Post-Game Talk: Jets Crowned 3-2

[Saidin]

I suspect it is the weight of being the #1 Dman on a team that doesn't even have a #2. Trying to do too much.

Or a #3 or #4....

 

[Robinson2187]

front yard

LOL. I wanted to post exactly that but thought the mods might take issue.

See! Sometimes I think b4 posting.

 

[ffh]

Wheeler must of gave Maurice a stern talking about being demoted to the second line

The jokes on wheeler then that would have been the 1st line in terms of production.

 

[Robinson2187]

Best complete game throughout the lineup 2 nights ago vs the Oilers.....to that.

WTF?

So are these wild swings due in part to some kind of coaching deficiency?

Or, is it that the team is still young?

Maybe a combination?

 

[Ducky10]

So are these wild swings due in part to some kind of coaching deficiency?

Or, is it that the team is still young?

Maybe a combination?

Yes

 

[Mud Turtle]

Last year vs. this year so far - looks like they're sacrificing a lot of offense for marginal defensive gains... Play to your strengths, Paul (I mean the team's strengths...not your personal horniness for shutdown hockey and unproductive zone time).
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Looks to me that the front of the net is a problem on both sides of the ice.
And in both years.
Not really a surprise.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

LOL. I wanted to post exactly that but thought the mods might take issue.

See! Sometimes I think b4 posting.

Hmmm, inciting vandalism? I suppose it could be taken that way.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

Last year vs. this year so far - looks like they're sacrificing a lot of offense for marginal defensive gains... Play to your strengths, Paul (I mean the team's strengths...not your personal horniness for shutdown hockey and unproductive zone time).
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OK, but i was thinking of PP that can't score, PK that can't defend, top players spending too much time bottled up in own end. Like that.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

He's a power forward now.

You can't be both?????

 

[Evil Little]

Maurice likely has at least 2 years left on his contract.

Source?

 

[Robinson2187]

Hmmm, inciting vandalism? I suppose it could be taken that way. How about facing his house but across the street?

Exactly. I thought about that kicker in Regina who had his yard trashed cuz he missed that field goal in the GC. Didn't want to take it down that road just in case.

 

[LowLefty]

Don't disagree - but in fairness, they are not aiming for the net. They are aiming for a little target in a top corner. And they are missing that on the outside.

Yup - they are missing. Pro's need to hit those spots more often.
We have the shooters that can do exactly that -
It's more to do with luck than anything - I'll always assume these guys can score but this is a bit of a dry spell that frustrating.

This should be an area of he game that we do better than most - I'm waiting for that to happen. Odds are it should soon with the quality of shots we are currently getting

 

[Pigseye]

Time to move Wheeler to the third line and Roslovic up with Little & Conner.

 

[Robinson2187]

Time to move Wheeler to the third line and Roslovic up with Little & Conner.

In a pig's eye!

Sorry couldn't resist

 

[Zhamnov5GoalGame]

LSW were generally spending too much time without the puck and chasing it. Not to defend them but I noticed (or thought I noticed) a terrible trend where the Jets have the puck and start the change to get the big guns out. It seems like our D always dump the puck (sometimes without much pressure on them) at this exact moment. Virtually giving the other team the puck and forcing LSW to steal it back.

that forward line needs to do better but it really seems like the D is shooting them in the foot every time they come out. In many of those scenarios there was plenty of time and space to delay and keep possession.

 

[ATLbound]

LSW were generally spending too much time without the puck and chasing it. Not to defend them but I noticed (or thought I noticed) a terrible trend where the Jets have the puck and start the change to get the big guns out. It seems like our D always dump the puck (sometimes without much pressure on them) at this exact moment. Virtually giving the other team the puck and forcing LSW to steal it back.

that forward line needs to do better but it really seems like the D is shooting them in the foot every time they come out. In many of those scenarios there was plenty of time and space to delay and keep possession.

yes not only have our defence well even forwards for that matter been dumping way too much, our defence have been dumping it with no pressure before our forwards even clear the zone. So that means no forecheck and an easy breakout for the other team. So bad. Coaching? Or just terrible low IQ defence? Or both

 

[Zhamnov5GoalGame]

yes not only have our defence well even forwards for that matter been dumping way too much, our defence have been dumping it with no pressure before our forwards even clear the zone. So that means no forecheck and an easy breakout for the other team. So bad. Coaching? Or just terrible low IQ defence? Or both

Probably both.
Our "plan" in the last couple of minutes with the tender pulled was pathetic. Just useless dump in after dump in with little to no hope of recovery. It's a 6 on 4 for $%#$'s sake.

 

[The Big M]

practice line today ESW and CLL i guess Maurice did not like the last 30 min last night

Yah I see the same things that everyone else does. Sure I'm concerned we didn't react well to LA's game...we were too slow.

And yes CLL was not very good at times last year. But that was mostly on Laine.
A 20-year-old hockey player reacting too slowly out there? It happens.

This year you can see the difference in Laine's hustle and quicker reaction times. Potentially, this could be the best 2nd line in hockey.

And ESW you say? It's funny how one minute people are complaining that Ehlers should get more time out there and then complain the next minute when Ehlers is placed on the first line.

Does anyone remember a couple of years ago when Maurice first ran with ESW for a while and they were producing points near the top of all lines? Anyone?

So....when everyone is firing on all cylinders, these two lines could or should be the best 1st line in hockey and the best 2nd line! Haters bring it on!

Let's leave our defensemen out of this for now okay?

 

[Board Bard]

LSW were generally spending too much time without the puck and chasing it. Not to defend them but I noticed (or thought I noticed) a terrible trend where the Jets have the puck and start the change to get the big guns out. It seems like our D always dump the puck (sometimes without much pressure on them) at this exact moment. Virtually giving the other team the puck and forcing LSW to steal it back.

that forward line needs to do better but it really seems like the D is shooting them in the foot every time they come out. In many of those scenarios there was plenty of time and space to delay and keep possession.

I wouldn't peg the Jets as one of the smartest teams in the league. They also seem to have poor memories. Neither of those is conducive to creating or keeping an advantage.

 

[Kaako Kappo]

Yah I see the same things that everyone else does. Sure I'm concerned we didn't react well to LA's game...we were too slow.

And yes CLL was not very good at times last year. But that was mostly on Laine.
A 20-year-old hockey player reacting too slowly out there? It happens.

This year you can see the difference in Laine's hustle and quicker reaction times. Potentially, this could be the best 2nd line in hockey.

And ESW you say? It's funny how one minute people are complaining that Ehlers should get more time out there and then complain the next minute when Ehlers is placed on the first line.

Does anyone remember a couple of years ago when Maurice first ran with ESW for a while and they were producing points near the top of all lines? Anyone?

So....when everyone is firing on all cylinders, these two lines could or should be the best 1st line in hockey and the best 2nd line! Haters bring it on!

Let's leave our defensemen out of this for now okay?

When CLL was good it was mostly on Laine and when it was bad it was mostly on Laine.



I'm fine with the lines but I do find the lack of accountability our captain has a little bit hilarious.

 

[behemolari]

I think that unless the Jets go on a tear soon and build confidence, they’ll be missing out on the playoffs.

I thought that middle of the second game

 

[behemolari]

To my eyes, Laine's shot hasn't been what it once was. When he gets open looks, he misses the net half the time. Not sure how you blame PM for that. Good thing he is playing a more physical game.as he would be totally useless otherwise.

absolutely, but it will eventually be. we need autogoal

 

[Farmboy Patty]

His shot hasn't been the same in about 2 years.

I think it was just a matter of him devoting nearly all of his time on the ice, to perfect his shot, which he is no longer doing. So he's bound to be less accurate with it. This used to be a guy who just shot, shot and shot, all day long during training. For some reason, people just seemed to act as if he's magically going to continue having a great shot while no longer working on it as much as other aspects of the game. Sad to say, but playing a more "physical game" has taken away from his pure goal-scoring abilities.

Laine shoots in a "high risk/high reward" manner, trying to pick the far corners, which often results in missing the net for players with an average-to-good shot. Only a great shot can score with such attempts on a regular basis.

Laine still has a very hard shot, though, so he might be better off targeting the center and just trying to get rebounds for other players. Especially in scenarios where you have a bunch of your players around the net. The days of him regularly scoring top shelf at long distances, are probably over though. Better off just trying to hit the net and hoping that something goes through by sheer volume (as Ovechkin tends to do).

I'm wondering if playing as a "power forward" takes its toll on a players accuracy during a game? I mean, executing a perfectly placed shot should be easier when your arms and body are fresh. I can't think of many snipers that also play a heavy game. As an example, Ovechkin, who plays a heavy game, scores by having a huge shot volume and hard shot. His accuracy is only decent. I think that if Laine is going to continue on this new path towards being a power forward, his shot volume needs to go up.

 

[Howard Chuck]

LSW were generally spending too much time without the puck and chasing it. Not to defend them but I noticed (or thought I noticed) a terrible trend where the Jets have the puck and start the change to get the big guns out. It seems like our D always dump the puck (sometimes without much pressure on them) at this exact moment. Virtually giving the other team the puck and forcing LSW to steal it back.

that forward line needs to do better but it really seems like the D is shooting them in the foot every time they come out. In many of those scenarios there was plenty of time and space to delay and keep possession.

Along with flipping the puck out of our zone, virtually guaranteeing that the opposition gains possession and starts right back into our zone.

The coaching is absolutely terrible, especially with this roster.

 

[Howard Chuck]

Probably both.
Our "plan" in the last couple of minutes with the tender pulled was pathetic. Just useless dump in after dump in with little to no hope of recovery. It's a 6 on 4 for $%#$'s sake.

Pathetic really is the word for the strategy at that point.... you have so many options for gaining the zone and you leave your best one (Ehlers) on the bench. I just don't understand???

Most times I assume that Maurice simply knows more than I do, as he should, but sometimes it absolutely amazes me, some of the decisions he makes.

Watch how we attempt to gain the zone with a man (or two) advantage as compared to teams successful at it. We slowly meander up the ice and let the other team get set, other teams are going full speed across our blue line. Our second PP line is FAR better at gaining the zone simply because they come in with speed.

Put Ehlers on PP1 in place of Connor or even Wheeler, and we will have much more success. Then leave them out there for two minutes if need be. Other teams do that a lot.

Even I know that