I bumped this back b'c there appears to be fresh update on the going rate for Chych, which supposedly is Villardi, Turcotte + 1st from LA. Whether or not NYR should consider to top that offer depends imo less on degree of overpay that will be both unavoidable and justified, as much as to whether or not 'yotes will accept currency that works for NY.
Villardi is 11OA but inexplicably, despite having chances at varsity level, has not stuck and is in the A. He IS a quality project at the right price, but he is not a given to stick at the N. Turcotte is undersized, will never be a C, and so far does not look like he makes NHL. 1st is 1st. LA coming along nicely, their 1st prob only a few behind NY's.
Obv, the OP's deal was on its face not even remotely close to the actual market price which is way way way less. NY should not remotely go there, although that said, it needs to be recognized there must be at least sufficient profit for AZ to go there w/a Chyc deal.
So before we fill in the blanks w/details, let's examine what COULD make a deal work for NY:
- we basically need to do youth for youth;
[we can't add older guys which = cannibalizing youth which hastens close of our window just now opening; dealing vets to keep lineup rejuvenated is the ideal, but youth for youth can also work].
This checks out b'c Chyc is mid 20s on good short term deal.
- we need to be able to fit him into the cap next yr aware that until we can move Trouba (2 yrs hence unless he allows earlier), there is ZERO cap space next yr. We need to move specific cap [Lindgren, who also is needed to make spot for Chyc at 1LD]. BUT THEN WE IDEALLY NEED TO PAY AZ TO EAT HALF RETAIN ON CHYC FOR HIS CURRENT DEAL. Chyc is 4.6, max retained = 2.3, which is even better than Lindy's 3 per.
Again, this is ideally, but 2.3 retention x 3 years after this is a doable enuf #, that NY should be able to satisfy any reasonable fee AZ wants to do it.
- Ideally, we are dealing from excess [LD] and not from area of diminished supply [F]. A guy like Chytil should be out b'c when Strome goes --- and he will whether it is in this deal or not b'c there is zero possibility he can be retained w'o putting forced trades of LaF +Kakko in play --- as Chytil is needed b'c we are thin at pivot.
This may also check out b'c AZ needs a lot of help in multiple areas and as long as there is sufficient amount and quality in a return, that will be more dominant consideration than any specific targeted piece(s).
Accordingly, I propose the following:
Lindgren
Jones
NYR 2022 and 2023 1sts both unprotected
Strome 4.5 expiring ufa max retained = 2.25
Georgiev 2.425 expiring rfa max retained = 1.2125
Reunanen elc LD
for
Chychrun at half
Analysis:
for Coyotes:
keepers:
- Lindgren is quality 1LD immediate add
- Jones, while not elite, is a better prospect who has demonstrated sufficient skating etc skills will def be quality NHL player, lefty shot plays either D
- Reunanen a notch below that, no room on NY roster, competes for position
- and of course 2 1sts
follow up deals
- Strome at half is a bargain, at half of that is insane. AZ has one retention slot if I am reading CF correct and this is an expiring salary so the option is recovered for next season. No way Strome retained/x 2 does not return a quality future. I could see AZ 2022 3rd + 4th + Strome get a late 1st from a contender.
- Geo at half is cheap enuf to have a small bidding war of multiple suitors
Notice this is a trim offer, no fat, no side deals like give us expiring Kessel for Nemeth.
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NY needs to go with these pieces. Although Jones + Nils L are similar and both play either side, we need Nils' righty shot and he fits at 3RD when Schneider replaces Trouba at 2RD. It would be preferable to have Nils at the ready on the off chance Trouba agrees to move early. We also need Robertson to fit 3LD so he is not available.
There will be squawking about dealing Geo. It is hoped that if VAN drops out of p'o race Halak will be available at affordable price. Halak not available before. This above deal needs to be done immediately so 'yotes have max time to get best returns on Strome + Geo. But the bottom line here is we have established Geo plays much better w/regular work as a starter. The fact that there is only one set of starter minutes, and they indisputably belong to Shesty, makes keeping Geo problematic. Worst case scenario, we upgrade to Chyc and go with Kinkaid/Huska as backup, rest Shesty final reg season wk entering playoffs, then play backup minimally. Huska played well in the A, got shelled in his only 1 game here, but that was vs Avs, who also beat Shesty.
Finally, for the love of all that is holy, we must recognize that Strome can't remain and even cap aside we should just move on. Don't give a rat's rump if breadman prefers he stays; we need to push forward. Kravtsov is forward; Strome is staying in place in the short term, but is very shortly after falling backward. We are better off giving Strome mins to Chytil and Barron, Krav when he gets here and until then I would immediately give Pajuniemi mins to see if there is lightning in a bottle, while he gets experience.
In playoffs Rangers will need to roll w/Goodrow enforcing top line so Panarin not beat up.
Here is what line up should be post deal going into playoffs:
Goodrow - Zib - Panarin
Kreider - Chytil - Krav
LaF - Barron - Kakko
Hunt - Rooney - Reaves
Chychrun - Fox
KAM - Trouba
Nils L - Schneider
Shesty
