John Tavares injury

[snowkiddin]

that was brutal watching him try to get up and then like halfway losing consciousness jesus

that suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucks

I don’t know what the hell that trainer was doing

 

[McGarnagle]

I sometimes find it amazing that major pro hockey has been a thing for a good 120 years and only one guy has died on the ice.

 

[authentic]

I love tough, hard hitting hockey but this was just dumb, that "fight" was embarrassing. I think the last thing Perry wanted at that point was to land a lucky punch and hurt Foligno.

I got the same feeling as well. I get the idea behind it but it seemed forced and unecessary.

 

[Mark Stones Spleen]

Tipping pucks is a developed skill but skating and deciding what direction to go in is not?

You say Tavares getting hit and falling is ad hoc and cannot be predicted. Yet hits happen all the time and falls happen all the time and players have seen it happen and the results 1000s of times in their career. And they’ve seen it with peripheral and direct vision to the play, being able to predict outcomes both ways.

Your reasoning to discount my view that a historically dirty player did another dirty play boiled down to reaction time analysis and determining what plays can and cannot be made using peripheral view. I don’t bring up those points to “prove” Perry made an intentional hit, they are only brought up because you brought them up first. So no, I didn’t use those as a basis for my argument only as a basis to my counter points.

At the end of the day, I will admit I 100% cannot prove intent on this. No one can read minds. What we are left with is past history and that players character, and if you look at that, everything points to another typical stupid and dangerous Perry play.

Jesus, it's like you think the game is being played in a bubble hockey machine with players having the ability to a stop on a dime.

You think because of Perry's professional hockey experience he can predict which way Tavares was going to fall, at which angle, and which height, and then be able to switch paths instantaneously, hoping he doesn't blink at any moment in that time.

 

[Ciao]

They have tablets at the bench, he could of looked at it but no... the code!

I don't think anyone was looking at tablets then. It was an emotional response, I'm sure.

 

[dragonballgtz]

Tavares getting to his knees and tilting back the way he did was awfully scary. Get well soon

 

[Mark Stones Spleen]

You can always tell which posters on this board have never played competitive hockey in their lives.

You don't need to play any level of hockey to understand what happened here and that it couldn't have been avoided. You just need a functioning brain and some common sense.

The poster you quoted has neither.

 

[Dirty Dan]

I have a problem with that crap from Foligno. It was terrible to see what happened to Tavares but it was glaringly obvious that Perry did not intend to hit him. Trying to fight a guy for something that is just a casualty of playing a high speed game is just poor sportsmanship, IMO.

He just took out their captain, intentional or not

obviously if it was intentional the game would have gotten more chippy, but they fought and moved on

 

[Blufreezy]

Tavares getting to his knees and tilting back the way he did was awfully scary. Get well soon

I missed the play live, but I when I looked at the TV that was the first thing I saw - on his knees with the trainer, blood on his face and looking like he feinted collapsing backwards awith that scared/helpless look on his face. I thought he took a skate blade to the neck. That was scary as f***.

 

[silkyjohnson50]

As a Detroit fan who has despised Perry since 07, it’s bs that he had to answer the bell for exiting the zone. Beyond stupid. Dude didn’t initiate contact at all.

 

[leafsfan2point0]

Now that we got some positive news I feel more cautiously optimistic that he’ll be able to make a full recovery. John’s very tough and loves hockey and I have no doubt he’ll come back stronger than ever

 

[Arto Kilponen]

Now that we got some positive news I feel more cautiously optimistic that he’ll be able to make a full recovery. John’s very tough and loves hockey and I have no doubt he’ll come back stronger than ever

What positive news? (Don't expect me to read 30 pages)

 

[Patrik Barkov]

I don’t know what the hell that trainer was doing

JT was trying to get up so the trainer was just stabilizing his spine instead of trying to push him down to the ice which could cause more damage.

 

[leafsfan2point0]

What positive news? (Don't expect me to read 30 pages)

Tests came back clear and he’s conscious and communicating well

 

[lawrence]

Hardest part was him trying to get up on his own. totally accidental. Hope he recovers.

As a team the leafs will rally. Shit like this happens and they will have to forge forward at all costs. Guys will have to step up with the loss of the captain. Same situation in miami with ekblad being out.

 

[Sentinel]

He didn't even attempt to throw a punch.

Except he won that fight pretty handily.

I agree it was a pure accident and there was nothing Perry could do to avoid it.
I agree that fight was unnecessary. Leafs don't need to fight Perry to get it out of their system. Their coach should have said: "Guys, this was clearly an accident, no need to retaliate, let's move on and win the game."

 

[StreetHawk]

JT was trying to get up so the trainer was just stabilizing his spine instead of trying to push him down to the ice which could cause more damage.

Someone that hurt is just going on instinct and not listening to the trainer.

 

[Jdavidev]

Leafs fan here, they better ****ING not! His health >>>>>>>>≥> hockey at any capacity. I really hope he's not rushed back. And further, I hope the org refuses to let him rush back *if* he tries.

I agree. People are wishing him a speedy recovery, and I'm definitely being pedantic, and they don't mean it that way, but I don't hope for a speedy recovery, but the RIGHT recovery... however long it takes. This is his brain, who he is as a person. The secondary effects from concussions can be worse than the initial ones. He could suffer another concussion easily, even just from whiplash if they don't allow his brain to completely heal. For his family and for himself, take the time to make sure he is ok.

 

[RorschachWJK]

That was one of the worst accidental plays I've seen in hockey Here's hoping for a full recovery for JT.

 

[AcerComputer]

Tavares is done for the series. Doubt he comes back this season.

 

[Ol' Jase]

I am. But I’m not the Leafs. Just a dude talking hockey. Who saw a play and has an opinion on it no matter how unpopular that opinion may be.

Have all the opinions you want, but you sure are asserting an awfully lot of thing to be factual that aren’t actually remotely true.

 

[Patrik Barkov]

Someone that hurt is just going on instinct and not listening to the trainer.

Yes. That's why he was just trying to prevent his spine from moving too much as a first response to minimize the damage.

 

[TheNumber4]

Have all the opinions you want, but you sure are asserting an awfully lot of thing to be factual that aren’t actually remotely true.

Its all opinion. I can’t read Perry’s mind in that moment and no one else can. But that doesn’t stop people from giving Perry the absolute guaranteed pass. I could see a possibility where that play can be intentional. And I know the character and history of Perry. He’s either dangerous, stupid, or negligent, his history can’t be ignored when a Perry like play happens again.

 

[Artorius Horus T]

The Tavares signing keeps on giving.

Now that the Leafs lost Tavares, they are screwed, not having 2nd line center kinda does that,
having 2 x 1st line centers wasn't such a good plan after all.
Leafs HAD, 2nd line center(s), but because of du(m)bas(s) blowing up the entire record braking roster
you get this, i feel for you Leafs fans, you deserve better.

Not fun when you have a kid, a business lawyer, as your GM, who has no idea what ice hockey really is,
wanna be GM, nothing more, who brought his best friend to coach his team..

 

[Ol' Jase]

Its all opinion. I can’t read Perry’s mind in that moment and no one else can. But that doesn’t stop people from giving Perry the absolute guaranteed pass. I could see a possibility where that play can be intentional. And I know the character and history of Perry. He’s either dangerous, stupid, or negligent, his history can’t be ignored when a Perry like play happens again.

You just did it again.