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... in what kind of bizarre contest did Kovalev have the opportunity to score a SHORTHANDED goal?
Player Discussion Joel Armia turnaround year?
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... in what kind of bizarre contest did Kovalev have the opportunity to score a SHORTHANDED goal?
ahmedou
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#Armia-PressConference(20/08/19)
“I thought the whole team played great. We gave everything we got in every shifts. Kinda focus on playing simple, shooting the puck. I don't think there's any magic tricks.”
“There was no set play in my shorthanded goal during that penalty kill (laughs). It was an awesome pass by Ouellet tho...”
“I thought the whole team played great. We gave everything we got in every shifts. Kinda focus on playing simple, shooting the puck. I don't think there's any magic tricks.”
“There was no set play in my shorthanded goal during that penalty kill (laughs). It was an awesome pass by Ouellet tho...”
JianYang
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I thought Armia was one of those guys that never really got going during bubble hockey.
In the regular season, he showed some nifty hands in tight areas, and someone who was really tough to knock off the puck. He was also a valuable forchecker and created alot of takeaways.
All I remember from his bubble season is him taking a bunch of frustrating penalties.
In the regular season, he showed some nifty hands in tight areas, and someone who was really tough to knock off the puck. He was also a valuable forchecker and created alot of takeaways.
All I remember from his bubble season is him taking a bunch of frustrating penalties.
le_sean
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... in what kind of bizarre contest did Kovalev have the opportunity to score a SHORTHANDED goal?
I had to look it up but Kovalev actually averaged 1:25 of SH TOI that season.
To be fair, 2007-08 Kovalev was a player you wanted on the ice at all times. He was unbelievable.
JianYang
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... in what kind of bizarre contest did Kovalev have the opportunity to score a SHORTHANDED goal?
Kovalev was an absolute beast in 07-08.
It was definitely his best season a hab, and I would even call it the best season of his career.
DAChampion
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... in what kind of bizarre contest did Kovalev have the opportunity to score a SHORTHANDED goal?
Kovalev got PK time, he wasn't bad at it ...
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he was much bettwr towards the end of the bubble playing with suzuki and drouin.
People underestimate how talented players can play PK.
Coaches usually decide not to make them do that and save them for PP and ES situations.
TannedBum
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58 games. Pace for +20 goals. Most hits. Most takeaways and insane TKA/60 2.82
Valuable forechecker is an understatement. For example Lehkonen's TKA/60 is 1.66. That's almost below average. Downright pathetic compared to Armia.
Josh Anderson fluke-season(18-19)
82gp 27+20
Hits/60 9.19
TKA/60 1.97
Armia 19-20
82gp pace 23+20
Hits/60 8.76
TKA/60 2.82
Valuable forechecker is an understatement. For example Lehkonen's TKA/60 is 1.66. That's almost below average. Downright pathetic compared to Armia.
Josh Anderson fluke-season(18-19)
82gp 27+20
Hits/60 9.19
TKA/60 1.97
Armia 19-20
82gp pace 23+20
Hits/60 8.76
TKA/60 2.82
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JianYang
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I think there was a time in the mid 90s where the canucks were unleashing Russ Courtnall and Pavel Bure on the PK. How's that for speed?
I have seen it. My only concern is them getting infront of a bomb from the point and breaking something.
Well I remember the Habs unleashing Russ Courtnall on the PK for the few years we had him and it was fun to watch once you lowered your expectations.
Russ was a cheetah and just shot up the ice when he took away the puck or was sprung by a linemate. Off on a breakaway with at least a few feet between him and opposing player. Unfortunately, Russ had semi stone hands . Wait, a 20 plus goal scorer with stone hands ? I am laughing here, but Russ should/ could have had 40 goals a season given the number of breakaways he had.
It was still great. Opposing teams had to adjust their PP when Russ was on the ice and play more conservatively because one mistake and Russ was going the other way. So he didnt score as much as he could have, but he was still fun to watch, and he did impact the game.
Estimated_Prophet
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Gotta love how you couldn't control your bias and just had to add "fluke season" in an attempt to add legitimacy to an unproven claim.
TannedBum
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Nothing to do with bias. His 18-19 season was complete fluke compared to other seasons, especially last one.
Estimated_Prophet
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Please.....
It is called progression, he went from 17 goals to 19 goals (pace for 25), and then to 27 goals. This was over the span of his 22,23 and 24 year old seasons.
Your post has everything to do with bias and there is way too much of this nonsense around here.
A55P2
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He had the same exact dekes back then too. When he finds a good spot to utilize them they're so effective!
I think if you drop the bias to Armia and loose the blind hate:
He has never regressed in his nhl career only progressed.
He is in his prime for the next three years.
He's not going to become something amazing but every possibility easily points to him scoring 20 goals.
dackelljuneaubulis02
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yeah like someone else said, he started to look a lot better as the playoffs went on. I could be wrong but I feel like he's a bit of a slow starter. He was absolutely miserable at the beginning but then it clicked and I thought he looked pretty damn good.
I'd like to see that line stay together at least for a bit. Suzuki is the one guy who can make guys like Drouin and Armia better. They're both skilled underachievers thus far. Worthwhile experiment imo.
He got career best in goals and points while playing 20 less games than his previous best in points.
He is trending up. Hopefully he can continue to do so. Last year he likely would've been a 20/20 guy over a full season. Which is great for what we got him for.
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I would also like to see drouin with Suzuki. His passes that never work all of sudden started clicking with Suzuki. Maybe Nick is able to read drouin better than other linemates have been able to. Then you put one of Armia or Anderson with them. You need a big body with those guys who can get in on the forcheck and grab loose pucks. Drouin is bad at that. Suzuki can be a good forchecker with the way he thinks the game, but if he's chasing pucks all the time, you aren't really utilizing him.
I'd probably put Anderson there assuming it's not forcing one of them to play their off wing.
If you are bored. Check WJC-20 all time stats. Lots of good players, check 51 best.
Still rough diamond but with his two way game very usefull player. Do not forget him yet, give him one year. Then he is gone or some other right winger.
Cant wait next season.
Still rough diamond but with his two way game very usefull player. Do not forget him yet, give him one year. Then he is gone or some other right winger.
Cant wait next season.
Habs Halifax
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Nice to have both of them on the roster don't you think? What's your narrative? We didn't need Anderson cause we have Armia? Or are you saying Armia should have a equal shot to play top 6 like we are penciling in with Anderson?
I do value Armia's game and I agree with you that he does a lot for us that some Habs fans don't appreciate or understand
Mrb1p
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Armia sux, lets stop this narrative. He's a bottom 6 forward and thats where he should play.
Habs Halifax
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Lets stop the Armia sux narrative
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Mrb1p
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The Habs and Habs fan have a tendency to overrate serviceable players and then they wonder why all of a sudden expectations aren't met. (Danault, Armia, Moen, Bouillon, Dandenault, etc.)
Armia is a bottom liner, or a 8th or 9th forward if you have a really good 3rd line player (Danault would be that guy.)
If he's in your top 6, or if he's the best player on your third line, or even used on an offensive third line, he's going to fall short, very short.
