Proposal: Jacob Chychrun to New York Rangers

[bernmeister]

NYR already among the best defensive teams, strength is RHD. Chycrun makes a lot of sense, not sure if this an urgent need. I think the focus would be on 2C to increase their scoring if they mortgage players.

Not an urgent need, but IF a fit that deals Lindgren + Jones + 2 1sts ++, in specific currency, and allows NY to get Chyc at half, that would work, as youth for youth.
Possible if other guys take off, in a yr + can think of Chyc as main piece for a pivot if still nec.

Prob w/pivot now is nobody is available except understandably very high price, and not a fit to NY cap next yr, and paying to waste assets on a win now gamble rather than keep youth and our window, now just opening, extended, is short sighted and likely unsuccessful.
Better off long term moving Strome, give his mins to Chytil, Barron, + Krav. Shesty and maybe Fox are only 2 guys NY can't lose either 1 this p'o. Strome is useful, good offense with warts, but not indispensable.

 

[FoxysExpensiveNYDigs]

Not an urgent need, but IF a fit that deals Lindgren + Jones + 2 1sts ++, in specific currency, and allows NY to get Chyc at half, that would work, as youth for youth.
Possible if other guys take off, in a yr + can think of Chyc as main piece for a pivot if still nec.

Prob w/pivot now is nobody is available except understandably very high price, and not a fit to NY cap next yr, and paying to waste assets on a win now gamble rather than keep youth and our window, now just opening, extended, is short sighted and likely unsuccessful.
Better off long term moving Strome, give his mins to Chytil, Barron, + Krav. Shesty and maybe Fox are only 2 guys NY can't lose either 1 this p'o. Strome is useful, good offense with warts, but not indispensable.

Offer would easily be beat by a team that actually needs Chychrun.

 

[Patagonia]

Not an urgent need, but IF a fit that deals Lindgren + Jones + 2 1sts ++, in specific currency, and allows NY to get Chyc at half, that would work, as youth for youth.
Possible if other guys take off, in a yr + can think of Chyc as main piece for a pivot if still nec.

Prob w/pivot now is nobody is available except understandably very high price, and not a fit to NY cap next yr, and paying to waste assets on a win now gamble rather than keep youth and our window, now just opening, extended, is short sighted and likely unsuccessful.
Better off long term moving Strome, give his mins to Chytil, Barron, + Krav. Shesty and maybe Fox are only 2 guys NY can't lose either 1 this p'o. Strome is useful, good offense with warts, but not indispensable.

JT Miller is likely the target anyways. Your proposal for Chychrun should easily be beaten, but this would be enough for Miller.

 

[Heckler81]

These offers are ridiculous. Honestly, I wouldn’t even trade Lindgren for Chychrun straight up.

Lindgren has been PERFECT to what the Rangers need. He’s the PERFECT #1 to Fox. We already know what we are getting in Lindgren.


This trade is just to make a trade and makes the Rangers worse.

The Rangers need to focus on #2 C if Strome is not the long term goal. Use prospect assets to upgrade that spot.

 

[Habs Halifax]

These offers are ridiculous. Honestly, I wouldn’t even trade Lindgren for Chychrun straight up.

Lindgren has been PERFECT to what the Rangers need. He’s the PERFECT #1 to Fox. We already know what we are getting in Lindgren.


This trade is just to make a trade and makes the Rangers worse.

The Rangers need to focus on #2 C if Strome is not the long term goal. Use prospect assets to upgrade that spot.

Pretty sure the Leafs considered Holl a perfect fit for Muzzin last year. These things typically change with time. Not saying you are entirely wrong but I'm pretty sure you trade Lindgren for Chychrun straight up.

I get your point but saying you would not trade them straight up is not good context to support your angle of going after a center instead.

 

[CupSeeker]

Pretty sure the Leafs considered Holl a perfect fit for Muzzin last year. These things typically change with time. Not saying you are entirely wrong but I'm pretty sure you trade Lindgren for Chychrun straight up.

I get your point but saying you would not trade them straight up is not good context to support your angle of going after a center instead.

Not sure how the Muzzin/Holl comparison fits here. Lindgren/Fox is still a very strong pair. Lindgren would be traded for Chyc however, if such an opportunity existed.

 

[Habs Halifax]

Not sure how the Muzzin/Holl comparison fits here. Lindgren/Fox is still a very strong pair. Lindgren would be traded for Chyc however, if such an opportunity existed.

It was about how the Leafs have changed their opinion on a player who was showing promise but now he is not. But yeah, Rangers make that 1/1 trade if that reality every existed.

 

[Nickmo82]

As an outsider I find it pretty funny
NYR: We want your guy but are best prospects are off the table.
AZ: We want a blue chipper.
NYR: Take these other guys. Wait, no he is not worth 5 1sts.
AZ: That's fine we don't need 5 1sts just 1 blue chipper and a 1st.

Like an awful lot of these posts/proposals, fans of one of the teams have rarely if ever suggested it or clamoured for the player in question.

Rangers fans are saying the deal is bad for the Rangers because it is. It's not lowballing. It's a lukewarm response to a trade proposal that they have next to no interest in. It doesn't meet an organisational need, even if Chychrun would be a clear improvement on D. NYR have other much more important needs to address that would be a far better usage of any assets they have to trade.

 

[Adam da bomb]

Like an awful lot of these posts/proposals, fans of one of the teams have rarely if ever suggested it or clamoured for the player in question.

Rangers fans are saying the deal is bad for the Rangers because it is. It's not lowballing. It's a lukewarm response to a trade proposal that they have next to no interest in. It doesn't meet an organisational need, even if Chychrun would be a clear improvement on D. NYR have other much more important needs to address that would be a far better usage of any assets they have to trade.

I agree New York doesn't need Chych. Like many of these proposals. So you'd think it would go.
AZ: Hey, did you want Chych for x + x?
Other Team: No, not really.
AZ: Great. End of conversation.

 

[Zats Muccarello]

As much as it would be a positive addition to the team, the NYR needs are much more significant at forward.

 

[KingDeathMetal]

On what planet is a top pairing LD worth four first round picks or first-round quality talents who've kept or expanded their value, PLUS a devalued but still promising former 1st rounder?

That's the sort of return a prime, healthy Jack Eichel would have gotten. Come on lol.

 

[FoxysExpensiveNYDigs]

On what planet is a top pairing LD worth four first round picks or first-round quality talents who've kept or expanded their value, PLUS a devalued but still promising former 1st rounder?

That's the sort of return a prime, healthy Jack Eichel would have gotten. Come on lol.

Fantasy world

 

[bernmeister]

Offer would easily be beat by a team that actually needs Chychrun.

not so easy
that's 4 firsts value + Geo + Strome at half + Reunanen
Conceivable another offer has pieces more preferred by 'yotes.
But mine is a signif offer. Not so easily beaten.

JT Miller is likely the target anyways. Your proposal for Chychrun should easily be beaten, but this would be enough for Miller.

Thanks but no interest in JTM given cap reality, plus prefer to stay young. My offer for Chyc is youth for youth using LD surplus and is a fit. Dealing other pieces is problematic.

Like an awful lot of these posts/proposals, fans of one of the teams have rarely if ever suggested it or clamoured for the player in question.

Rangers fans are saying the deal is bad for the Rangers because it is. It's not lowballing. It's a lukewarm response to a trade proposal that they have next to no interest in. It doesn't meet an organisational need, even if Chychrun would be a clear improvement on D. NYR have other much more important needs to address that would be a far better usage of any assets they have to trade.

While this is true, 2 late 1sts + Lindy + Jones + is a way of upgrading at a position while reducing the logjam of excess LD we have by a little bit.
No good C prospects available at affordable prices, and adding Chyc who is already affordable but then ridiculously max retained to half, at least is theoretical future piece NY can use on cornerstone of a C deal if one presents itself later,