Can’t wait til the hire is made. Either going to be “too much old boys club” or “too much nerd”. There’s no perfect candidate. But this miserable board will be pissed regardless.
I think the vast majority of the board is good with the candidates...?
I'm not gonna sit here and pretend to know how it'll all play out with any name linked to the FO job(s), but I will say I have absolutely zero desire to see Bowman, Chiarelli, or Bergevin with this team in any capacity.
-edit- I'd say of any name, I want Tulsky. I don't like the Canes or how they play, but I think that latter part is more about coaching than anything. They're a strong team despite the lack of anything approaching a star player, imo. That's a well built team. Give me the guy who had a hand in that construction, especially considering he's likely to have some top-5 picks at his disposal here sooner than later. I don't really have any interest in Darche. As others have pointed out, Tampa's era was built by Yzerman and they haven't done anything spectacular construction-wise since his departure. No thanks on the guy who was part of the FO who traded an entire draft for a plug.
I just want a guy who has a clear plan and vision and makes moves that fit that vision. Yes, Tampa completely overpaid for Jeannot, but at least they get guys who align with their vision. Give me the guy who does that over the guy who trades for Mikael freaking Granlund any day of the week.I'm not gonna sit here and pretend to know how it'll all play out with any name linked to the FO job(s), but I will say I have absolutely zero desire to see Bowman, Chiarelli, or Bergevin with this team in any capacity.
-edit- I'd say of any name, I want Tulsky. I don't like the Canes or how they play, but I think that latter part is more about coaching than anything. They're a strong team despite the lack of anything approaching a star player, imo. That's a well built team. Give me the guy who had a hand in that construction, especially considering he's likely to have some top-5 picks at his disposal here sooner than later. I don't really have any interest in Darche. As others have pointed out, Tampa's era was built by Yzerman and they haven't done anything spectacular construction-wise since his departure. No thanks on the guy who was part of the FO who traded an entire draft for a plug.
Hopefully that means Sully gets fired, he doesn't care what a GM wants.
Well to be fair, Hextall did have a vision…. It was a vision of an old, small and not very dynamic hockey team that wouldn’t win a lot of games, but it was a vision nonetheless lol
Anyone who got that money to Tavares a perennial loser should not be a GM in NHL
Not only was he an old Hurricane, but he was a guy that a lot of Penguins fans always wanted lol
Friedman said today that he was told to be careful about assuming any set structure. I believe FSG also historically gives a decent amount of power to their managers in Boston and Liverpool. But I could be mistaken.
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Bruh this is still Phil Kessel territory nobody wants to hear from Simmons.SIMMONS: Kyle Dubas misplayed his hand and it cost him GM job with Maple Leafs
Kyle Dubas ostensibly fired himself as general manager of the Maple Leafs.
Dubas clearly misread his circumstance, misread Shanahan, misread Maple Leafs ownership, and overplayed his hand, somehow turning an extension offer of more than market value — five years and probably close to $4 million a season — into no offer at all when he shot for the moon with his counter-offer and in doing so, basically shot himself.
I have been present for a lot of firing press conferences over the years but nothing quite like this one before. Usually, a grim-faced owner or president says a few words, thanks the fired boss for his contributions, and then moves on to questions.
That’s the way it usually goes.
But there was nothing quite normal about the Leafs today and we wait now to see what tomorrow might bring.
And there was nothing quite normal about Shanahan going into extensive detail — minute details really — in explaining why Dubas was fired, how Dubas was fired and the doubt about him that began to seep in on Monday afternoon after the GM’s post-season availability.
That was the beginning of the end for Dubas as GM of the Leafs. In somewhat surprising form, Dubas went public with his personal doubts about staying as a GM in the NHL, talking about the toll it has taken on his life and the life of his family. The Leafs and Shanahan had some idea about whatever had been bothering Dubas and his family but clearly Shanahan — and possibly Leafs ownership — didn’t appreciate the public way in which Dubas chose to express his feelings and also began to worry about the 24/7 nature job and the toll it has taken on him.
They would have liked to have heard all that for themselves, behind closed doors. They didn’t want anyone’s laundry, personal or professional, being hung out to dry for the public to chew on. Monday’s availability rattled the cages inside Maple Leaf Sports and Entertainment and certainly got to Shanahan in various ways.
This was hard on his family,” Shanahan said of the life of a public figure, especially a figure as public as the Leafs GM. “Quite frankly, it’s hard on all of our families.”
After Dubas went public about his personal challenges, Shanahan admitted there was a “dramatic shift in my thinking. In the next few days, I didn’t get any more clarity.”
When they met on Wednesday, two days after Dubas went public and two days before the firing, “I had more questions than answers,” said Shanahan.
On Thursday, Shanahan got a call from Dubas’ agent, an agent better known for golf than hockey. There was a new financial package from the Dubas side, a mistaken counter-offer of sorts. “The conversation was brief,” said Shanahan. He knew what he was suddenly thinking. After wanting to give Dubas an extension last summer and being told no by Leafs owners, Shanahan made another offer to keep him.
With how much winning surrounds FSG you gotta think they somewhat know what they are doing and who to hire.
They may be able to identify the right character traits for General Managers, but I very much doubt in their ability to understand the actual hockey side of it. They are new to the sport, by their own admission. They are relying on the rest of their staff for that. It can't be compared to their understanding of baseball for example, a sport they grew up with.
