Prospect Info: Joakim Kemell, 17th Overall, 2022 NHL Draft

[triggrman]

Maybe because I dont have an IG account...

well I'd say that's a good start

 

[ChicagoBullsFan]

 

[Soundgarden]

Video unavailable :/ Two goals though, impressive start.

 

[m0rkoli]

6-1 to Finland... Kemell 2+2 nice start for the tournament

 

[LaMasquerade]

Game highlights.. first 1:15 is with swedish commentators (both Kemell goals during that), but it switches to english after that.

 

[BB88]

He’s going to make so many Gm’s look bad.

This drafts DeBrincat

 

[MarVell]

He’s going to make so many Gm’s look bad.

This drafts DeBrincat

He’s been pretty bad against the czechs.

 

[BB88]

He’s been pretty bad against the czechs.

Finland was bad.

You can see in him that he’s going to be a threat in the offensive zone, his shot is a lazer

 

[AintLifeGrand]

He’s been pretty bad against the czechs.

he had an assist

 

[MarVell]

Finland was bad.

You can see in him that he’s going to be a threat in the offensive zone, his shot is a lazer

Agree about his shot. Not the rest though.

 

[AintLifeGrand]

Agree about his shot. Not the rest though.

you need to send Kemmell an invoice bc he is living rent free in your head!!!

 

[Flgatorguy87]

you need to send Kemmell an invoice bc he is living rent free in your head!!!

That guy seems to only seek out threads about Finns and then tries to shit on them. Interesting world we live in.

 

[triggrman]

That guy seems to only seek out threads about Finns and then tries to shit on them. Interesting world we live in.

Wow, I went and read his post and this is spot on. My baseball coach way back in little league told us, there are 2 types of teammates, 1 the player that picked you up after every play good or bad, this is usually one of the better players, better leaders on the team, 2 the player that bashed you when you did something wrong or had a bad play, usually deep down this player isn't happy, probably lacks confidence and will eventually quit the sport.

 

[MarVell]

you need to send Kemmell an invoice bc he is living rent free in your head!!!

Will do!

 

[ChicagoBullsFan]

That was close to cause serious knee injury.
Ny Rangers prospect Adam Sykora knees Kemell and gets ejected ( 5+20 ).
Kemell was able to finish the game after that and he recorded 2 assists.

 

[PredsV82]

That was close to cause serious knee injury.
Ny Rangers prospect Adam Sykora knees Kemell and gets ejected ( 5+20 ).
Kemell was able to finish the game after that and he recorded 2 assists.

Who is that idiot broadcaster? Like any player is going to just come up and say "yeah, I meant that"

Intent or not he led with his knee.

 

[ChicagoBullsFan]

Who is that idiot broadcaster? Like any player is going to just come up and say "yeah, I meant that"

Intent or not he led with his knee.

If you mean that Finnish version which i shared first
^^ ( i changed it that because Finnish version could've been geo-blocked )
the broadcaster was Oskari Saari and commentator was Ismo Lehkonen ( Artturi Lehkonen's father )
who's son Artturi won stanley cup championship in Colorado Avalanche this season.

 

[Ippenator]

If you mean that Finnish version which i shared first
^^ ( i changed it that because Finnish version could've been geo-blocked )
the broadcaster was Oskari Saari and commentator was Ismo Lehkonen ( Artturi Lehkonen's father )
who's son Artturi won stanley cup championship in Colorado Avalanche this season.

He is North American, so obviously he is talking about the english clip that you posted. There the commentator is idioticly talking about the kneeing not being intentional, or something as stupid as that.

Who cares if someone intentionally makes a dangerous play? If you do it you are playing sloppy and careless, and that makes you practically as much responsible for the dangerous play as any intention would make.

 

[Flgatorguy87]

Whew, that could've been brutal.

 

[nine_inch_fang]

Who is that idiot broadcaster? Like any player is going to just come up and say "yeah, I meant that"

Intent or not he led with his knee.

Pretty sure that's Craig Button (sp?)

 

[Olderfan]

Been watching Finland games. Kemel is very good. Good draft choice who should not have been available at that late a pick. Must have been injury related or fear thereof. Preds, please don’t mess him up pushing D, D, D on him too much. He’s a pure shooter; let him shoot! He’s really a very good O prospect that we haven’t seen that much of lately.(apologies to Tomasino and Tolvanen).

 

[AintLifeGrand]

Here is some analysis on Kemmell: Would be cool if OTF would post this stuff so I don't have to

2022 World Juniors Notebook: Matthew Coronato’s off-puck play, Joakim Kemell’s playmaking and more

Mitch Brown highlights a quintet of standout performances from the final two days of the World Juniors' preliminary round.

eprinkside.com

Joakim Kemell, RW, Finland (Nashville Predators)

The NHL shooting game is much more than power, accuracy, and volume. It’s about timing and awareness — anticipating windows of opportunity and exploiting them at the perfect moment. There’s also a threshold of playmaking skill that most 30-goal-scorers must reach. The vision and skill to initiate and complete give-and-goes help players beat defenders without relying on inefficient 1-on-1 plays, while the threat of a dangerous pass keeps the opposition honest.

Kemell didn’t reach that threshold last season, defaulting to low-percentage shots with better-positioned teammates and failing to build plays. Through the preliminary round of this tournament, Kemell has flipped, almost becoming too eager to pass in some situations.

Where Kemell previously forced a low-percentage shot, he now stops and waits for support. Subtle transition plays, like short-range touch passes, have allowed him to bypass defenders without the need for dekeing through them. Instead of shooting when he runs out of space, he’s cutting back and finding the trailer, sometimes in spectacular fashion. On the powerplay, Kemell has started layering deception on his plays, like turning his body and eyes to the point, drawing a penalty killer away from his preferred cross-slot lane.


Those changes haven’t just made Kemell a better shot-creator for his teammates; he’s building plays, creating better looks for himself in the process. If he builds off this increased willingness to pass, there’s a real chance that he will exceed not only the No. 17 overall spot where the Predators picked him but also the No. 10-rank where Elite Prospects ranked him for his draft class.

 

[Armourboy]

Been watching Finland games. Kemel is very good. Good draft choice who should not have been available at that late a pick. Must have been injury related or fear thereof. Preds, please don’t mess him up pushing D, D, D on him too much. He’s a pure shooter; let him shoot! He’s really a very good O prospect that we haven’t seen that much of lately.(apologies to Tomasino and Tolvanen).

This is such a silly narrative that needs to be let go of. Good players do not get worse because a team or coach expects them to not be a defensive liability while on the ice. It does no good for you to score 30g a season if your bad defense is the cause of 35g going the other way.

Forsberg, Fiala, Arvy, heck even Craig Smith didn't become worse players because they were expected to not be garbage on the defensive side of the puck. Heck Smith played for us for years and was anything but what anyone would call good defensively, he just wasn't a liability on the ice. He even came up under Trotz of all coaches.

Tolvanen hasn't done anything offensively since that first half of the KHL season when teams let him sit on the wing and just take shots at the net. No one in the AHL nor NHL is going to let you do that. His scoring touch didn't suddenly just dry up because someone asked him to play some defense, its dried up because no one is going to allow him to skate around freely and just take wide open pot shots at the net on a nightly basis and he hasn't been able to adjust to that. It's not some crazy thought that his one stint here where he did look decent he was set up opposite of Forsberg so teams had to give him more leeway.

So you can get ready for it, they are going to ask him to at least not be a defensive liability on the ice, and if he can't do that then he's not nearly as good as everyone thought. Good players don't become bad because teams expect them to do the minimum it takes to play both sides of the ice.

 

[Scoresberg]

Not to derive from the main subject here but I think Tolvanen might be the most overrated prospect we've ever had in our system.

It was easy to buy the hype in his rookie year in the KHL, and I bought it as well. But let's not overlook the fact that the majority of his goals that season came before Christmas and they were pretty much only PP goals from the dot. So as a scorer, he was already very one-dimensional.

After that hot couple of months, he hasn't showed much anywhere. He has gotten better as a two-way player but there's not much there offensively other than the shot he might get off on the PP if he has the time.

 

[Olderfan]

This is such a silly narrative that needs to be let go of. Good players do not get worse because a team or coach expects them to not be a defensive liability while on the ice. It does no good for you to score 30g a season if your bad defense is the cause of 35g going the other way.

Forsberg, Fiala, Arvy, heck even Craig Smith didn't become worse players because they were expected to not be garbage on the defensive side of the puck. Heck Smith played for us for years and was anything but what anyone would call good defensively, he just wasn't a liability on the ice. He even came up under Trotz of all coaches.

Tolvanen hasn't done anything offensively since that first half of the KHL season when teams let him sit on the wing and just take shots at the net. No one in the AHL nor NHL is going to let you do that. His scoring touch didn't suddenly just dry up because someone asked him to play some defense, its dried up because no one is going to allow him to skate around freely and just take wide open pot shots at the net on a nightly basis and he hasn't been able to adjust to that. It's not some crazy thought that his one stint here where he did look decent he was set up opposite of Forsberg so teams had to give him more leeway.

So you can get ready for it, they are going to ask him to at least not be a defensive liability on the ice, and if he can't do that then he's not nearly as good as everyone thought. Good players don't become bad because teams expect them to do the minimum it takes to play both sides of the ice.

You’re sort of ignoring that I did not say ignore D. I said don’t waste his O talent while pushing all D for that required AHL year. And he is very good offensively even at this youngster age. And I also think that coaches can hurt a player’s O. Everybody must not be a D liability but not everybody has very good O upside like this kid.