Rumor: Jesse Puljujarvi Part 3: Maybe He Picked Out His Brain Through His Nose One Lick at a Time?

[CupofOil]

Anyone read this? It's a good article on how this Jesse situation is getting manipulated by the media and fans.

Edmonton Oilers: Edmonton Media Use Poorly Translated Quote in Attempt to Put Yet Another Nail in Puljujarvi’s Coffin.

Good article? It's utter trash just like all the other stuff that poser posts on his site.

I'm all for somebody defending JP if it's logical. I do think people are being too harsh with the personal insults against him (some of you should chill with that IMO) but this article is all about laying blame on everybody else and complaining about his character being trashed then in the same token, trashing others like Marody for instance.

I could go into more detail about what's wrong with this article but I've already wasted enough time on that garbage.

 

[North]

Lol BLH is just a bunch of JP fan boys. I am shocked people still post their garbage here.

I just can’t believe people think it’s a legit source for anything.

 

[Tad Mikowsky]

Don’t forget to buy the new shirt from BLH!

 

[FatherPucker]

Can you please warn us if you are going to link to some garbage site looking for hits. lol

Well... at least the BLH got Jesse translated right.

 

[Mara]

Sure, the translate could have been wrong. But what he doesn't address is the context surrounding that quote. Mistranslated quote or not, we still have a player who is trying to FORCE his way off a team that spent a 4th overall draft pick and wanted nothing but for him to succeed and contribute. So still, F*CK Jesse Puljujaarvi for leaving instead of putting his head down and going to work like every other NHLer that actually became an NHLer. He still thinks the solution is off this team, which means he thinks the problem is in Edmonton. A team with loads of winger oppurtunity, loads of center talent to support that winger, a new GM, and a new coach. Everything is set up for him to give it his best and make an impact on the Oilers, the fans would back him 110% in this endeavor. But nope, dumbass has set it in stone that he's out and there's no possible way for it to work in Edmonton.

There is the problem that his relationship with those top forwards could be poisoned, badly. If people on the team have said they don't want to play with him and he feels like he's at a dead end then his attitude is not that outlandish. Maybe it's a bit immature and he should just muscle through and "leave the coach no choice" but to make them play with him, but is that really a realistic expectation. I don't know. We have no idea what happened within the team and how their relationships are.

 

[Louis Cypher]

Good article? It's utter trash just like all the other stuff that poser posts on his site.

I'm all for somebody defending JP if it's logical. I do think people are being too harsh with the personal insults against him (some of you should chill with that IMO) but this article is all about laying blame on everybody else and complaining about his character being trashed then in the same token, trashing others like Marody for instance.

I could go into more detail about what's wrong with this article but I've already wasted enough time on that garbage.

My point of posting this is fans jump all over players and management from shoddy reporting in many cases. What Jesse said could most definately be taken out of context. Google translate it and then run with the article as a quote is pretty bad. My wife is Japanese and my assistant Chinese. They both laugh at how badly google translates stuff and warn about using it for important translations.

Press likes to miss quote with out translation to push their media outlets. When it's being badly translated it's free game for them I would say. Summer is slow they are looking for clicks so making soap opera out of this.

Should jesse shut up and not talk to the media. Yup.

 

[bone]

There is the problem that his relationship with those top forwards could be poisoned, badly. If people on the team have said they don't want to play with him and he feels like he's at a dead end then his attitude is not that outlandish. Maybe it's a bit immature and he should just muscle through and "leave the coach no choice" but to make them play with him, but is that really a realistic expectation. I don't know. We have no idea what happened within the team and how their relationships are.

This could very well be the case, but the mature way to handle it is having a personal conversation with the GM about why, and asking for an opportunity elsewhere. Instead they are plastering it all over the media, blaming others for misquoting them and playing the victim.

In the first scenario, a good GM would see where they are coming from and would try and work with them to a resolution which may even include staying quiet but starting the season with the team while continuing to work in the background towards a trade.

 

[Louis Cypher]

Can you please warn us if you are going to link to some garbage site looking for hits. lol

Like TSN running the same story in july that actually ran in may or june and calling it an update on the Jesse situation? May have the dates wrong but it was total bushleague journalism and the fans not in the know jumped all over Jesse again.

 

[frag2]

Like TSN running the same story in july that actually ran in may or june and calling it an update on the Jesse situation? May have the dates wrong but it was total bushleague journalism and the fans not in the know jumped all over Jesse again.

TSN was stupid to repost the same story. Was it clickbaity? Yea. Did it misrepresent anything? Not really because it is what Lehto and JP said albeit just repeating an old story

BLH, on the other hand, talks like the JP fanboys around here. Story spinning and never his fault. His tweets are even worse

 

[McTonyBrar]

Like TSN running the same story in july that actually ran in may or june and calling it an update on the Jesse situation? May have the dates wrong but it was total bushleague journalism and the fans not in the know jumped all over Jesse again.

Are you BLH?

 

[TopShelfGloveSide]

Like TSN running the same story in july that actually ran in may or june and calling it an update on the Jesse situation? May have the dates wrong but it was total bushleague journalism and the fans not in the know jumped all over Jesse again.

Beat it BLH

 

[CupofOil]

My point of posting this is fans jump all over players and management from shoddy reporting in many cases. What Jesse said could most definately be taken out of context. Google translate it and then run with the article as a quote is pretty bad. My wife is Japanese and my assistant Chinese. They both laugh at how badly google translates stuff and warn about using it for important translations.

Press likes to miss quote with out translation to push their media outlets. When it's being badly translated it's free game for them I would say. Summer is slow they are looking for clicks so making soap opera out of this.

Should jesse shut up and not talk to the media. Yup.

I'm not disputing that things can be lost in translation with the media and fans at times. I'm disputing you saying that it was a good article.
It was garbage written by a person with a heavy bias in this case who posts fake rumors for a living.

I just wanted to add that fans and media didn't jump all over JP because of shoddy reporting. They criticized the way he's been handling this way before this recent interview happened and for good reason due to Jesse's actions, nobody else's.

 

[Louis Cypher]

I'm not disputing that things can be lost in translation with the media and fans at times. I'm disputing you saying that it was a good article.
It was garbage written by a person with a heavy bias in this case who posts fake rumors for a living.

I just wanted to add that fans and media didn't jump all over JP because of shoddy reporting. They criticized the way he's been handling this way before this recent interview happened and for good reason due to Jesse's actions, nobody else's.

Sorry I meant to say good point of view. In the article take what it is. People here is so biased and jaded against the poor kid that they'll look at any excuse to jump on anything different than their narrative. As I've said before both sides are to blame.

 

[Louis Cypher]

Just to clarify I'm not a JP fanboy nor am I part of the angry mob that wants to Lynch him. I'm pissed off that he doesn't want to play here anymore but if you think about it if it's gotten so bad that he's willing to throw away his career rather than play here you would think it's more than what we know or has been reported. Add him to a long list of players who will never play here or have wanted out.

 

[TheNumber4]

There is the problem that his relationship with those top forwards could be poisoned, badly. If people on the team have said they don't want to play with him and he feels like he's at a dead end then his attitude is not that outlandish. Maybe it's a bit immature and he should just muscle through and "leave the coach no choice" but to make them play with him, but is that really a realistic expectation. I don't know. We have no idea what happened within the team and how their relationships are.

We have no idea what happened with the team and how their relationships are but lets speculate and place the blame on Draisaitl, McDavid and our top players for not wanting to play with him? Sorry, if were going to play the "we don't know what happened in the dressing room" game, you can't use it to support or dispute Jesse's position.

What we know is very simple. We know Jesse was given opportunities in to develop in the minors and the bigs. We know he was given opportunity to play a bottom 6 role and was given top 6 minutes despite not really having proven anything in a bottom 6 role. We know that when he shows well (preseason), this team is more than willing to give him a spot. We know that TWO coaches have already tried to make Jesse work, one going so far as to bring him out of the AHL to try to give him another lease on life halfway through the season. We know that there's a new coach here that would give him yet another opportunity and another look. And through all this, we know that despite all this, Jesse the f*ckin idiot that he is, goes PUBLIC with a trade request hurting the team and his own prospects of getting out of here like he wants.

What happened in the dressing room is pretty irrelevant if you ask me, we know more than enough confirmed things without having to speculate to rightfully staple Jesse's ass to a bench in Europe for the rest of his Oilers contract.

 

[TheNumber4]

Just to clarify I'm not a JP fanboy nor am I part of the angry mob that wants to Lynch him. I'm pissed off that he doesn't want to play here anymore but if you think about it if it's gotten so bad that he's willing to throw away his career rather than play here you would think it's more than what we know or has been reported. Add him to a long list of players who will never play here or have wanted out.

This assumes that he's smart enough to realize that he's throwing his career down the drain. With all the moves he and his genius agent have made I doubt this. And furthermore, IF, big IF, players in the dressing room don't like him and don't want to play with him, if he can't overcome a bit of social friction for the sake of his multi million dollar potential hockey career, then that's part of the problem with Jesse.

 

[Louis Cypher]

This assumes that he's smart enough to realize that he's throwing his career down the drain. With all the moves he and his genius agent have made I doubt this. And furthermore, IF, big IF, players in the dressing room don't like him and don't want to play with him, if he can't overcome a bit of social friction for the sake of his multi million dollar potential hockey career, then that's part of the problem with Jesse.

I agree that's why I think it's more.

 

[CupofOil]

Just to clarify I'm not a JP fanboy nor am I part of the angry mob that wants to Lynch him. I'm pissed off that he doesn't want to play here anymore but if you think about it if it's gotten so bad that he's willing to throw away his career rather than play here you would think it's more than what we know or has been reported. Add him to a long list of players who will never play here or have wanted out.

With all due respect, this comes across as JP fanboyish (if that's a word) with the bolded.

 

[Louis Cypher]

With all due respect, this comes across as JP fanboyish (if that's a word) with the bolded.

Sorry I disagree. It's pretty accurate that there is a long list of players.

I think he should shut up, suck it up and play for us. If not piss off to europe to prove his worth so we get an asset back.

I'm sure his agent told him that but he isnt listening to him hence why I think its more than reported. I can't see an agent who gets paid on contracts being signed would suggest he hold out.

So hes either a child and pouting, really dumb and not thinking it through or listening to his agent or was traumatized and doesn't ever want to return to the Oil no matter the cost. Will we ever know? Probably not for a while.

 

[TopShelfGloveSide]

Sorry I disagree. It's pretty accurate that there is a long list of players.

I think he should shut up, suck it up and play for us. If not piss off to europe to prove his worth so we get an asset back.

I'm sure his agent told him that but he isnt listening to him hence why I think its more than reported. I can't see an agent who gets paid on contracts being signed would suggest he hold out.

So hes either a child and pouting, really dumb and not thinking it through or listening to his agent or was traumatized and doesn't ever want to return to the Oil no matter the cost. Will we ever know? Probably not for a while.

Throw that word around pretty loosely hey?

 

[JustNapalmIt]

Are you BLH?

Crickets.

 

[harpoon]

Some members need to get over themselves.

1) BLH article is taking a different viewpoint and extrapolating. So what? I guess I should no longer be surprised to realize that some/many people just want to read the same old shit day after day as long as it conforms to their viewpoint.

2) BLH deserves to be mocked because he never breaks anything? He lives in rural Alberta or Taiwan? He has the nerve to monetize his site with some goofy looking shirts? He has some spelling, grammar errors in his work?

3) Some reasonable points are raised in his opinion piece. And I say this as someone who has posted here that JP was dead to me the day he went public with his stupid trade demands. I consider these to be valid points raised in the article ...

a)Translating software is a joke. I work with it everyday. If you are relying on translating software for your final results you either don’t care or you are an idiot. The ‘journalists’ using software for their published quotes can choose which of those hats they’d like to wear.

b)It takes a long time to learn a second language. As someone able to get by in a couple of languages I laugh and laugh and laugh at the people (like the goof in the BLH comment section) who think you should be ‘almost fluent’ in a year or two.

c)It was leaked that McDavid and Draisaitl don’t want to play with JP. It was discussed here at the time. It’s certainly possible that those statements were never made by the two best players on the team. I hope they weren’t. But it raises questions ... I wonder which of the non-Taiwan based, ‘professional’ journalists in Edmonton leaked that story and to what selfish end - it certainly wasn’t done for the good of the team. I wonder why everyone here seems to believe the leadership of the team made those comments, and it’s OK that they did. And I wonder how everyone thinks comments like that made by the two best players, true or not, would affect a foreign kid trying to fit into a hockey locker room.

d) Poor examples (Marody and Brassard) may have been chosen by BLH, but he isn’t wrong to state that there are many many examples of players who clash with coaches when it comes to the best way to overcome weaknesses in their game. Worse, as far as I know, we have no concrete evidence that JP disregarded coaching advice regarding his play on the ice. Maybe he’s just taking longer to ‘get it’? Maybe he just isn’t good enough? We don’t have to run with the narrative that he’s unwilling to be coached on top of everything else do we?

4) @Louis Cypher has been a member here since 2007. His post history shows him to be a reasonable and serious contributor. He posted a link to the appropriate thread in the dead days of summer and called it ‘interesting’. My goodness. What a terrible thing to do. Folks ridiculing him for the post or speculating as to an ulterior motive (he must be BLH) need to be very ashamed of themselves.

 

[Skolman]

Canadians fans seem to be willing to trade Byron in a deal for Jesse.

Wonder if we could somehow make a trade of Puljujarvi + Gagner/Manning for Byron work?

 

[Louis Cypher]

Crickets.

As Justin Hawkins sings in "One Way Ticket to Hell"

Stick it up your f***ing nose... woohoo!

 

[PuckNut]

I agree that's why I think it's more.

I think the kid has a big enough ego that he believes that he has trade value and that other teams want him. People have convinced themselves of crazier things.