Confirmed with Link: Joel Edmundson (50% retained) to Washington for 3rd and 7th

[ChesterNimitz]

Matheson is a vet Savard is a vet Gallagher is a vet Anderson is a vet.

By the time we are in a position to compete Suzuki, Caufield, Dach, Guhle, et al will be seasoned vets.

 

[Beendair Donedat]

He wanted to be here. He was so proud to wear the jersey and talked about how much it meant to him and his father.

He hit guys. He blocked shots. He fought for his teammates. He hurt himself, giving his all for the CH. He was the guy who went out of his way to include all of his teammates in off ice gatherings, he wore an “A” because he was a leader.

You can define most players impact by stats, but Eddy brought more than those stats could measure. I wish him all the best, and only hope that the younger guys take some of the leadership he provided, and put it to good use.

 

[Rapala]

The problem i have with the way some people look at the draft is they look at one position only and that's it. 31st!!! There's never a good player there. So it's impossible to draft a good player there. Hey we traded the 37th overall pick and the other team drafted a bust so we would have drafted a bust to.

It is my opinion that you must look at the draft as a whole not as a bunch of single pick independently. And if you're rebuilding you must look at it even over the span of 2-3 years. The more picks you have in the top 50 or so (where most top players are being drafted) the most chances you have to hit the jackpot just by being lucky.

Let's pretend Beck becomes the next Bergeron. Let's just say we don't have the 26th overall pick acquired from Calgary so we don't pick Mesar and then Mesar is still available when we talk 33rd. Then for sure we do not draft Beck with the 33rd but draft Mesar instead. So even if Mesar bust and Beck becomes a perennial selke then there's no Beck without Mesar if Mesar is still available at 33rd.

The more picks you have the more chances you'll stumble on something. The easier it is for your scouting team to hit for the fence AND go for the safer pick at the same time. It's easier to hit for the fence with dunno the 34th pick if you also got the 40th pick. Yes you later get the problem that you can't sign all of them and give them all a chance and you might let a late bloomer bloom in another team but i'll still always favor more picks if you're rebuilding.

Newhook is 22. Evaluation should be almost be over for him. A skilled pro talent evaluator (which i'm not) should be almost sure to know if he got it or not. So unlike a pick he will need to be good or else that's a bad move. The picks are always good to have no matter what. It gives your scouting team options at the draft.

I still think Newhook has a lot to offer and it was more a case of Sakic being in a go for it now mode. The premise is sound that the more hats you have in the ring the better chance you have to hit something, but watching Suzuki and Dach struggle with little to no talent on their flanks was very frustrating.
Dach in particular would make some great plays only to have zero support. If Newhook can even play a simple give and go game we are already ahead IMO.

 

[Habs]

Peculiar take, I must say. This trade seems to me like a textbook « addition by substraction » considering that keeping Edmundson would have hindered Guhle’s and Xhekaj’s ice time; both of which are already better (and much more physical) than Steady Eddy post-back injuries.

I wish him the best in Washington, but I much prefer the Habs cut their losses with a 3rd + 7th round picks rather than gamble on Edmundson’s health and a higher return next TDL.

its not like I'm against trading JE, but we need to fill that void and I'm wondering how they do it with retaining 50%.

They all played 1 year, they are not kids anymore - teens.

Guhle was injured most of the year, so was Arbur, they are 100% still kids lol. I firmly believe you insulate the kids and bring them in slowly, this isn't how you rebuild in my mind. Slot the kids in with great leadership and vets, I don't see this plan working out at all. What next? Trade Anderson and we can be totally inept next year? I guess the mastermind has a plan, I really do NOT see it working at the pro level, we are far too inexperienced and too small of a team, we are going to have another rough year.

 

[larek]

How is this comment even allowed lol

It's not so bad

 

[Andrei79]

Too bad about his injuries, it really hurt his value. He's likely be worth a 1st/high 2nd

 

[KFlint]

Man, people are emo around here these days…

 

[schwang26]

do you really want the kids dishing out all the hits again this year? You named 3 guys, all are basically rookies two are dmen. BTW Guhle is one of my favorite players, but he is by no means a huge dude, he is better served playing hockey than trying to be physical for 82 games. Arbur fills that physical role nicely however.

Guhle plays a physical game. I'm not saying I want them fighting all the time , I'm saying they can and do play physical. The other guy was insinuating that the Habs didn't have anyone in that mold. They do.

 

[Beer and Chips]

Great job Kent! You're the man.

 

[GordonGraham]

Another awful move having to retain 50% for a #4D and only getting that in retiurn

 

[Milhouse40]

In a market where some quality players goes through buyout, traded for future consideration.......we'll take what we can and run with it.

Needed to make room absolutely before the season.
Mission accomplish on D, need some on F now

 

[Habssince89]

Goodbye Chariot 2.0

May Chariot 3.0 be leaving soon

Chariot shouldn't be disrespected like that. Dude was solid for us.

 

[Runner77]

The available roster spot was more important than the cap space.

Not just numerically but the cap room being created is not likely to be needed. Always good to have though, in another flat cap season.

What are the odds they secure another Monahan-type deal?

 

[JC Superstar]

Are you serious? WE got the picks? I've seen trades like that when you had to give picks and retain to get the relief. A lot better then Rolaids.

 

[NobleSix]

Don't need him, glad they got him outta here. Picks are whatever who cares. Cap space is what matters.

 

[Nedved]

It's obvious Edmundson wanted a fresh start, or management wanted a fresh start, no other reason to make this trade right now.

I never really liked him, I hope Hughes learns from this, and trades guy when they have peak value, especially if we're likely to be awful.

 

[JoelWarlord]

Passing on Michkov really broke peoples brains

It's wild man, this is a completely generic and fine nothing trade. Selling off an old vet to save a bit of cap and open up the roster spot and somehow it's still about Michkov and "they don't care about talent" for some reason.

I dunno if I've ever seen the level of anger so high on here before, maybe the Subban trade? It's particularly funny because this was the exact trade everyone was losing their minds about us not making at the deadline.

 

[ChesterNimitz]

Another awful move having to retain 50% for a #4D and only getting that in retiurn

A number #4 D on a team that finished in the bottom 5 over the past two years, who is often injured, brings no offence and is largely immobile, is not bringing much in return. Frankly, I think Washington over paid.

 

[cphabs]

I think a lot of our injuries occurred because there were no vets around to calm the kids down and remind them to pick their spots etc. Was Arbs really needed to fight that much? Does Guhle know when to press , when to go for the hit, how to control that pressure? Man vets are important, I don't think Savard /MM are a good combo for this either. Really going to be a tough year next year unless Kent adds some serious help up front to insulate this very young core

Agreed, but? They are learning!

 

[MasterD]

by all accounts he fit into the 'atmosphere' Kent wanted here, not to mention size etc. If we are depleting out blueline, this should be another amazing year to watch the smurfs get pounded on for 82 games

Matheson-Barron
Guhle-Kovacevic
Xhakej-Savard
Harris



Wiseman

Unless we're super destroyed by injuries again, we're not depleted. And Edmundston was always injured himself anyways.

Mailloux, Hutson, Reinbacher coming up

 

[BaseballCoach]

Matheson-Kovajecik
Guhle-Kovacevic
Xhakej-Savard
Harris

Wiseman

Chantal might have a hard time with two guys so close in pronunciation. Still it beats the barron job she used to have.

 

[JoelWarlord]

Of all the takes in this thread "this makes our blue line too soft" is probably the strangest. They are making this trade so that ARBER XHEKAJ stays in the lineup and won't be scratched.

 

[MasterD]

Chantal might have a hard time with two guys so close in pronunciation. Still it beats the barron job she used to have.

Right, lol. Wanted to edit the name and edited Barron out instead lol

Wish I was drunk, I'm just dumb

 

[Fish on The Sand]

Remember when Edmondson was supposed to be considered a top trade target for contending teams, and now we're trading him for nothing.

 

[Nedved]

A number #4 D on a team that finished in the bottom 5 over the past two years, is often injured, brings no offence and is largely immobile, is not bringing much in return. Frankly, I think Washington over paid.

For sure, a third rounder, likely to be pick 70-90, for a guy that doesn't have a spot on this team going forward. There will be other guys available in August/September in the dumpster that will hold a similar value. It was a smart move.