What’s a vezina contender worth? He wins the Vezina right now.
I’d say in the 7-9 mill range at least
I’d say in the 7-9 mill range at least
Value of: Jack Campbell's next deal in TOR
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TheImpatientPanther
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The fact you are comparing 3rd liners salaries to goaltenders, tells me you don't know your head from your asshole bud. Again, the plan was never to have soup be the #1.... if that were the case, why would Dubas go out and she'll out $3.8 on Mrazek, when he could have signed any run of the mill back ups for 1/3 of that price? Grow some brain cells.
Well if he keeps up his play. Then an easy 5+ but I just hope he really enjoys Toronto. Would hate to lose him due to cap
Sundinisagod
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He’s not a guy who came out of nowhere. He was an 11th overall draft pick, very highly regarded goalie prospect. Iirc Dubas made a blockbuster trade in the OHL to acquire him, and then he traded for him in the NHL. Leafs should sign him now instead of waiting for him to win the Vezina. That would probably get him to 7m on the open market.
TheImpatientPanther
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He played 34 games for Soo and don't even think they made the playoffs that year.
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He's getting 5x5. Ullmark got that contract putting up a .915 in back to back.. [albeit on a bad team]
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He's always had skill, but he's also been a late bloomer in terms of bringing it all together. Leafs certainly made a shrewd trade for him when they did
But fact remains this is his first NHL season as a starter. Which is going to constrain (to a degree) his next contract.
I can potentially see him getting closer to 5 assuming he stays consistent for the rest of the year and playoffs. Him getting something like 7 would be near unprecedented given his limited playing history so not sure I'd ever see that happening.
LucicAndChong
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I said this before but I’ll say it again now that this thread is gaining traction again.
4 million x 8 years
front load the contract (like Tavares) so that by the time years 6/7/8 come he will only be on the books for league min. That’s easily tradeable if he is still a quality goaltender and if not it’s an easy and cheap contract to buy out.
Campbell gets the equivalent of $6.25/5Years and gets to stay long term with the team he apparently loves.
Also with Wolls recent play there is a chance that next year we no longer have a need for Mrazek. If so that’s an easily tradeable contract that will allow us to pay Campbell more.
either way I think the leafs should flex their ability to spend large sums of cash (signing bonuses and the ability to buyout contracts) and the fact that they can offer 8 years.
4 million x 8 years
front load the contract (like Tavares) so that by the time years 6/7/8 come he will only be on the books for league min. That’s easily tradeable if he is still a quality goaltender and if not it’s an easy and cheap contract to buy out.
Campbell gets the equivalent of $6.25/5Years and gets to stay long term with the team he apparently loves.
Also with Wolls recent play there is a chance that next year we no longer have a need for Mrazek. If so that’s an easily tradeable contract that will allow us to pay Campbell more.
either way I think the leafs should flex their ability to spend large sums of cash (signing bonuses and the ability to buyout contracts) and the fact that they can offer 8 years.
Its not too early to talk Vezina. We need to pump up Campbell as much as possible. We are 1/4 through the season already and Campbell leads in most categories. All the goalies in the mix are behind Campbell. We can give Campbell 5.5 to 6 million just be getting rid of some garbage. Mikheyev, addition by subtraction. Same as Kerfoot. We have replacements already in the system.
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If we gave him the 4m x 8yrs, and bought him out the last 3 years, what are the cap implications?
edit: is it still 2/3 of the cap hit spread over twice as many years? Ie 1.333 x 6 years if had 3 years remaining at 4m?
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Woll playing well is gonna make his value sink a little. It's quite obvious the progress the Leafs have made as a team defensively is a huge reason why they're having success. Campbell has been lights out as well, bailing us out countless times but the way even Woll has looked definitely suggests the system is working and clearly working to Campbells favor. I wish we would've re-signed him after last season, probably could've got him for like 4M. Likely gets in the 5M range if he keeps this up.
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???? last years vezina finalist with a way longer track record got a 5.9 AAV
2 years before that a vezina finalist got 5 AAV
Campbells family is from port Huron which is 4 hr drive from Toronto.
His girlfriend is from Toronto.
He says he loves it here and wants to sign here
He played in the OHL voluntarily
heck he named his cat after the team
who knows where it will go but dubas rightly or wrongly always seems to tell people what is happening.
he said that he would sign rielly but it might take a little into the year. He got him 10 games in
he said he was saving money to sign Campbell and his next moves have to keep in mind space for him. Dubas doesn’t say things and they don’t happen. He is too open with the media.
Anything can happen. But the idea that it’s a mercenary would be surprising
His girlfriend is from Toronto.
He says he loves it here and wants to sign here
He played in the OHL voluntarily
heck he named his cat after the team
who knows where it will go but dubas rightly or wrongly always seems to tell people what is happening.
he said that he would sign rielly but it might take a little into the year. He got him 10 games in
he said he was saving money to sign Campbell and his next moves have to keep in mind space for him. Dubas doesn’t say things and they don’t happen. He is too open with the media.
Anything can happen. But the idea that it’s a mercenary would be surprising
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This where I think he lands as well…as long as we don’t wait too long to sign him.
123offtheglass
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This poll range is odd, I'd say it's 5mil+ right now and likely going to rise.
Players can always surprise with a discount but those are rarer than people would like to think. If he signed say 5 x 4.75m today that's him taking a decent paycut.
Players can always surprise with a discount but those are rarer than people would like to think. If he signed say 5 x 4.75m today that's him taking a decent paycut.
