Post-Game Talk: ITS OVER- Did we make a huge mistake on Pierre-Luc Dubois Thread?

[MXD]

You can't see the forest because you stuck in the trees bud.

It's more a case of wanting to absolutely make sure every knows he completely lost the plot, or never had it in the first place.

 

[MXD]

The arguments against signing or acquiring Dubois are ridiculously bad.

There are very good reasons to not acquire Dubois IF his salary request starts with a 9 or otherwise contains two digits. Or eight, depending on perspective.

Absolutely no one is claiming that though.

 

[Vachon23]

Dubois may pick the Avs over the Habs. Bruins? Come on man

Boston does make a lot of sense

 

[Habs Halifax]

all im saying is, there are better options out there,

there are 30+ teams, to choose from,

assuming he wants to be part of a rebuild in montreal is just wishful thinking

29 teams. You basically counted out the Blue Jackets, Jets, and now the Habs. At least get your facts straight.

29 teams? He's going to consider the Blackhawks and other teams tanking that are in a worse spot than we are?

Habs rebuild started years ago and that was the last few years of Bergevin/Timmins. Dubois for the next 8 years lines up well with the Habs movement upward.

Sorry, I think your reasoning is not very good

Boston does make a lot of sense

For the Bruins but not Dubois. If Dubois don't pick the Habs, he's picking the Avs. I'm willing to bet you $100 bucks he don't sign with the Bruins.

Bruins will be in on Scheifele though and the Avs or Bruins are two teams I see Scheifele considering. If the Jets decide to do a mini rebuild and trade Dubois, Scheifele, Helle.

 

[Vachon23]

For the Bruins but not Dubois. If Dubois don't pick the Habs, he's picking the Avs. I'm willing to bet you $100 bucks he don't sign with the Bruins.

It make A LOT of sense for both side

PLD is gonna have the #1 C with Boston on a great team

He said that he wanted to play in a big market what Boston is and it’s only 5 hours in car from his home.

 

[MXD]

I mean I do agree that it’s a troll account but Boston is definitely an option with Krecji/Bergeron probably retiring. In fact it’s probably the option that scare me the most

And if Boston trade for him, not sure he’s gonna be UFA in 2024. I clearly see him resigning there

Bergeron and Krejci retiring opens just 6M of capspace though, with a good chunk of that going towards Bertuzzi's new deal.

Also, Boston has only 1 pick in the first two rounds of the next three drafts, and only 3 picks in the first three rounds of these drafts.

While I have no qualms with Dubois as part of a 1A/1B center scheme, I wouldn't call him a legit 1st C on his own.

 

[Habs Halifax]

Bergeron and Krejci retiring opens just 6M of capspace though, with a good chunk of that going towards Bertuzzi's new deal.

Also, Boston has only 1 pick in the first two rounds of the next three drafts, and only 3 picks in the first three rounds of these drafs.

Dubois to the Habs.

Scheifele to the Avs or Bruins. Both teams go hard at him and he has one more year on that value contract ($6.125M) where they can send a NHL contract the other way to help their cap. Avs can use Girard+ and the Bruins can use Debrusk+

 

[Vachon23]

Bergeron and Krejci retiring opens just 6M of capspace though, with a good chunk of that going towards Bertuzzi's new deal.

Also, Boston has only 1 pick in the first two rounds of the next three drafts, and only 3 picks in the first three rounds of these drafs.

They can find ways to make space if they want.

 

[Habs Halifax]

ROR to Boston.
Book it.

Good one. Very possible. I think the Leafs try to keep him but do they have the cap room? Bruins will be looking for a center but it's not going to be Dubois.

Bruins call Brisson about Dubois and he says...

They can find ways to make space if they want.

Dubois asked out of Columbus and then tells the Jets he won't sign past his RFA years and then we hear about all the context into him wanting to play for the Habs. Then he chooses the Bruins?

 

[MXD]

They can find ways to make space if they want.

They probably can.
But can they make space AND give up assets that Winnipeg would want?

If there's a trade this summer, I don't even think the Bruins can outbid something like, I dunno, Fla1st, Mesar, Struble.

Actually, what I said earlier about the Bergeron/Krejci money going to Bertuzzi? Scratch that : it's already going to Pastrnak and Zacha. So they ALREADY have to make some room for Bert.

 

[Habs Halifax]

how does it not make sense for PLD??

He would get a huge contract and be #1C on a perennial cup contending team,

that makes perfect sense for him

Because he is clearly a Habs fan growing up as a kid and he will have options like you said. If not the Habs, it's the Avs or someone else than the Bruins.

I'd shocked he signs with the Bruins after all the context that was revealed

I really do hope you are Habs fan and not one who made an account to come here to troll?

 

[Nico Cauzuki]

would make alot of sense for Boston but i dont think Dubois considers them

great team today but i think the Bruins will get worst team is getting old Bergeron and Krejci will retire and Marchand is what 33/34? and he took some beatings too through the years

Boston is going down while Montreal is going up Dubois being 24 years old his thinking more then just next year its a 7/8 year contract he will be signing in those years who do you think will be the better team? Boston will be next and maybe the year after that but year 3 to 7/8 i bet its the Habs

 

[MXD]

how does it not make sense for PLD??

He would get a huge contract and be #1C on a perennial cup contending team,

that makes perfect sense for him

You cannot, simultaneously, call Dubois a 1st C while claiming he's worth Dvorak in a trade AND have any kind of credibility.

 

[Ozmodiar]

I think the Habs are a wildcard contender with Dubois in the fold.

If they acquire PLD, and are competing for a wild card spot, I hope Hughes still sells off the expiring contracts. (Ed, Hoff)

One transition season where he prioritizes the long term over the short term, regardless of standings.

 

[Vachon23]

Dubois asked out of Columbus and then tells the Jets he won't sign past his RFA years and then we hear about all the context into him wanting to play for the Habs. Then he chooses the Bruins?

What we know is that he want to play in a big market and MTL is probably on top of his list. Dosen’t mean he considered only MTL. Boston is a great organization with many good players in a great city

They probably can.
But can they make space AND give up assets that Winnipeg would want?

If there's a trade this summer, I don't even think the Bruins can outbid something like, I dunno, Fla1st, Mesar, Struble.

Actually, what I said earlier about the Bergeron/Krejci money going to Bertuzzi? Scratch that : it's already going to Pastrnak and Zacha. So they ALREADY have to make some room for Bert.

if we decide to pay the price, then yes I agree that Boston can’t compete. My point is more that if we decide to wait that he’s UFA and he‘s traded to Boston, I’m pretty sure he’s gonna resign there

great team today but i think the Bruins will get worst team

They still have 2 #1 Dmen with a top 5 winger in the league, a great goalie and great supporting cast

 

[Habs Halifax]

What we know is that he want to play in a big market and MTL is probably on top of his list. Dosen’t mean he considered only MTL. Boston is a great organization with many good players in a great city

if we decide to pay the price, then yes I agree that Boston can’t compete. My point is more that if we decide to wait that he’s UFA and he‘s traded to Boston, I’m pretty sure he’s gonna resign there

What we do Know:
* He asked out of Columbus and said he wants to play in a big market
* He looked very uninspired after the trade to the Jets. Played well against the Oilers in the 1st round but was invisible against the Habs in the 2nd round.
* A member of the Jets media reports that Dubois is telling members of the organization he wants to play for the Habs.
* He eventually told the Jets shortly after he will not sign past his UFA years.
* His agent says "I can confirm Dubois wants to play for the Habs because he is a RFA and I'm allowed to say it".
* He signs a one year RFA deal and then has a press conference to calm down the noise. Basically says the right things cause the Jets media and fans were listening closely. Says he's focused on this season and helping the Jets make the playoffs as his main message.
* Freeman, Kypreos, and others report during this season that Dubois will be with the Habs either through trade or as a UFA.

After all this, you think he chooses the Bruins?

 

[Ozmodiar]

if we decide to pay the price, then yes I agree that Boston can’t compete. My point is more that if we decide to wait that he’s UFA and he‘s traded to Boston, I’m pretty sure he’s gonna resign there

This is why Hughes is trying to trade for him this year.

Winnipeg still has the TDL option and the acquiring team would have 4 months to sell their city and team blueprint.

 

[habsfan891]

Good one. Very possible. I think the Leafs try to keep him but do they have the cap room? Bruins will be looking for a center but it's not going to be Dubois.

Bruins call Brisson about Dubois and he says...

Dubois asked out of Columbus and then tells the Jets he won't sign past his RFA years and then we hear about all the context into him wanting to play for the Habs. Then he chooses the Bruins?

Ah yes Lindsay when she was still a beautiful girl even though that movie was terrible

 

[Vachon23]

His agent says "I can confirm Dubois wants to play for the Habs because he is a RFA and I'm allowed to say it".

His agent said: MTL is ONE of the teams that Dubois would like to play

"Je peux en parler, car en ce moment, il n’a pas signé de contrat, il est joueur autonome avec compensation. Montréal est une ville où il aimerait jouer "

Pierre-Luc Dubois voudrait jouer à Montréal, indique son agent - TVA Sports

Le nom de l’attaquant originaire des Sainte-Agathe-des-Monts a récemment été lié aux Canadiens de Montréal, mais qu’en est-il exactement?

www.tvasports.ca

After all this, you think he chooses the Bruins?

if they trade for him ? Yes I do think he‘s resigning there. If he’s UFA ? No I think he choose the Habs

 

[Habs Halifax]

This is why Hughes is trying to trade for him this year.

Winnipeg still has the TDL option and the acquiring team would have 4 months to sell their city and team blueprint.

I doubt GM's will take the same chance the Jets took in trying to sell their team/city in an attempt at convincing him to stay. I do think other GM's will be in on Dubois but they will want the sign/trade. I don't see other teams paying valuable futures knowing they don't have a good chance at extending him. Not at this stage.

As a pending UFA for the 24 TDL, I don't even see him getting the Horvat trade value. Anybody who wanted to trade for Horvat, wanted to extend him. Lou didn't make the move if he didn't feel he had a good chance at extending him.

 

[Blame the referee]

Dvorak + Mesar + 2nd round pick 2023

 

[Habs Halifax]

His agent said: MTL is ONE of the teams that Dubois would like to play

"Je peux en parler, car en ce moment, il n’a pas signé de contrat, il est joueur autonome avec compensation. Montréal est une ville où il aimerait jouer "

Pierre-Luc Dubois voudrait jouer à Montréal, indique son agent - TVA Sports

Le nom de l’attaquant originaire des Sainte-Agathe-des-Monts a récemment été lié aux Canadiens de Montréal, mais qu’en est-il exactement?

www.tvasports.ca

if they trade for him ? Yes I do think he‘s resigning there. If he’s UFA ? No I think he choose the Habs

Of course it's not just the Habs. That's bad business but we are on his list no doubt.

What about where this all started last summer when a member of the Jets media said... "Dubois is telling members of the Jets organization, he wants to play for the Habs".

The context is too deep bud. If it's not the Habs, I think it's the Avs. Bruins? I don't think he considers them cause he will have other options if it's not the Habs.

 

[The Great Weal]

Hook that shit to my veins. Sick of players of this quality using the Habs as leverage in free agency. For one to actually come here would be massive.

Yet you got a good bit of people who don’t want him because he doesn’t love Ohio and buttf*** Manitoba

 

[Vachon23]

Bruins? I don't think he considers them cause he will have other options if it's not the Habs.

They are a great fit for him.. No reason he won’t consider them strongly

 

[Nico Cauzuki]

They still have 2 #1 Dmen with a top 5 winger in the league, a great goalie and great supporting cast

yea your right they just need to add centers which Dubois would help but i think losing Bergeron will hurt alot hes probably the best defensive center in the game plus the leadership in the room but werent you the one with the Dubois scoops earlier this season from a friend so i guess you would know more then me