Confirmed with Link: It's Started! (Management firings)

[Gurglesons]

With Friedman mentioning that FSG will get creative with titles, I could see them making someone like Ventura the Director of analytics

Ventura is a VP in Buffalo. Why would he drop to director?

 

[Malkinstheman]

Ventura is a VP in Buffalo. Why would he drop to director?

Yeah not Ventura necessarily, just someone of that ilk. Someone to head a dedicated analytics department

 

[66-30-33]

Yeah not Ventura necessarily, just someone of that ilk. Someone to head a dedicated analytics department

Karmanos?

 

[Malkinstheman]

Karmanos?

Looks like hes the associate GM in Buffalo so coming here wouldnt really be a promotion

 

[ColePens]

I've said before.. top GMs wont want to come here. We will get the secondary unit for sure.

 

[BrookswasHere44]

I've said before.. top GMs wont want to come here. We will get the secondary unit for sure.

Who's the "secondary unit" so you can't just say "see, I told you so"

 

[Pens x]

Oh no! How will the Maple Leafs ever be a first round exit now?

Hire Sully

 

[Pens x]

FSG doesn't care about the hockey team they spent 900 million dollars on is my favorite take of Penguins fans.

They just invested tons of money into our coaching staff and fired our GM and President within a year of owning team. If they didn't care they wouldn't be doing that.

They had to fire Hextall. Every fan outside of this city laughed when he was hired and he was worse than most people could have predicted.

Getting rid of Ron Hextall and Brian Burke hardly means they care.

 

[66-30-33]

Who's the "secondary unit" so you can't just say "see, I told you so"

Stan Bowman.

 

[Pens x]

Maybe Dubas will be sour grapes and entertain other offers then. But it just seems like it’s too late on the process anyway

Too late in the Zoom interview process to call Dubas?

 

[Turin]

I mean the Pens have done the second interviews for like all the most desirable up and coming execs basically. Tulsky, Darche and MacKinnon are guys with bright futures. If they didn’t want the job they wouldn’t interview.

Btw I’m not high on Dubas but I’m all in for the Punished Kyle arc.

 

[SomeDude]

Stan Bowman.

He should be like cleaning the toilets of the guys on the 6th tier of available GM’s aka the Craig Patrick’s and Chuck Fletchers of the world

 

[Ulf5]

I mean the Pens have done the second interviews for like all the most desirable up and coming execs basically. Tulsky, Darche and MacKinnon are guys with bright futures. If they didn’t want the job they wouldn’t interview.

Btw I’m not high on Dubas but I’m all in for the Punished Kyle arc.

Not so sure about MacKinnon. He was our Director or Pro Scouting from 2007-2009. How were our drafts those years?

 

[ColePens]

Who's the "secondary unit" so you can't just say "see, I told you so"

Wait til they hire someone then I'll tell you i knew it all along!!!

 

[Malkinstheman]

Not so sure about MacKinnon. He was our Director or Pro Scouting from 2007-2009. How were our drafts those years?

Director of amateur scouting is in charge of the draft

 

[Turin]

Not so sure about MacKinnon. He was our Director or Pro Scouting from 2007-2009. How were our drafts those years?

Pro scouting would be stuff like Kunitz, Dupuis, Hossa

 

[Ulf5]

Pro scouting would be stuff like Kunitz, Dupuis, Hossa

I would've never guess the Pens' orgizational staff went that deep in the early 2000s.
I would figure Mac would've been in charge of all pros, NA and Europe, and soon to be pros, ie draft prospects. And they'd maybe have someone different for the college scene. But obviously I dont get too involved in that part of the team. Had to look up MacKinnon's involvement from his first tour.

 

[Ulf5]

Ok, 2005-06 Pens just had Greg Malone as Director of Scouting. The next season they added Jay Heinbuck as Director of Amateur Scouting. Then the following season they added a Director of Professional Scouting.

 

[HandshakeLine]

IIRC that was one of Shero's early innovations-- along with mandating email communications. It's wild to think that we only had like one guy overseeing all the scouting, but those late 1990s/early 2000s Pens were horribly run. Mostly not CP's fault, retrospectively, but man, they just cut every corner they could.

 

[Pens x]

IIRC that was one of Shero's early innovations-- along with mandating email communications. It's wild to think that we only had like one guy overseeing all the scouting, but those late 1990s/early 2000s Pens were horribly run. Mostly not CP's fault, retrospectively, but man, they just cut every corner they could.

That’s what happens when your team no longer worked on a shoestring budget. Shero simply copied what other teams were doing once the team was on solid financial footing. He ain’t Billy Beane or some innovator.

 

[HandshakeLine]

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That’s what happens when your team no longer worked on a shoestring budget. Shero simply copied what other teams were doing once the team was on solid financial footing. He ain’t Billy Beane or some innovator.

Nah, I'm not trying to claim he revolutionized the position or anything. I'm just pointing out how backwards the hockey world is and how resistant it is to change, especially when by like 2005-2006 every business and college in the world was using email. I'd bet good money there are people in NHL offices now who still don't believe in video or modern scientific training, let alone GoogleDocs or cloud storage.

 

[Power Surge]

x

Nah, I'm not trying to claim he revolutionized the position or anything. I'm just pointing out how backwards the hockey world is and how resistant it is to change, especially when by like 2005-2006 every business and college in the world was using email. I'd bet good money there are people in NHL offices now who still don't believe in video or modern scientific training, let alone GoogleDocs or cloud storage.

Tip of Iceburgh Podcast should be first responders here and really get to the bottom of this.

 

[Harvey Birdman]

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Nah, I'm not trying to claim he revolutionized the position or anything. I'm just pointing out how backwards the hockey world is and how resistant it is to change, especially when by like 2005-2006 every business and college in the world was using email. I'd bet good money there are people in NHL offices now who still don't believe in video or modern scientific training, let alone GoogleDocs or cloud storage.

Sounds like where I work. Which the huge modernization was we have remote access to email.

 

[AjaxTelamon]

I've said before.. top GMs wont want to come here. We will get the secondary unit for sure.

May work in our favor, I have no interest in a Bergevin or someone from the old boys GM club. We need a new approach.

 

[DRAGO 18]

I remember an article when Shero was first hired here, he said they didnt even have internet access in the GMs office

The Last few years of CP's tenure here were an absolute joke