Prospect Info: Joakim Kemell, 17th Overall, 2022 NHL Draft

[Fintastic]

Not that there was any doubt, but this is confirmation for where he plays next year

Which all but confirms that he won't be attending to Preds training camp. There ls really no need and it would interfere his season with JYP.

 

[glenngineer]

Having a great shot is one thing. Being in the right position to use it is another. Imagine Ovie or Stamkos from the right face off dot trying to use their one timer. It wouldn't work. Why we insist on using Tolvanen on the left face off dot, almost the point, is beyond me. Get him so he can release one timers from the back side. He'd be much more of a threat.

 

[Flgatorguy87]

Quick start for his D+1 year

 

[Scoresberg]

Good lord what a bullet..

 

[nine_inch_fang]

Hell of a bullet pass from that Dman too that he handled so smoothly.

 

[Scoresberg]

https://www.mtvuutiset.fi/artikkeli...H9QsGflriL9gStTYElhMplIbXPPylHlAl2Z_7-rxZytkY

Liiga: Joakim Kemell täräyttää hurjan taklauksen – Lukko-puolustaja Matthew Abt lähtee huippulupauksen perään – katso maksutta MTV Katsomossa

No goals for him yesterday but one big hit.

 

[Fintastic]

Tunteet kuumina SM-liigassa: Joakim Kemell, 18, täräytti hurjan taklauksen – kanadalaispakki lähti NHL-huippulupauksen perään

Liiga: Joakim Kemell täräyttää hurjan taklauksen – Lukko-puolustaja Matthew Abt lähtee huippulupauksen perään – katso maksutta MTV Katsomossa

No goals for him yesterday but one big hit.

That big hit caused the opposing player to lost his nerve and the following PP scored the first goal. So that hit was key to how the game started.

 

[Scoresberg]

Kemell with an absolute ripper for his 2nd goal of the year.

 

[Scoresberg]

5 points in 8 games for Kemell to start the year. Kid’s got a bullet..

 

[nine_inch_fang]

A right handed shot that can one-time and hit the net??????? What?!?!

 

[Viqsi]

A right handed shot that can one-time and hit the net??????? What?!?!

can confirm that such things have been known to exist

 

[herzausstein]

5 points in 8 games for Kemell to start the year. Kid’s got a bullet..

Not good enough... bust

 

[42]

No points and just 1 SOG in his last game with a very low TOI of 10:27. Anyone watch the game? Did he get injured or get in the coach's doghouse?

 

[triggrman]

No points and just 1 SOG in his last game with a very low TOI of 10:27. Anyone watch the game? Did he get injured or get in the coach's doghouse?

Hynes called the coach and asked him to play on the 4th line

 

[LaMasquerade]

No points and just 1 SOG in his last game with a very low TOI of 10:27. Anyone watch the game? Did he get injured or get in the coach's doghouse?

There was some shuffling of lines behind the first line and Kemell ended up on right side of the third line with new linemates (JK had been playing on line 2 every previous game).
Then the game was a bit strange. Jyp took 3-0 lead early and then they were basically in penalty troubles the rest of the game (16 mins of PK).

So, I wouldn't draw too many conclusions from this game.

 

[AintLifeGrand]

hes the best player on the team, why would he do that?

 

[jumb0]

No points and just 1 SOG in his last game with a very low TOI of 10:27. Anyone watch the game? Did he get injured or get in the coach's doghouse?

TIME TO TRADE HIM

 

[nine_inch_fang]

There was some shuffling of lines behind the first line and Kemell ended up on right side of the third line with new linemates (JK had been playing on line 2 every previous game).
Then the game was a bit strange. Jyp took 3-0 lead early and then they were basically in penalty troubles the rest of the game (16 mins of PK).

So, I wouldn't draw too many conclusions from this game.

Thanks for the information. It's nice to have information like this on our prospects.

 

[AlaBlueShirt]

Saw the guy live tonight. 2 goals. 90mp/h shot. He is going to be a star.

 

[Ippenator]

A pretty good game for Kemell tonight. He scored 2 goals against the league leaders Ilves from Tampere and kept JYP still in the game with a terrific PP onetimer which made the score to 3-4. In the end Ilves scored still one more to the empty net to win by the score of 5-3. Kemell was playing with quite good enthusiasm and was playing quite physical as well.

He does seem to be kind of in the doghouse of the coach Jukka Rautakorpi, as Rautakorpi is clearly playing Juuso Puustinen and Reid Gardiner much more on 5 on 5 hockey. Today Kemell got a bit over 15 minutes while Puustinen and Gardiner both got over 20 minutes of ice time.

Well, at least Kemell gets quite good PP ice time. But honestly he is a clearly better player offensively than Puustinen or Gardiner, so I think he should get at least as much ice time as they get, as he isn't bad defensively either. Unfortunately coach Rautakorpi is a pretty concervative old fart who will trust his veterans even too much compared to young talents, so I’m not expecting this situation to change much during the season.

Also a bit problematic for Kemell’s success this season has been that he has stubbornly been stuck with low class linemates. He has lately been playing with Severi Lahtinen who is supposed to have good skills, but is a soft and low intensity player with attitude problems and has now 0+1=1 points in his 11 Liiga games this season, and the center in the line has been Aaro Vidgren who is a very low class playmaker and more like a goalscoring center who isn't a particularly good goalscorer either. Vidgren scored last season 7+0=7 points in 50 games and this season he has scored goals with a better pace as he has 4+0=4 points in 11 games. But 0 assists in 61 Liiga games is just absolutely unbelievably bad playmaking for any center at the Liiga level. Just insane to play a clear sniper like Kemell with this kind of linemates and for 15 minutes per game. Its’s like practically trying to make him fail.

So in fact when knowing about the situation I would say that his season has been pretty succesful when taking to account his linemates and his ice time. 5+2=7 in 11 games in Liiga isn't really that bad with those circumstances. unfortunately Rautakorpi seems to trust in Kemell’s talent much less than last year’s coach Ahvenjärvi did. So it seems that it’s going to be a really difficult season for Kemell now. Hopefully it will make him even more motivated to show all his talent and he will get a better situation even playing under Rautakorpi.

 

[hockey diva]

The coach would fit right in here…

 

[Fintastic]

He does seem to be kind of in the doghouse of the coach Jukka Rautakorpi, as Rautakorpi is clearly playing Juuso Puustinen and Reid Gardiner much more on 5 on 5 hockey. Today Kemell got a bit over 15 minutes while Puustinen and Gardiner both got over 20 minutes of ice time.

Well, at least Kemell gets quite good PP ice time. But honestly he is a clearly better player offensively than Puustinen or Gardiner, so I think he should get at least as much ice time as they get, as he isn't bad defensively either. Unfortunately coach Rautakorpi is a pretty concervative old fart who will trust his veterans even too much compared to young talents, so I’m not expecting this situation to change much during the season.

Also a bit problematic for Kemell’s success this season has been that he has stubbornly been stuck with low class linemates. He has lately been playing with Severi Lahtinen who is supposed to have good skills, but is a soft and low intensity player with attitude problems and has now 0+1=1 points in his 11 Liiga games this season, and the center in the line has been Aaro Vidgren who is a very low class playmaker and more like a goalscoring center who isn't a particularly good goalscorer either. Vidgren scored last season 7+0=7 points in 50 games and this season he has scored goals with a better pace as he has 4+0=4 points in 11 games. But 0 assists in 61 Liiga games is just absolutely unbelievably bad playmaking for any center at the Liiga level. Just insane to play a clear sniper like Kemell with this kind of linemates and for 15 minutes per game. Its’s like practically trying to make him fail.

Let's start with the fact that he is not in the doghouse but like most older head coaches in Finland, Rautakorpi likes to be disciplined defensively. Kemell is not the most defensively minded player so he is playing the season mostly in the third line. The 1st and 2nd line gets more ice time than his line. He is on the 2nd PP line that's been quite lethal because that wicked shot of Kemell. He has scored most of his goals from that same spot. He likes to aim at the front upper corner or at least near the post. That is why he sometimes shots little over and little wide but when he hits is well, it is damn hard and accurate.

Second thing that comes to mind that he started with his season with Lassila as his center. Lassila and Kemell have been playing together for years and even played together in national team in youth level (U18). It was just recently when coach Rautakorpi decidedro drop Lassila from the playing roster that Vidgren, who is actually a winger, was put in the center position for the 3rd line. Lassila apparently was not good enough defensively. There are rumors that JYP is looking for another center, one that iwould fit better for Kemell. We shall see if JYP will get their man.

He is still young and will develop all aspects of the game. In JYP the more experienced guys like Puustinen, Rooba and Gardiner has more pressure to score points so Kemell gets to play in less mental pressure to succeed. Although he is still the main weapon JYP has in PP but the opponent teams will try to shut him down as JYP PP, at least when he is on the ice is quite one dimensional. Get the puck to Niku who will try to pass it to Kemell who will one timer the shot towards the net.

 

[Ippenator]

Let's start with the fact that he is not in the doghouse but like most older head coaches in Finland, Rautakorpi likes to be disciplined defensively. Kemell is not the most defensively minded player so he is playing the season mostly in the third line. The 1st and 2nd line gets more ice time than his line. He is on the 2nd PP line that's been quite lethal because that wicked shot of Kemell. He has scored most of his goals from that same spot. He likes to aim at the front upper corner or at least near the post. That is why he sometimes shots little over and little wide but when he hits is well, it is damn hard and accurate.

Second thing that comes to mind that he started with his season with Lassila as his center. Lassila and Kemell have been playing together for years and even played together in national team in youth level (U18). It was just recently when coach Rautakorpi decidedro drop Lassila from the playing roster that Vidgren, who is actually a winger, was put in the center position for the 3rd line. Lassila apparently was not good enough defensively. There are rumors that JYP is looking for another center, one that iwould fit better for Kemell. We shall see if JYP will get their man.

He is still young and will develop all aspects of the game. In JYP the more experienced guys like Puustinen, Rooba and Gardiner has more pressure to score points so Kemell gets to play in less mental pressure to succeed. Although he is still the main weapon JYP has in PP but the opponent teams will try to shut him down as JYP PP, at least when he is on the ice is quite one dimensional. Get the puck to Niku who will try to pass it to Kemell who will one timer the shot towards the net.

Do you think it is smart to put Kemell with the weakest playmaking center who isn’t really even a center originally? Vidgren has 0 assists from his last 61 Liiga games. When you have a true sniper in your team, you are supposed to have some players that can pass the puck in the same line and help him use his best asset for the benefit of the team.

Also Vidgren isn’t known to be exactly the best defensive forward either, so it really sounds like an excuse that Kemell isn’t the greatest defensively. But I can also honestly say that Kemell isn’t a clear liability defensively, so he should really be with some more offensively talented players.

And btw, Lahtinen has been most of the season in the same line with Kemell and he is the worst forward of JYP defensively and right now he can do practically nothing useful offensively either because the dude is passive and soft like butter. So the truth is that Kemell has really the worst possible linemates he could have in JYP. Players who absolutely don’t compliment his skills by any means.

Bad coaching even which way you try to twist it. I understand that you are JYP fan and want to think of Rautakorpi helping the team with his coaching, but honestly he is one of those older dinosaur coaches that have fallen off the wagon of progress.

 

[Fintastic]

Do you think it is smart to put Kemell with the weakest playmaking center who isn’t really even a center originally?

Also Vidgren isn’t known to be exactly the best defensive forward either, so it really sounds like an excuse that Kemell isn’t the greatest defensively.

And btw, Lahtinen has been most of the season in the same line with Kemell and he is the worst forward of JYP defensively and right now he can do practically nothing useful offensively either because the dude is passive and soft like butter. So the truth is that Kemell has really the worst possible linemates he could have in JYP. Players who absolutely don’t compliment his skills by any means.

Bad coaching even which way you try to twist it. I understand that you are JYP fan and want to think of Rautakorpi helping the team with his coaching, but honestly he is one of those older dinosaur coaches that have fallen of the wagon of progress.

It is not about the individual player but a team as a whole. I agree that sometimes those lines have not worked well, especially the defensive pairings.

About Vidgren, he has been known to be a good forward against the other teams top players and a pk specialist so yeah, he is good defensively, great even when he has a good like. He started as our 4th line winger and he has been effective both ends of the rink. The roles are simply in that line at the moment. Vidgren is the muscle, Lahtinen is the playmaker and Kemell is the scorer. Lahtinen has great hands but too often tries to make a flashy move but ends up losing the puck. That is the main issue with that line and the face offs. Vidgren being a winger, he rarely wins a face off. That is it at the moment until JYP gets that center they are looking for.

And yes, I am a JYP fan unlike you and unlike you, I have seen all of JYP's games this season.

 

[Ippenator]

It is not about the individual player but a team as a whole. I agree that sometimes those lines have not worked well, especially the defensive pairings.

About Vidgren, he has been known to be a good forward against the other teams top players and a pk specialist so yeah, he is good defensively, great even when he has a good like. He started as our 4th line winger and he has been effective both ends of the rink. The roles are simply in that line at the moment. Vidgren is the muscle, Lahtinen is the playmaker and Kemell is the scorer. Lahtinen has great hands but too often tries to make a flashy move but ends up losing the puck. That is the main issue with that line and the face offs. Vidgren being a winger, he rarely wins a face off. That is it at the moment until JYP gets that center they are looking for.

And yes, I am a JYP fan unlike you and unlike you, I have seen all of JYP's games this season.

I have watched most of JYP games this and last season in fact, as it has been a team that I symphatize very much after my favorite team Ilves. In fact last season I watched JYP games much more than Ilves games because of much more interesting young talents in JYP.

And once again, it is just plain awful to put a sniper with a center like Vidgren, who has not a single assist in his last 61 games. Also Lahtinen isn’t at all a good playmaker. He is a dangler who is soft like butter. He isn't a good passer because he holds on to the puck too much. And as he is so soft and passive he loses way too easily the puck. And defensively he is no use at all - just a liability. Just a plain awful combination and complete waste of the goalscoring potential that could help JYP win more games.

But yeah, I definitely understand how desperately you want to believe in Rautakorpi being a good coach for JYP after last years disaster. We people always need the feel of some hope.