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Player Discussion Jack Quinn, RW (8th overall, 2020): Named AHL Rookie of the Year

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Fjordy said:
It looked like it was an injury or his legs were just really weak right now. He was falling, tripping. Maybe he needs to do more leg work in the gym, Idk.
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Quinn was kind of always like that? Falling and shooting. It is kind of his thing his hesitation in his shot and shooting and falling.
 
How did Adams get this rep as being great at drafting when if you look at his drafts other than Power (free space), JJ and Benson none of these players has amounted to anything so far and several (like Quinn) look like colossal busts?
 
Fjordy said:
Maybe he meant another NHL team, maybe Ottawa, he was born near Ottawa and played in the OHL for Ottawa.
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Funny, I am a Sens fan perusing this thread because I can see Staios looking to Quinn as someone worth adding. I have no clue what the deal would look like, or if Adams is even really open to moving Quinn.
 
sabremike said:
How did Adams get this rep as being great at drafting when if you look at his drafts other than Power (free space), JJ and Benson none of these players has amounted to anything so far and several (like Quinn) look like colossal busts?
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Quinn looks like young player having a slump, not a colossal bust. Going on games played, this is mid point of what amounts to his 2nd NHL season. Young players don't develop linearly.

Or we can take the hyperbole and run with it. Sprint, even.
 
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Chainshot said:
Quinn looks like young player having a slump, not a colossal bust. Going on games played, this is mid point of what amounts to his 2nd NHL season. Young players don't develop linearly.

Or we can take the hyperbole and run with it. Sprint, even.
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The problem is he is not an NHL quality player right now and needs to be in Rochester figuring it out. Unfortunately waiver rules make that impossible so he gets to "develop" by getting crushed in the NHL on a nightly basis.
 
sabremike said:
How did Adams get this rep as being great at drafting when if you look at his drafts other than Power (free space), JJ and Benson none of these players has amounted to anything so far and several (like Quinn) look like colossal busts?
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No matter how frustrated you are with...13 years! You can't fast forward time, theres nothing you can do about it. Physical maturity, development & experience takes years unfortunately, outside of the rare exceptions.
 
sabremike said:
The problem is he is not an NHL quality player right now and needs to be in Rochester figuring it out. Unfortunately waiver rules make that impossible so he gets to "develop" by getting crushed in the NHL on a nightly basis.
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I'm not sure the AHL would straighten him out, but he could use time in the pressbox. He's been given far too much time and a couple of modest games in slush minutes out west isn't enough to make me think he should still be dressed. The issue is that the people who could replace him in the lineup are already playing with the injuries they have.
 
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The Devilish Buffoon said:
Funny, I am a Sens fan perusing this thread because I can see Staios looking to Quinn as someone worth adding. I have no clue what the deal would look like, or if Adams is even really open to moving Quinn.
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Hard to say, but Quinn's value isn't that great right now considering he's struggling. We need a top 4 RD, and I doubt we'll find one in Ottawa, since it seems like that's a problem position for you guys too, and it's a shame our idiot GM couldn't add a guy like Jensen in the offseason. As for forwards, I really liked Pinto back in the day, but it seems like his stats aren't looking good lately either. I've seen Greig mentioned on the main boards, but I don't know much about him. Quinn won't bring back any big guys like Batherson, even with a plus. So that's basically it. We really need a top 4 defensive RD and a top 6 C, a top 6 W wouldn't hurt either, that's why I mentioned Batherson.
 
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In some fairness to the organization, the drop-off in Quinn’s play has been well outside of any normal season to season variance. I never bought the Quinn is “the straw that will stir the drink” narrative that was circulating in the summer and early fall, but at worst I thought he was a 15-20 goal, 40-45 point, middle-six player who would not hurt you defensively. I don’t recall a player dropping off so profoundly at such a young age, not only in relation to expectation but just in relation to past performance.
 
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Fjordy said:
Hard to say, but Quinn's value isn't that great right now considering he's struggling. We need a top 4 RD, and I doubt we'll find one in Ottawa, since it seems like that's a problem position for you guys too, and it's a shame our idiot GM couldn't add a guy like Jensen in the offseason. As for forwards, I really liked Pinto back in the day, but it seems like his stats aren't looking good lately either. I've seen Greig mentioned on the main boards, but I don't know much about him. Quinn won't bring back any big guys like Batherson, even with a plus. So that's basically it. We really need a top 4 defensive RD and a top 6 C, a top 6 W wouldn't hurt either, that's why I mentioned Batherson.
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I'd do Greig + Quinn ngl.
 
Bjornar Moxnes said:
I'd do Greig + Quinn ngl.
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And I'm not sure, because I don't know much about Greig, and I'm a little suspicious that you're so willing to do this. :)

Archie Lee said:
In some fairness to the organization, the drop-off in Quinn’s play has been well outside of any normal season to season variance. I never bought the Quinn is “the straw that will stir the drink” narrative that was circulating in the summer and early fall, but at worst I thought he was a 15-20 goal, 40-45 point, middle-six player who would not hurt you defensively. I don’t recall a player dropping off so profoundly at such a young age, not only in relation to expectation but just in relation to past performance.
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Dach It seems he also fell in a similar way, and injuries were also possibly one of the reasons. I think quite a few young players selected in the top 15 fall like this.
 
Fjordy said:
And I'm not sure, because I don't know much about Greig, and I'm a little suspicious that you're so willing to do this. :)


Dach It seems he also fell in a similar way, and injuries were also possibly one of the reasons. I think quite a few young players selected in the top 15 fall like this.
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I feel Greig + a small piece for Quinn would help both teams. Sens have a lot of C depth but not much skilled winger depth. Greig has succeeded the most as a C especially when paired with skilled wingers. Quinn's skillset would be perfect for Timmy on the Sens as well.
 
Bjornar Moxnes said:
I feel Greig + a small piece for Quinn would help both teams. Sens have a lot of C depth but not much skilled winger depth. Greig has succeeded the most as a C especially when paired with skilled wingers. Quinn's skillset would be perfect for Timmy on the Sens as well.
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I would be interested in something like that, though I think Quinn righting his play will result in him being the much more offensively productive guy.

Grieg is one of those hard-to-play-against pricks who drive other teams crazy and are beloved by their own.
 
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Bjornar Moxnes said:
I feel Greig + a small piece for Quinn would help both teams. Sens have a lot of C depth but not much skilled winger depth. Greig has succeeded the most as a C especially when paired with skilled wingers. Quinn's skillset would be perfect for Timmy on the Sens as well.
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Quinn + Jokiharju for Greig + Tooth
 
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Zegras suffered a lower body injury last night and could not put any weight on one of his legs after, so scratch that idea for a long while.
 
Fjordy said:
If we could get Zub in this deal, I think it would suit me, so I suggested this option.
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you have another scared of his shadow gm who is in the deep shit now, with a meddling owner over his shoulder. So I dont expect them to be able to finish a deal until the next guy comes in.

we can probably predict the press conference today line by line
 
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ValJamesDuex said:
you have another scared of his shadow gm who is in the deep shit now, with a meddling owner over his shoulder. So I dont expect them to be able to finish a deal until the next guy comes in.

we can probably predict the press conference today line by line
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Well, it's not real, it's just like a hockey manager and we just trade different ideas. So don't take it as the truth or too close.
 
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