Value of: Jack Campbell's next deal in TOR

What will Campbell get?


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Boondock

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Given that goalies like Petersen, Merzlikins, Saros, Shesterkin and Ullmark all signed for $5 or more just this past off season, I don't see Campbell signing for any less than that. I would vote for $5-$6 AAV.
 
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Boondock

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I think 4 years at 4.75M approximately. Team loves him, city loves him, he loves the team and the city.

Rielly took a bit less, I could see Campbell doing the same.
I read very similar posts about Hyman. His family has money, he doesn't need to cash in and he loves Toronto - yada, yada, yada - now Hyman has cashed in with the Oilers. If the Leafs don't want to pay him market value I could see Campbell having the same fate.
 

jfhabs

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He should be looking for his payday as this would be is first big contract. He might not stay in Toronto unless they can unload other contracts, which they should since he's been excellent for them.
 

GirardSpinorama

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I read very similar posts about Hyman. His family has money, he doesn't need to cash in and he loves Toronto - yada, yada, yada - now Hyman has cashed in with the Oilers. If the Leafs don't want to pay him market value I could see Campbell having the same fate.

Reilly also took a pretty fair contract. Not a discount . We have no idea if anyone would have offered him more. Other than Spezza, I haven't seen Dubas ever signing a discounted deal.
 

AvroArrow

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Reilly also took a pretty fair contract. Not a discount . We have no idea if anyone would have offered him more. Other than Spezza, I haven't seen Dubas ever signing a discounted deal.

FWIW Tavares was being offered more by other teams in free agency. So he did technically take a discount to sign here. Not debating whether or not he's worth the cap hit, but he did turn down bigger offers to give us a hometown discount and play here.

Nylander contract was another fair value deal, not a discount though (at the time) right now it's looking like a steal.
 

Suntouchable13

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I'd look to see what happens in the playoffs first, unless Dubas can sign him for something cheap and easily moveable. There is no reason to commit big money and a lot of years to him until you see how the playoffs go. He looks great, but I couldn't care less about regular season numbers.
 

LucicAndChong

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I wonder if the Leafs flex their ability to spend money and offer him something ridiculous like $4 mil X 8 Years

front load the f*** out of the contract, give him something like Tavares where we pay like 90% of his contract in the first years signing bonus.

that way we can hold onto him for 5 or 6 years and then buy him out or trade him if he’s still able to play.

it’ll be cheap to buyout because by year 5 he will just be making league min with no bonuses.
 
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I'd look to see what happens in the playoffs first, unless Dubas can sign him for something cheap and easily moveable. There is no reason to commit big money and a lot of years to him until you see how the playoffs go. He looks great, but I couldn't care less about regular season numbers.

His price will only go up by then. Not to mention He’d be likely to entertain offers from other teams at that point. This is partly where we went wrong with the big 3, should have signed them soon as we could have, we’d have much better contracts.
 

seanlinden

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My original guess was $5.5 x 6 in Toronto, or $6 x 6 elsewhere. Puts him on par with Markstrom (who was the same age when his deal kicked in).

Does $5.5m work for Toronto? I'm not sure... but I don't see how Dubas keeps his job if he loses Campbell at $6m.

I'd revise my guess -- I think out of desparation, the Leafs will give him a 7th, or maybe an 8th year, and get the AAV down closer to $5m.
 

Mr Positive

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Anybody who locks into that will regret it quickly
For such a central and important position such as goalie, 6 million is definitely not that high. Top goalies get top AAV just like other positions. The Flames signed Markstrom for 6 million AAV.

Of course, with Markstrom there was no shortage of fans smearing the deal when he wasnt putting up great numbers, but GMs prefer to gamble on talent, rather than gamble on not having it. I could see Campbell having a similar kind of progression as Markstrom
 
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Recipe Unlimited

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5 years x $5.5mil

Mrazek, Ritchie and Kerfoot will likely be cap casualties. Dubas might need to move out some more picks to offload those players depending how their seasons finish.
 

KingTech

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Not sure why everyone is assuming it will be under $5 mill. He’s playing way above that level - last season & this season
The reason I think under $5 is he will take a team discount to help with the cap Hes to nice of a guy to sit out for more.
 

Twine Tickler

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He is a Vezina quality before his deal is signed, and then the second the Leafs have an extension in place at say 5 x 4.5AAV he will be the most overpaid 1A in the league...

I love this place
 

bossram

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I wonder if the Leafs flex their ability to spend money and offer him something ridiculous like $4 mil X 8 Years

front load the f*** out of the contract, give him something like Tavares where we pay like 90% of his contract in the first years signing bonus.

that way we can hold onto him for 5 or 6 years and then buy him out or trade him if he’s still able to play.

it’ll be cheap to buyout because by year 5 he will just be making league min with no bonuses.

That's probably the only way for the Leafs to keep him around on an affordable deal. Campbell seems like a guy who likes being on the Leafs and is loyal to Dubas for giving him a chance, so I could see him agreeing to this sort of structure. This is really going to be Soup's one big payday, so maybe getting a "lifetime deal" is a bit more amenable to him too.
 

Drij

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Knowing the leafs, they will give him 8 year $64 million contract Worth $8 million per season he will then suck and the leafs will be forced to trade him and eat salary. lol
 
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James Blackley

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It will be in the 5-6MM range assuming he continues his stellar play until the end of the season.

For a guy that's barely played 100 games in the NHL, no way does get 6 million. He's probably worth about 3.5-4.5M, depending on how the season goes, some suckers of a GM will prob offer him the higher range of it, no doubts. I see him re-upping in Toronto for 4 years/3.5 per.
 

JohnHodgson

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For a guy that's barely played 100 games in the NHL, no way does get 6 million. He's probably worth about 3.5-4.5M, depending on how the season goes, some suckers of a GM will prob offer him the higher range of it, no doubts. I see him re-upping in Toronto for 4 years/3.5 per.


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3.5? That's backup money bro.

You're in fantasy land.
 

James Blackley

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3.5? That's backup money bro.

You're in fantasy land.

You do realize that Dubas and Keefe never had any intentions of him being the starter right? Dubas wouldn't have brought in Mrazek if that were the case lol! Dubas's plan was to have a platoon style combo in net this season and going forward, injuries have derailed it slightly.I have no doubts when Mrazek is healthy, that he and Soup split the load going forward.

3.5M is a very reasonable offer for him.
 

SheldonJPlankton

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Soon to be 30, played for multiple NHL teams, currently hot, looking at a chance to cash in the big money contract and play for an actual 'Cup contender? I say Campbell hits that free-agency hard for his shot at the mega-millions and pathway towards a Playoff championship.
 

JKG33

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You do realize that Dubas and Keefe never had any intentions of him being the starter right? Dubas wouldn't have brought in Mrazek if that were the case lol! Dubas's plan was to have a platoon style combo in net this season and going forward, injuries have derailed it slightly.I have no doubts when Mrazek is healthy, that he and Soup split the load going forward.

3.5M is a very reasonable offer for him.

So their shitty plan didn't workout, his great play saved their ass, and now he should go back to being in a tandem?

This fanbase, smh
 
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kevsh

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Dubas's plan was to have a platoon style combo in net this season and going forward, injuries have derailed it slightly.

Okay, mini-rant here not meant to derail the thread, but please, people stop saying "going forward" (or its just as bad cousin "moving forward"), it literally adds nothing to the point you are trying to make.

The second time you use it (quoted above) is completely redundant to your point. Try instead: "I have no doubts when Mrazek is healthy that he and Soup (will) split the load."

The first instance you make it worse by using it wrong. "Dubas's plan was to have a platoon style combo in net this season and going forward, injuries have derailed it slightly." Try instead, "Dubas's plan was to have a platoon style combo in net this season (but) injuries have derailed it slightly."

Yeah, I know, but it's been a pet peeve of mine since someone in the business world a few decades ago came up with the idea that adding "forward" to a sentence implied action and/or positivity. (Newscasters and sports broadcasters somehow picked up on this are the worst culprits. I think Dreger, for instance, can't go two sentences without saying it. Don't be Dreger.)
 

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