Blue Jays Discussion: Joe Panik traded for the reliever we need.

[SDig14]

I'd do 4 years, $80 million for Semien and gun to my head I'd add a 5th year as well. Seems fair for both sides if he is enjoying being a Blue Jay. He may be loyal to the team that paid him when no one else would go that high this year.

 

[SDig14]

Would be sweet, then we could lose games late 15-14 instead of 7-6

Or we just win like 12-6. That would be fun too.

 

[Discoverer]

Would be sweet, then we could lose games late 15-14 instead of 7-6

I like that in this scenario adding Nelson Cruz somehow causes the Jays to allow more runs per game.

 

[The Nemesis]

I like that in this scenario adding Nelson Cruz somehow causes the Jays to allow more runs per game.

If Cruz becomes the full-time DH Charlie will have to put Panik in as a pitcher to keep him in the lineup. More runs given up.

It's not rocket science

 

[dredeye]

If guys are in a good mood during a losing streak like this that’s problem enough

 

[phillipmike]

Montoyo might have lost the room. May or may not be his fault but if he doesn’t win 8 of the 11, he should be fired.

 

[Discoverer]

If guys are in a good mood during a losing streak like this that’s problem enough

There's a fine line between "good mood" and "staying positive", and I'm concerned Montoyo is describing the former.

I like that Jays players can still laugh and have confidence in themselves and shake things off and move on the next game... I don't think being depressed is helpful at all. But I want them to be pissed off, too.

 

[Del Preston]

f*** this clown.

 

[Hoverhand]

Let's say hypothetically you manage a baseball team and your managerial style is widely loathed by your own fanbase.

Now, tbf to you, your entire bullpen is ravaged with injuries.

Do you

A) Try your best to keep the media at bay and double down on the fact that the bullpen is currently a war hospital

or

B) Antagonize the fanbase with some dumb shirt about how everything is fine, when everything is clearly not fine.

 

[Amadeus]

Fun times guys!

 

[Cloned]

If the season continues to go off the rails I think you have to shop Semien, Matz and Ray. 2 of those 3 could get you ridiculous offers, and even with Matz, a reliable LH starter is always going to get more than you think.

 

[Discoverer]

Let's say hypothetically you manage a baseball team and your managerial style is widely loathed by your own fanbase.

Now, tbf to you, your entire bullpen is ravaged with injuries.

Do you

A) Try your best to keep the media at bay and double down on the fact that the bullpen is currently a war hospital

or

B) Antagonize the fanbase with some dumb shirt about how everything is fine, when everything is clearly not fine.

I'll be honest, if I were in that situation I wouldn't give a shit what the fans think and would do whatever I felt would improve morale on the team and get them back on track.

 

[stickty111]

If the season continues to go off the rails I think you have to shop Semien, Matz and Ray. 2 of those 3 could get you ridiculous offers, and even with Matz, a reliable LH starter is always going to get more than you think.

2 more weeks of bad play and we need to go sell mode.

 

[Cloned]

2 more weeks of bad play and we need to go sell mode.

They could really hit the motherload with Semien and Ray. If they can get three young on-the-verge impact players (especially pitchers) for those two, that would really extend the window of contention for this group.

 

[SDig14]

If you're out of it, you have to listen on the free agents I suppose. But I think you have a good chance at keeping both Ray and Semien beyond this year, so you can't trade them unless someone pays a lot.

 

[SDig14]

I think the big boys go off tomorrow and get this going in the right direction. Top 4 in the order went 0-16 tonight, think they'll explode this weekend.

 

[Jmo89]

Random non-jays question:

Why was there someone wearing an Astros jersey in the sox dugout?

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[aingefan]

1. Anthony Kay was getting hammered in AAA….why him?
2. What did Zach Logue do to become this version on himself?
3. Same question for Samad Taylor.
4. Same question for Kevin Smith.

 

[hoglund]

Montoyo might have lost the room. May or may not be his fault but if he doesn’t win 8 of the 11, he should be fired.

That's asking a little too much, I'd say 7 of 10 and then the Jays would be in a better position.

 

[as Pure as Evil]

i will admit i do wish the jays were in the sox drafting slot. grabbing leiter would have been a coupe for this club. should have used 2 years of season stats to pick draft position like they were talking about. instead we get boston who had a bad start last year and is top 5/6 in all baseball this year. but it is what it is

 

[phillipmike]

Random non-jays question:

Why was there someone wearing an Astros jersey in the sox dugout?

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Ball boys normally dont travel with the team. Sometimes the home team would supply the visiting team with a ball boy who is wearing the home team's colors. This is a normal practice, but i will say the guy in the picture is a little big for a ball boy so it could be something else. Medical staff?

 

[phillipmike]

 

[trellaine201]

Should be able to rack up runs today. Opposing pitcher 0-6 and gaudy ERA 6.65

 

[Gargyn]

Should be able to rack up runs today. Opposing pitcher 0-6 and gaudy ERA 6.65

Yesterday they called up a guy from the minors who didn’t even make their team ahead of the guy we face today. So don’t get excited.

 

[Amadeus]

I'm rooting for this guy. He's a likeable dude who I want to see succeed.

The BP has cost this team.