Post-Game Talk: Jets crown a new Vezina King 4-0 loss

[Jets 31]

drilled into the goalie. that was scheifele if you breathe on him he loses his balance.

Scheif , the guy who just won the previous game ? Ya trade him for a bag of pucks .

 

[ffh]

Scheif , the guy who just won the previous game ? Ya trade him for a bag of pucks .

how did you get trade him outta that.

 

[Howard Chuck]

The "coach" has nothing to do with Laine forgetting how to put a little zip into his shots - that is all my post was about.
Eight shots and nothing that looked like it gave this rookie goal tender any trouble what so ever.
He needs to get his shot going - regardless of how well he is playing over all.

But, TBH, I'm not surprised that the "coach" is blamed - it's an easy way to slide over the shortfalls.
Laine played a good solid game but his shot is not what it used to be - he needs to get it back on track.

I don't think that Laine is intentionally not putting 'zip' into his shots. Some of the areas that he had to shoot from last night were kind of tight, but at least he got a shot off.

Again, he made space for himself quite a bit last night, but the play stayed on the perimeter. It would be nice if his team mates looked up from the boards a little bit and made some 'man passes' to him

Whoever is to blame for the lack of offence, it needs to stop. We have a very talented forward group and there is no reason for us to have such difficulty scoring goals. Players/coach/mascot, I don't care, just start doing what needs to be done to score.

 

[Jets 31]

how did you get trade him outta that.

If a guy falls over because you breathe on him , he's pretty much useless right ? Mind you we are paying Frenchie 4 million to be a human zamboni so .

 

[Jets 31]

The Jets have played like trash on many nights and relied on Hellebuck to bail them out and players have even said so in post game interviews in both losses and wins.

When Hellebuyck is bad we are definitely going to drop in the standings.

It is never good to beat the tires off your hot goalie by giving him no support.

That guy needs a new pit crew , bad .

 

[surixon]

The "coach" has nothing to do with Laine forgetting how to put a little zip into his shots - that is all my post was about.
Eight shots and nothing that looked like it gave this rookie goal tender any trouble what so ever.
He needs to get his shot going - regardless of how well he is playing over all.

But, TBH, I'm not surprised that the "coach" is blamed - it's an easy way to slide over the shortfalls.
Laine played a good solid game but his shot is not what it used to be - he needs to get it back on track.

Not disagreeing with that but at the same time it doesn't matter how well you shoot you aren't beating many NHL quality goalies from outside the slot with any regularity. That is where the bulk of our shots are coming from this year and according to the coach a lot of that is by design.

Last night I though Laine ripped a few hard shots and had a few duds. Sometimes when your focus is on improving other areas you aren't able to work on the other one as much. I'm more concerned about his accuracy then power.

Short answer. Laine needs to get his shot dialed in but our coach at the same time isn't incorporating a system that puts our shooter in the optimum spot to succeed.

 

[Ducky10]

drilled into the goalie. that was scheifele if you breathe on him he loses his balance.

It’s like you watch a different game than the rest of us. He was shoved directly from behind right into the goalie.

 

[Jets 31]

I'm thinnin Brossoit is probably starting next game just to give Helly a rest . Florida is scoring alot of goals right now , Brossoit says thanks alot coach .

 

[Jets 31]

It’s like you watch a different game than the rest of us. He was shoved directly from behind right into the goalie.

Great minds think alike .

 

[ffh]

It’s like you watch a different game than the rest of us. He was shoved directly from behind right into the goalie.

Lots of players get shoved scheifele has horrible balance and loses his edge alot from little pushes.

 

[tbcwpg]

Lots of players get shoved scheifele has horrible balance and loses his edge alot from little pushes.

He didn't stumble and crash into the goalie though, he stayed on his feet and kept moving, the defender gave him nowhere to go.

 

[Jets 31]

We need guys getting to the front of the net to screen the goalie or tip in shots , we are making it too easy for the goalies . If we can start doing that i think we'll be alright .

 

[winnipegger]

Colorado is legit. They will probably win the division. Jets were due for a loss and I'm not surprised it was this game.

Man I wish Lowry would put up some points. He's on pace for like 10 points or something. It would help.

 

[DannyGallivan]

Jets are collecting a whole lot of these this year

 

[DannyGallivan]

That is becausr the Jets do not have a star player. Mckinnion is a star, game changer and impact player.
Who is like that on the Jets?
There are talented players but the Jets game changer is recovering from ankle surgery.

Most teams in the NHL don't have a player of MacKinnon's calibre. The only player I'd take ahead of him is McDavid.

 

[Ducky10]

Lots of players get shoved scheifele has horrible balance and loses his edge alot from little pushes.

You’re kidding, right? I mean you have to be.

 

[ffh]

He didn't stumble and crash into the goalie though, he stayed on his feet and kept moving, the defender gave him nowhere to go.

Well the other 2 people who see the game so well dont agree with this they say he was pushed. Either way that's the second goalie he destroyed cause he didn't move.

 

[Ducky10]

Most teams in the NHL don't have a player of MacKinnon's calibre. The only player I'd take ahead of him is McDavid.

You’re right, those 2 are largely in a league of their own, but part of what puts them there is not only their amazing talent but their high work rate. That’s the most disappointing part of Scheifele’s game right now, he used to match that and it made him a better player. It’s not there like it was a couple years back, hard to know why.

 

[DannyGallivan]

You’re right, those 2 are largely in a league of their own, but part of what puts them there is not only their amazing talent but their high work rate. That’s the most disappointing part of Scheifele’s game right now, he used to match that and it made him a better player. It’s not there like it was a couple years back, hard to know why.

I thought Scheifele worked his butt off last night. I like his work along the boards and behind the net.

It would be helpful if the Jets caused more chaos in front of the net and in the slot. The book on the Jets seem to be that they play on the perimeter, either passing it back to the points or across ice. The other goalie almost always sees the shots (when they get through).

 

[FFHockey]

So a post calling to trade him because the poster feels the Jets are ruining him is a call to trade him because he's to blame? A, it's one post out of many in this thread alone, which isn't representative of the fan base as a whole, and B, it's not even a call to trade him because he's a bad player.

Poster feels Jets are ruining him? I am not sure that is what he is saying

I happen to think Laine is a good player, with a great shot sometimes, but he's overrated. If I could pick up a good forward and proven D-man for him, I would make the deal as GM. Laine does not show the speed and stick handling ability that "stars" do. With Connor and Ehlers you get speed and good stickhandling, and great shots -- but with Laine you get someone with just a great shot, and developing game. I would seriously think of trading him, and add more balance to the team by way of defenseman.

 

[Howard Chuck]

We need guys getting to the front of the net to screen the goalie or tip in shots , we are making it too easy for the goalies . If we can start doing that i think we'll be alright .

That is certainly one aspect of our game that needs to improve. Especially if one of our strategies is going to be deferring to the point a lot.

 

[Howard Chuck]

Most teams in the NHL don't have a player of MacKinnon's calibre. The only player I'd take ahead of him is McDavid.

And since a few people are comparing his abilities to Laine, remember that Mac only started coming into his own recently at 23 years old? I think that's right. Before that he had 50'ish point seasons.

More alarming to me is Scheifele who should be in his prime right now. He is still a very good player, but nothing like the dominant player of 2 years ago.

 

[Howard Chuck]

You’re right, those 2 are largely in a league of their own, but part of what puts them there is not only their amazing talent but their high work rate. That’s the most disappointing part of Scheifele’s game right now, he used to match that and it made him a better player. It’s not there like it was a couple years back, hard to know why.

Great minds think alike

 

[Howard Chuck]

I thought Scheifele worked his butt off last night. I like his work along the boards and behind the net.

It would be helpful if the Jets caused more chaos in front of the net and in the slot. The book on the Jets seem to be that they play on the perimeter, either passing it back to the points or across ice. The other goalie almost always sees the shots (when they get through).

Definitely an easy book on the Jets. I always say that if I can spot something, then it must be super obvious to actual hockey people.

 

[Ducky10]

I thought Scheifele worked his butt off last night. I like his work along the boards and behind the net.

It would be helpful if the Jets caused more chaos in front of the net and in the slot. The book on the Jets seem to be that they play on the perimeter, either passing it back to the points or across ice. The other goalie almost always sees the shots (when they get through).

h He worked hard offensively, but was disinterested coming back through the middle of the ice and in his own end. His two way game has gone to hell, uncommitted down low, cheats up high, drive by‘s in the neutral zone. MacKinnon’s back pressure and tenacity down low was impressive at times. Scheifele used to be much more similar in that regard.