Freidman said something completely different on the NHL Network and when it comes to credibility I take Freidman over Kyper 100/100 times
Value of: John Gibson to the Leafs
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Freidman said something completely different on the NHL Network and when it comes to credibility I take Freidman over Kyper 100/100 times
Your just ignoring fellow ducks fans asks of Nylander or them stating 1st + Robertson + 2nd is garbage ? Leaf fans who want Gibson are fine with giving up a good package, were not fine with absurd overpays like Nylander.
HabsQC
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Ugh they went to the conference finals twice and lost in the SC finals once. Didn't win it all, but it's far from Leafs territory
thusk
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Most of time when
1-one team thinking they giving too much
2-The other side thinking think they dont receive enough
Normarly its a fair deal
-Duck will not trade gibson for a 1st pick alone
-Ducks will not receive knies or sandin+ robertson+ 1st pick... no body will give 2 elite prospect and a 1st. So it eould be somewhere between both
AND Ducks will not accept Mrazek in the deal unless significant sweeteners (e.g. 2 x 2nd round picks) are coming back as compensation.
That would be your opinion not a fact. Stop acting like you are a gm and what you say matters.
Stephen
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That's fine, I'm no in the trenches obviously, but whomever is making the trade potentially should know how dialed in Gibson is. Love the player and would love to have him but just make sure he's ready, willing and not California Dreamin'.
thusk
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Yes they will maybe leafs gonna give a little extra but will not be as huge than 2X 2nd pick.
Duck will need an other goalie to protect dostal and not rushing too soon in very bad condition. Duck will probably have to overpay to get someone ready to get destroyed with that AHL d.
So take an little extra for a kind of player overpaid but they gonna need. I dont think that would be a big deal to add mrazek
They can get a backup goalie of Mrazek’s level via ufa. Taking on 2 years of a capdump like Mrazek will cost the equivalent of 2x 2nd round picks. Leafs are better off buying out Mrazek rather than paying the price to dump him.
Big Muddy
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Assuming that of course the Ducks decide they want to be a potential trading partner and trade Gibson. And, I'd have to wonder about that.
Don't think it's the other NHL teams' job to bail out the Leafs.
I’m not sure Anaheim even considers my offer. Sandin and the 27th OA pick aren’t all that value
Playing at Gm is one thing, thinking your opinion actually matters in the outcome of a trade is another. Not speaking about you just in general.
Isn't that the secret pleasure of HFBoards?
Play at being GM?
Golden_Jet
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You’re conveniently leaving out that Mrazek would also be coming back. That return for Gibson with Mrazek attached is trash.
Your assuming Gibson wants to stay through a rebuild, any deal involving Gibson will require some cap going back, and Gibson wants to win so any trade involves him going to a playoff team. There are only a handful of playoff teams that can afford his cap + have the assets to trade for him. Gibson also had poor numbers over the last 3 years so that hurts his value as well. Point is there is a limited market of 5 or 6 teams that you will be dealing with in a Gibson trade.
Golden_Jet
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Amazing, people keep overlooking this, no matter how many times it’s posted.
Any deal for Gibson will require money going back. If hes traded hes going to a playoff team and most playoff teams don have a lot of cap space. Those teams also have to have the assets to trade for Gibson as well. There will be at most 5 or 6 teams that can realistically trade for Gibson this offseason.
Just to stir the pot...
IMO if Toronto is interested in Gibson that means they are ok with both his play and his contract. In fact, if they like his play then his contract is a good thing with 5 years of stability for a player entering his prime years.
Assuming the Ducks want a futures based package for Gibson and Toronto wants to free up some cap space, I could see the following:
Toronto gets:
Gibson
3rd in '23 or '24 (see below)
Anaheim gets:
Robertson (who I don't see as a high-end prospect...seems more like an energy guy at the NHL level)
'22 1st
'23 or '24 1st (TML choice and Anaheim sends back a 3rd in whatever year the 1st is exercised)
Mzarek
Kerfoot
Holl
IMO if Toronto is interested in Gibson that means they are ok with both his play and his contract. In fact, if they like his play then his contract is a good thing with 5 years of stability for a player entering his prime years.
Assuming the Ducks want a futures based package for Gibson and Toronto wants to free up some cap space, I could see the following:
Toronto gets:
Gibson
3rd in '23 or '24 (see below)
Anaheim gets:
Robertson (who I don't see as a high-end prospect...seems more like an energy guy at the NHL level)
'22 1st
'23 or '24 1st (TML choice and Anaheim sends back a 3rd in whatever year the 1st is exercised)
Mzarek
Kerfoot
Holl
thusk
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Mrazek at 2.5M to 2.8M, no body talking about his contract. Mrazek still agood back up . We talk about 1M overpaid its not that huge...
2 2nd pick its like whats florida paid to trade stralman like 4M overpaid
Toronto would be in control of exercising what year the 1st was given to Anaheim so yes, it would be top 10 protected.
That's when you know a trade is fair...both sides do it even though it's painful for both sides.
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