes exactly like that like that. I see fights after big hits, cheap shots all the time, it is part of the game unfortunately. If you don’t see that do you even watch hockey?

 

[EazyE1]

I really hope hes okay.

 

[Isles Junkie]

Thank goodness. Everything coming back clear is quite remarkable. I thought for sure that's at least a concussion. Hopefully he's able to get back on the ice soon.

Bad job by the trainers for trying to get him up into a seated position though. Any time there is a suspected head injury the 1st rule is to not move the patient and to stabilize the head.

Such a scary scene. I'm thrilled to hear he seems to be doing ok so far.

 

[Larry Hanson]

Great news, always thought Tavares was a good guy and I'd hate to see him end up like so many others who have suffered a serious head injury.

 

[Beantown Beatdown]

We don't necessarily know when he knew it was an accident.

He definitely knew that after the game during the press conference.

The quote literally said Foligno told Perry prior to the fight that he knew it was accidental but JT is our captain. Let’s just settle this.

 

[Unspecified]

That’s what you took from that? Foligno admitted it was an accident and that he only had to fight him for the optics. Sounds like Foligno wasn’t even too keen on fighting either. Just had to be done for the sake of it.

Optics? Such a lame defense.

 

[NyQuil]

The quote literally said Foligno told Perry prior to the fight that he knew it was accidental but JT is our captain. Let’s just settle this.

Well it worked.

People acting like the combatants lives were in danger. Give me a break.

Better a fight than skaters accidentally trying to run over each other for the rest of the game.

 

[Unspecified]

Yes exactly like that like that. I see fights after big hits, cheap shots all the time, it is part of the game unfortunately. If you don’t see that do you even watch hockey?

Willing to bet i have played in an watched more hockey than you EVER have. Fighting after something that everyone even the players on the ice deemed accidental it garbage. Staged fights are just weak.

 

[Puckclektr]

Are you really comparing a fight in a hockey game to fight on the street? Foligno was allowed to fight and take a five minute penalty there, that’s the way hockey is played if people don’t like it then change take fighting out of hockey like other sports.

I'm not comparing it to street fighting. I am comparing the situation. When I hit a family dog in front of a family at that point was one of the lowest points in my life. That is probably how Perry felt at that time. It wasn't just a dirty hit with someone being helped off the ice and skated it off. He was seriously injured and if that arena was full of people, it would not be even .01 decibal louder. The amount of people at home watched that in shock and were genuinely concerned for JT and knew that it was a serious medical condition and at that point wasn't just career threatening, but possibly life threatenting. You could see it on both benches. What is the point of the fight? Do you think Perry really wanted to fight at that point? You literally feel terrible for doing that. YEs foligno is allowed to fight. And many of us who love hockey and love fighting are allowed to call him out for something totally unnecessary.

 

[DramaticGloveSave]

Thank goodness. Everything coming back clear is quite remarkable. I thought for sure that's at least a concussion. Hopefully he's able to get back on the ice soon.

Bad job by the trainers for trying to get him up into a seated position though. Any time there is a suspected head injury the 1st rule is to not move the patient and to stabilize the head.

Such a scary scene. I'm thrilled to hear he seems to be doing ok so far.

Ya that was f***ed. When Tavares collapsed backwards with blood dripping down... I legitimately feared the worse. Actually yelled out “why are you moving him!”

 

[GoJetsGo55]

 

[Mad hatter]

Willing to bet i have played in an watched more hockey than you EVER have. Fighting after something that everyone even the players on the ice deemed accidental it garbage. Staged fights are just weak.

I agree it shouldn’t but it happens all the time which you seem to think it doesn’t. You have to stop fighting in hockey completely if you want to stop it. I guarantee Perry has fought numerous times because he thought somebody on the opposing team did something wrong to a player on his team.

 

[Beantown Beatdown]

Optics? Such a lame defense.

I don’t even necessarily agree with the fight, but I can accept settling the score just to get it out of the way. Better than the Leafs going after a Montreal player afterwards.