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"Nobody is afraid of Bedard"....Bruce Boudreau

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sr edler said:
A player billed as Bedard shouldn't have to have a "fit" regarding line-mates but should more or less be able to play with anyone and still come as advertised. That's the bar, unless you want to lower the bar.
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Here we go again.

Yes.

PLEASE “lower the bar”

So we can stop with these utterly ridiculous standards. He’s not gonna match the same level set by Gretzky/Mario/Crosby/McDavid…basically a who’s who of the greatest of the greats. BUT….is he gonna be potentially another Patrick Kane-caliber player? I think so. And again that shouldn’t be considered underwhelming or disappointing at all, in fact it’s something worth praising.
 
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olli said:
He’s actually pretty big for a guy his age that’s in the nhl, having that muscle actually translate to strength while playing hockey is his issue. There’s plenty of elite players that probably have similar amounts of muscle or less (look at the clip of McDavid shirtless in the Amazon documentary).
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He’s 5’10” listed at 185, probably between 175-180 based on pictures, and has a terrible frame for putting on muscle mass.
 
I disagree with Bruce
That haircut is nightmare fuel

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Empoleon8771 said:
This is such a lazy rebuttal to the criticisms of the obvious flaws in Bedard's game.

He's Patrick Kane if the Hawks sucked when they got Kane and forced him to play center.
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Saying he has flaws and giving criticisms of his play is one thing. Saying things like “he’ll never be better than McDavid” or “no one is afraid of Bedard” drip with meathead insecurity

Bedard could turn into the second coming of Nail Yakupov and it would still be a smug attempt to belittle the player.
 
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barkovcanfinnish said:
Saying he has flaws and giving criticisms of his play is one thing. Saying things like “he’ll never be better than McDavid” or “no one is afraid of Bedard” drip with meathead insecurity

Bedard could turn into the second coming of Nail Yakupov and it would still be a smug attempt to belittle the player.
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This is just kind of the sad truth about the way people are, you're gonna have a large portion out there that are bitter and petty and its not going to stop. And then the way their misinformation and (sometimes)utter BS spreads to others who take it and run with it and repeat it themselves....its very unfortunate.

This whole thing about how he was overhyped and how he's not the next McDavid/Crosby....when will we move on from this? Its like you could give someone a list of the different things Bedard has already done that are extremely impressive for a 19 year old to accomplish in the NHL....and all you'd hear back is "yeah but he's not generational yada yada yada".....as if what others completely beyond his control said about him or predicted before he was drafted is somehow all that matters. Its soooooo silly.
 
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sr edler said:
A player billed as Bedard shouldn't have to have a "fit" regarding line-mates but should more or less be able to play with anyone and still come as advertised. That's the bar, unless you want to lower the bar.
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What is the bar? Generational Talent?

And who made said bar? Cause I can’t be quoted in this thread once calling him that.

People saying he reminds them of RNH or Hall are gonna get roasted in this thread in a few years. Speaking of Hall, I don’t ever recall him and a young Mcdavid meshing well. TT is just a bad fit. He’s extremely weak and I wouldn’t want him near any of our young forwards for that reason. The Canes let him walk for an affordable rate because they know he’s just a mediocre middle six forward. I liked him as a young Hawk but he’s the same exact player we let go of almost 8 years later. Happy we only have him for two more years. On a team that has drafted a lot of smaller forwards I don’t want another aging one in our top 9 long term.
 
See him more as a Kane/Stamkos type , guys you can most certainly win important hockey games with. His insane junior numbers did him a disservice he's just not build like those franchise generational guys.

People are a little harsh on him because of the hype but he's gonna be a great player
 
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I will never understand this media over-hyping of teenagers (which leads to fans' overhyping of teenagers) coming into the NHL. For his age (19), Bedard is outproducing about 98% of players in history.

Don't even start judging players until they're at least 20... or 21... or 22...
 
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Chilllllll. He's a teenager. Playing with potentially the worst roster in the NHL right now. Especially after trading Hall.

Check in with me in 4 years when he's still just 23. Bet he's a 100+ point player and the Hawks are on the rise.
 
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VeteranPresence said:
You need more than an elite shot to thrive at this level, but Bedard also doesn't have the supporting cast yet to make up for the other weaknesses in his game. This is why the upcoming Draft is so important, the Hawks have a few very tantalizing options to potentially pair with him in the years to come and they can't afford to screw it up.
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Bedard has great hands and good vision/playmaking, definitely has more than just an elite shot. In fact he's been much more of a playmaker in the NHL than a shooter/scorer so far.
 
Bubbles said:
Agreed.

The people at TSN should be ashamed of themselves. They put up a nothing article. 46 Pts in 53 game is struggling? Talk about gaslighting.

Let the kid play, he's 19 years old.
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Ice time:
22nd in total ice time
8th in 5vs5 Ice time
81st in PP ice time

Points:
45th in total pts
123rd in 5vs5 pts
20th in PP pts

He's 183rd in pts per 60 min

He's just not at that level

KillerMillerTime said:
Paul Kariya 2.0 and that's fine Hawks fans.
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Kariya was a superstar, zero similarities in their game
 
He has like 20 points less than McDavid did at this point in his career. McDavid had Taylor Hall, Jordan Eberle, Nuge.

Bedard had Taylor Hall’s corpse, Tyler Bertuzzi and Phillip Kurashev.
 
He couldn't have gone to a worst situation. to be fair. Blackhawks went scorch the earth rebuild to a degree not many have done before.

Oilers had a bunch of top end draft picks that were already there by the time McDavid arrived so all eyes weren't exactly on him but it was more of a group effort, Crosby had Mario, Gonchar and LeClair to pick their brains along with MAF in net and Malkin on the way.

Bedard couldn't have done worse. Blackhawks after an incredibly horrific scandal went scorch the earth rebuild wanting nothing to do with any vet that previously had success with the team and then proceeded to also trade any youngish player with any value. Now Bedard is surrounded by youth with much less expectations than him and vets who pretty much know they signed a contract with a team that probably won't win anything while they are there.
 
Luigi Lemieux said:
The difference i see there is MacKinnon was a physical beast and Hughes an elite skater. Bedard is small, slow, and weak. He's certainly talented but his physical attributes hold him back a bit. He's going to be an elite player but top 3 like MacKinnon? i have doubts.
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He’s never going to be a physical freak so he should focus on improving his game as much as possible and he can be a very smart offensive wizard similar to Kucherov or Kane (albeit not as good as either)
 
LeProspector said:
I can’t wait for Bedard to get a proper supporting cast.
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Same. That way we can see for sure he’s clearly not close to the level of Crosby and McDavid. Imagine McDavid or Crosby being outwcored by Ryan Donato?

SimpleJack said:
Here we go again.

Yes.

PLEASE “lower the bar”

So we can stop with these utterly ridiculous standards. He’s not gonna match the same level set by Gretzky/Mario/Crosby/McDavid…basically a who’s who of the greatest of the greats. BUT….is he gonna be potentially another Patrick Kane-caliber player? I think so. And again that shouldn’t be considered underwhelming or disappointing at all, in fact it’s something worth praising.
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I would say there’s a good chance he doesn’t end up as good as Kane.
 
The biggest problem with Bedard is that he causes 1.5 goals against for every point he scores due to abysmal defensive game. That does not exactly strike fear into one's opponents, no.
 
Bedard is going to be good but nothing he’s done eye test wise really makes me go “wow”. I question how dynamic of a player he will be, like he’s certainly going to be good but not as good as he was hyped.
 
Coach Reggie Dunlop said:
Bedard is going to be good but nothing he’s done eye test wise really makes me go “wow”. I question how dynamic of a player he will be, like he’s certainly going to be good but not as good as he was hyped.
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Hard for me to put too much stock into “eye test” around here when it’s become blatantly obvious that so many of these posters haven’t actually watched enough of his games to form a legitimate opinion.
 
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