Post-Game Talk: Jarry, GMR, and CODY CECI bring their "A" game!
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He didn't break it up. He let Malkin play with Sid's wingers when Sid wasn't available because he was desperate for a win.
Said that last night.
Been saying all year Jake with Geno was the quickest route for Sullivan to the unemployment line.
The way he's been doing it gets him there too but takes longer.
I think he was referirng to earlier this season when Sully put Rust on Geno's wing a few games back to give Geno a boost
Bylsma only did it because Sid was out and there was no way to justify breaking it up when Sid returned.
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I’d wager GMR, BART and a non-pouting Crosby is enough to make the playoffs.
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I feel like some combination of Rodrigues, Bleuger, McCann, or Tanev is good enough to get Crosby going too.
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If I’m management/coaching, I say Malkin is better off with the best line mates and easiest deployment. Sid can get talked up as the guy who takes on the toughest matchups and allows the top line to do what they do.
If Sid really cares about the team success, he’d give it a go.
If Sid really cares about the team success, he’d give it a go.
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Having BART means Crosby doesn’t get Tanev, but some leftover spaz like McCann, who never meshes with either top pivot.
So I doubt Crosby would pout, but that doesn’t mean he won’t struggle either.
Again, Sullivan did break up the Crosby line to help Malkin and gave him Rust.
However, it waters down the lines, even though it’s meant to help your other star pivot.
We haven’t seen Crosby play with KK and Tanev together on a line though, and I’d at least like to see them together for a spell with GMR.
Those guys play with a shit ton of speed and grit, and I’d think that suits Crosby’s game more than Malkin.
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Using Kapanen on the PK was one of the major selling points in acquiring him in the first place.
It's just weird why Sullivan is using him the way he is. Like I said before, Sullivan seems to be the type that he makes a judgment about you the first time he meets you, and you can never change his opinion of you after that. If for whatever reason he dislikes you right off the bat, you're basically screwed until the GM trades you.
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It's also not Sid's problem they don't have what fits Geno's style of play. Playing rob "Peter to pay Paul" isn't the answer, either.
You end up with the same result. Though, Sid is better suited to have less down skill per line-mates than Geno.
This older crap doesn't seem to affect them more than having reason to keep perusing the same goal as always. These are mind games/blocks. How's now any different than times before? They make changes and state "That's it boys, make it work."
I guess they need extra motivation.. Like, have a cardboard cutout of Anne Hathaway nude (Look...I remember the (e) ha...) and Sully will take away a cover piece each time Geno decides to play well and the Pens win.
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The fact you keep mentioning Rodrigues as an option for Crosby just proves you actually hate Crosby. He's literally the one forward on this roster that would cause me to stop tuning in to Penguins games if Sullivan decided that was the answer to Crosby's line.
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These options are pretty yikes. If Malkin gets Guentzel and Rust then you probably need to get another player for Crosby because if Zucker and Kappy don’t work you’re out of meaningful options.
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I like how people blamed Rodrigues for individually sinking the Crosby line earlier in the year, but now are fine with throwing Rodrigues on the top line while also taking Guentzel away from Crosby.
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People seem to be using Malkin and Zucker’s xGF% to defend their usage. Crosby and Rodrigues have pretty dominant numbers together.
Long term, I don’t think it is a solution. But as I said, try any of Kapanen, McCann, Bleuger, ERod or Tanev with Sid and see how it works and if GMR are still as dominant as they’ve been.
Hextall could alleviate this issue.
And you're right . . . given the team's current makeup, the leftovers are better suited to work with Crosby than with Malkin. Hasn't always been that way through the years, but it is now.
It's also not Sid's problem they don't have what fits Geno's style of play. Playing rob "Peter to pay Paul" isn't the answer, either.
You end up with the same result. Though, Sid is better suited to have less down skill per line-mates than Geno.
This older crap doesn't seem to affect them more than having reason to keep perusing the same goal as always. These are mind games/blocks. How's now any different than times before? They make changes and state "That's it boys, make it work."
I guess they need extra motivation.. Like, have a cardboard cutout of Anne Hathaway nude (Look...I remember the (e) ha...) and Sully will take away a cover piece each time Geno decides to play well and the Pens win.
I don't know that it's even a question of whether Sid is better suited to have watered down linemates as much as it's clear that (a) there's no clear difference between the impact of GCR and GMR and (b) it's impossible to imagine Sid being worse with the watered down options this team presently offers than Malkin has been, so it MAY be worth testing that to see if the team collectively plays like they did last night.
Of course, this presupposes that GMR builds on last night before Sid returns and, if they do, that Sully would try to sell it/Sid would be willing to buy it.
In other words, the chances of it happening are between infinitesimally small and none and infinitely closer to none at that.
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Yeah, and I was pretty sure we tried the whole PK specialist thing with Adams and it got firmly put to bed.
I'd buy not having KK or McCann PK if they were getting top 6 ice time, but they're not, and they have skill sets that thrive on the PK. McCann is even very defensively responsible! Why on earth wouldn't you ice a PK that's both defensively responsible and can chip in a few shorthanded goals?
you do whatever it takes to win. sid and geno know their time is limited. both want to win more than any thing else. [you don't get to where they are with out it] they have enough personal hard ware they need except for one more cup and would love to help the other one get it.
Yeah, and I was pretty sure we tried the whole PK specialist thing with Adams and it got firmly put to bed.
I'd buy not having KK or McCann PK if they were getting top 6 ice time, but they're not, and they have skill sets that thrive on the PK. McCann is even very defensively responsible!
And even if they were, Rust gets top 6 minutes and plays on the PK.
HandshakeLine
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That quote from Sully in the off-season about wanting Rodrigues because he was going to be a goal scorer seems to hint that HCMS doesn't think throwing Rodrigues on the top line would be so awful, Emp. 
I personally think Sully's lost it, but that's about as close as we can get to the organization's thinking on the potential of one Mr. E. Rod., Esq.
I personally think Sully's lost it, but that's about as close as we can get to the organization's thinking on the potential of one Mr. E. Rod., Esq.That sounds great in theory, but I'm not sure that's how it works in practice.
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