Confirmed with Link: Joel Edmundson (50% retained) to Washington for 3rd and 7th

[CHfan1]

Another 1.75M in cap space for Hughes.

What's he going to do with over 10M in cap space?

I wonder if the Habs will try to stay under the cap without putting Price on LTIR until after the season starts.

 

[ML16]

by all accounts he fit into the 'atmosphere' Kent wanted here, not to mention size etc. If we are depleting out blueline, this should be another amazing year to watch the smurfs get pounded on for 82 games

Peculiar take, I must say. This trade seems to me like a textbook « addition by substraction » considering that keeping Edmundson would have hindered Guhle’s and Xhekaj’s ice time; both of which are already better (and much more physical) than Steady Eddy post-back injuries.

I wish him the best in Washington, but I much prefer the Habs cut their losses with a 3rd + 7th round picks rather than gamble on Edmundson’s health and a higher return next TDL.

 

[The Great Weal]

The available roster spot was more important than the cap space.

 

[Lucky Luke]

Which is strange because the Newhook trade should be a far bigger cause for concern. Reinbacher was not my first choice i would have aimed for the fence with Mihckov but Reinbacher was my 2nd choice and let's be honest he pretty much settle our defence for many years to come.

Mailloux-Guhle
Hutson-Reinbacher
Barron-Xhekaj
Harris-Struble

The likelyhood for this to not become a rock solid defence is pretty much nonexistent.

Let me align that up slightly for you...

Guhle-Mailloux
Hutson-Reinbacher
Xhekaj-Barron
Struble-Engstrom

Now, we're good to go.

 

[Rapala]

For the record, it's Mikhail Gulyayev and Ethan Gauthier

Good to have it recorded! Let the games begin.

 

[Adam Michaels]

 

[26Mats]

I'd think about it but both Hoffman and Savard have been often injured in the last few years and ideally you want one vet in the lineup at least. I'd probably keep both for the next season at least. But Edmundson had to be traded and i'm happy KH saw that. Return is not great but it is what it is. We needed to make some room.

I had been hoping for 1sts from all of Chiarot, Petry, Edmundson, and Savard.

Hughes did well to get a 1st for Chiarot and even better than a 1st in Matheson for Petry. Savard is a hot commodity now. I would have moved Savard and kept Eddie as a mentor, playing him on the right side. Though not sure we could get a 1st for Savard in this market.

 

[Kaiden Ghoul]

Good news, more cap space,more minutes for our young guy. Now just get rid of Hoffman and or Armia. We will see if they plan on make the playoff asap or not in the next few days/week/month with our cap space. Just dont overpaid in terms of money and lenght please Hugo if you go fishing

 

[themilosh]

I wonder if the Habs will try to stay under the cap without putting Price on LTIR until after the season starts.

what benefit does that do to the team
other than save Molson the money?

 

[MtlSars]

Would you move Matheson now if a big offer came along?

Let him play this season and his value will skyrocket.... He had his best season in just 44 games last year. He was on pace for 50+ points.

Let him have a career year and then see if Hutson is ready (don't see him playing in NCAA beyond this year).

He is on a very fair contract currently too. Trade him for a kings ransom then. If Hutson isn't ready, TDL 2026 or keep him.

 

[larek]

Dude, it’s like 4 regimes now where you’re just always negative about everything. Can you just stop for once

Negative? Maybe,-- truthful on this ? I'd say Yes

 

[themilosh]

lol he was awful good bye. Give his minutes to Barron and watch our team add 3-4 wins.

agreed- I'm so done with these old hobbling dudes somehow being worth anything, because of locker room nonsense. These guys are pros, multi millionaire athletes.. I'll take Newhook on his experience to win a Cup any day.
it's the coaching staff job to get these guys ready. Unless said Vet is a Crosby, then whatever.

 

[Goldthorpe]

what benefit does that do to the team
other than save Molson the money?

Accrue cap space over the year.

 

[ChesterNimitz]

But he was a 5-star human being who could bash in skulls between injury reserve stints!

Yeah, we should build a shrine for him.

 

[LaP]

It will be interesting to see what high end offensive talent comes from 31 and 37. The odds are low a player of that caliber is available to begin with and then you have to hit on the right guy. There may be a player who is drafted later that ends up being better but the thing is it's not usually the player people thought it would be. Newhook will fill a need now and hopefully help our young centers progress.

The problem i have with the way some people look at the draft is they look at one position only and that's it. 31st!!! There's never a good player there. So it's impossible to draft a good player there. Hey we traded the 37th overall pick and the other team drafted a bust so we would have drafted a bust to.

It is my opinion that you must look at the draft as a whole not as a bunch of single pick independently. And if you're rebuilding you must look at it even over the span of 2-3 years. The more picks you have in the top 50 or so (where most top players are being drafted) the most chances you have to hit the jackpot just by being lucky.

Let's pretend Beck becomes the next Bergeron. Let's just say we don't have the 26th overall pick acquired from Calgary so we don't pick Mesar and then Mesar is still available when we talk 33rd. Then for sure we do not draft Beck with the 33rd but draft Mesar instead. So even if Mesar bust and Beck becomes a perennial selke then there's no Beck without Mesar if Mesar is still available at 33rd.

The more picks you have the more chances you'll stumble on something. The easier it is for your scouting team to hit for the fence AND go for the safer pick at the same time. It's easier to hit for the fence with dunno the 34th pick if you also got the 40th pick. Yes you later get the problem that you can't sign all of them and give them all a chance and you might let a late bloomer bloom in another team but i'll still always favor more picks if you're rebuilding.

Newhook is 22. Evaluation should be almost be over for him. A skilled pro talent evaluator (which i'm not) should be almost sure to know if he got it or not. So unlike a pick he will need to be good or else that's a bad move. The picks are always good to have no matter what. It gives your scouting team options at the draft.

 

[Adam Michaels]

 

[themilosh]

Habs now have $490,000 in cap space with 23 players signed on the roster without putting Price on LTIR. If they want to make a Monahan deal like last season they could always put Price on LTIR opening up an additional $10.5 million in cap space.

They still have to sign Newhook and make at least one more transaction to be at the 23 player limit.

i'd like to see them go for a Duchene on a 1yr contract with the full intent to move him at the deadline.

 

[LaP]

Let me align that up slightly for you...

Guhle-Mailloux
Hutson-Reinbacher
Xhekaj-Barron
Struble-Engstrom

Now, we're good to go.

Well either way the defense is pretty much set just need to wait for them to get 2-3 years of NHL experience.

 

[ChesterNimitz]

Didn't expect more. Anything above would have been highway robbery. Hugo couldn't trade this guy, he was hurt, slow and past his prime. Other D are pushing. What really bothers me though is giving up a first and second for Newhook or holding on to Eddy while his value was high.

You may experience some relief the first time you see Newhook skate with puck.

 

[larek]

i'd like to see them go for a Duchene on a 1yr contract with the full intent to move him at the deadline

I would think Price gos on the LT
For sure

 

[SOLR]

You really want to send all these kids to the wolves again next yeare?

They all played 1 year, they are not kids anymore - teens.

 

[Holystik]

Here comes the crying whining little bitches

How is this comment even allowed lol

 

[LaP]

I had been hoping for 1sts from all of Chiarot, Petry, Edmundson, and Savard.

Hughes did well to get a 1st for Chiarot and even better than a 1st in Matheson for Petry. Savard is a hot commodity now. I would have moved Savard and kept Eddie as a mentor, playing him on the right side. Though not sure we could get a 1st for Savard in this market.

Looks like a weak market. A lot of the top teams are fading. Washington, Pens, TB, Bruins. They wont give the moon for vets anymore. The upcoming teams are still finishing their rebuild they wont give the moon either until 2-3 years. It is what it is i guess. MB missed the boat the king ransom we would have got it for Gallagher, Danault and Petry in 2020. Had MB sold in 2020 we would be in a very good situation atm imo. Yeah we miss a cup final but i think it would have been worth it.

 

[themilosh]

Didn't expect more. Anything above would have been highway robbery. Hugo couldn't trade this guy, he was hurt, slow and past his prime. Other D are pushing. What really bothers me though is giving up a first and second for Newhook or holding on to Eddy while his value was high.

2 x 2nd rounders for a ready (tried and tested) 22 yo, 2019 16th OA highly touted Stanley Cup winner, who has performed at a PPG in the AHL?
sure, enjoy your 2 x 2nd rounders and hope they even come close to Newhook in 4 years.

 

[Goldthorpe]

It is my opinion that you must look at the draft as a whole not as a bunch of single pick independently. And if you're rebuilding you must look at it even over the span of 2-3 years. The more picks you have in the top 50 or so (where most top players are being drafted) the most chances you have to hit the jackpot just by being lucky.

The more chances you have to pick nobody of value too.

Your assessment is not wrong, I just believe at this point people are overthinking it. Like you said, it's easier to evaluate and project a 22 years old player. Hughes pulled the trigger on the trade because he prefer the relative certainty of what Newhook has and will (hopefully) brings versus the higher potential (and uncertainty) of Ethan Gauthier and Mikhail Gulyayev.