Post-Game Talk: ITS OVER- Did we make a huge mistake on Pierre-Luc Dubois Thread?

[Scriptor]

If his dream is to win a cup while wearing the Habs jersey then he will reach autonomy and sign here as a UFA.

It would maximize the chances of it actually happening.

It is the ideal situation in terms of keeping assets. I honestly think our younger players would benefit more from having Dubois the team right away, but, having your cake and eating to as ell seems to be both your prerogatives.

No sense in trying t make sense because you won't budge from your positions, or hear any other advantages for doing as much, nor consider human factors.

 

[Belial]

It is the ideal situation in terms of keeping assets. I honestly think our younger players would benefit more from having Dubois the team right away, but, having your cake and eating to as ell seems to be both your prerogatives.

No sense in trying t make sense because you won't budge from your positions, or hear any other advantages for doing as much, nor consider human factors.

I get all the points and I will take him right away if it takes Dvorak and some B prospect but it will take a lot more than that to get him right away so that's why I'm hoping for him just signing here as a UFA.

 

[Kojo]

I get all the points and I will take him right away if it takes Dvorak and some B prospect but it will take a lot more than that to get him right away so that's why I'm hoping for him just signing here as a UFA.

He wants to trade Barron away? What is this even.

 

[SB164]

They’re not going to get Mailloux
(In my opinion)not after Molson and the organization have stuck with him so far, and how much he’s done in such a short period of time as a player/and off ice. Makes no sense to cut bait after he just finished leading the OHL in goals for defensemen.

They’ve invested far too much into him and he’s responded very well to all the pressure and backlash, while keeping his nose clean.

Winnipeg is more than welcome to draft Reinbacher with the Florida first if he’s still available, but I seriously doubt that Mailloux is even considered for a second as part of a PLD deal.

The Habs didn’t really publicize it but Logan Mailloux also apparently stayed with Nick Suzuki most of last summer so the Habs really have been going above & beyond to help Mailloux off the ice.

 

[Belial]

The Habs didn’t really publicize it but Logan Mailloux also apparently stayed with Nick Suzuki most of last summer so the Habs really have been going above & beyond to help Mailloux off the ice.

They're not trading Mailloux no matter what... He's this gold mine of positive PR.

 

[Dach Vader]

delete

 

[Beaker]

Harvey-Pinard, Dvorak, their choice of Beck/Roy/Mesar/Kidney

 

[morhilane]

The Habs didn’t really publicize it but Logan Mailloux also apparently stayed with Nick Suzuki most of last summer so the Habs really have been going above & beyond to help Mailloux off the ice.

He lived with a billet family not Suzuki, but he trained with Suzuki and the others, at least what his rehab allowed him to do.

There will be more players and prospects training in Montréal this summer.

 

[Essenege]

Getting PLD potentially makes us a playoff team (Suzuki, PLD, Dach is an amazing 1-2-3).

Personally, I’ve had enough of this rebuild already. Rebuilds are boring. Two top 5 picks in a row (+ another top 15) should be enough. Now get PLD, play the most deserving players, and learn to win.

 

[Jaynki]

Realistically, the trade for Dubois is the FLA picks (assuming it stays at his spot.)

In normal circumstances, it would be an underpayment.

In those actual circumstances, its a fair deal for everyone. Winnipeg is cornered and they will recoup one pretty good pieces.

I am sure PLD would be very happy to play here asap and not have to wait another year. It would go a long way for him if Habs made the move. Assuming the interest is bi-directional, it would be a very good business move and totally worth the pick.

And quite honestly, its a very nice pick, but we would have a very nice player for it and imo, the perfect complement for Suzuki and Caufield.

Its a very fair price to pay and such an obvious trade.

 

[WeThreeKings]

The goal is going to be striking a fair enough deal that Winnipeg can save face a bit but we get Dubois a year early to integrate him and sign him to the max term.

The Florida pick, if it is out of the play-offs, is actually too rich compared to other deals. That is why I think they just move the Calgary 1st, or acquire another 1st through other methods (Anderson, Edmundson, Dvorak, etc.) and use that later first in the package for Dubois.

But our big names in the prospect pool aren't going.

Montreal has the leverage, they can afford to wait and so the Jets will have to choose whether they take a solid package or go through another year with Dubois and take the Taylor Hall package at the deadline.

 

[CaptainKirk]

The Florida pick, if it is out of the play-offs, is actually too rich compared to other deals. That is why I think they just move the Calgary 1st, or acquire another 1st through other methods (Anderson, Edmundson, Dvorak, etc.) and use that later first in the package for Dubois.

I assume that was the original plan. They wanted a third 1st rounder from either a Monahan or Eddy deal to use as currency, but that didn't work out. I too think they don't touch that Florida 1st.

 

[Jaynki]

The goal is going to be striking a fair enough deal that Winnipeg can save face a bit but we get Dubois a year early to integrate him and sign him to the max term.

The Florida pick, if it is out of the play-offs, is actually too rich compared to other deals. That is why I think they just move the Calgary 1st, or acquire another 1st through other methods (Anderson, Edmundson, Dvorak, etc.) and use that later first in the package for Dubois.

But our big names in the prospect pool aren't going.

Montreal has the leverage, they can afford to wait and so the Jets will have to choose whether they take a solid package or go through another year with Dubois and take the Taylor Hall package at the deadline.

I think the CGY pick might end up richer than FLA pick. (In 2025) with the way they are trending and the horrible contract they have.

I think Montreal makes the deal tho. Dubois wants to be here and they wont let him rot in WPG another year. Also, props to Dubois to have the balls to come here.

He will be a very nice complement to Suzuki and Caufield imo. He have the perfect skill set to complement them and we will be able to maximime them in the dot by alternating them since they are a leftie and a rightie.

 

[WeThreeKings]

I think the CGY pick might end up richer than FLA pick. (In 2025) with the way they are trending and the horrible contract they have.

I think Montreal makes the deal tho. Dubois wants to be here and they wont let him rot in WPG another year. Also, props to Dubois to have the balls to come here.

He will be a very nice complement to Suzuki and Caufield imo. He have the perfect skill set to complement them and we will be able to maximime them in the dot by alternating them since they are a leftie and a rightie.

It could be, but it is also a few years out.. so I don't think Hughes' is going to worry when he can use it as currency to get a really good player now, and then you invest the top 15 2023 1st in your prospect pool, they'll be ready 2 years earlier than anyone picked in 2025.

 

[ReginaHabs]

Part of the value of trading for PLD instead of waiting until he is a UFA is the additional year he’ll have to bond with the core of the team and the coaching staff. Maybe that’s not worth what we’d have to give up, but it’s not nothing and it is something people seem to ignore when they argue we should just wait until he’s a UFA.

 

[SwiftyHab]

Either Fla or Calgary pick and Dvorak. Thats all you get Winnipeg. Take it or leave it.

 

[Captain Mountain]

Who is:
- U25
- 70 pts and + player
- 6’3 and play a physical game

and is available ?

Dubois career high is 60 points, how is he a "70 point and + player"?

 

[waitin425]

We just need to add PLD. Bottom line.

Dvo + Struble + Florida 1st

 

[Vachon23]

Dubois career high is 60 points, how is he a "70 point and + player"?

He was a PPG player this season before he got injured and had 60 pts season as a U23, he can certainly be a 70 pts players with offence getting up

 

[Habs 4 Life]

Dubois career high is 60 points, how is he a "70 point and + player"?

It's actually 61 but it doesn't really matter. He is about to probably beat that by a few points this season. Would be his 3rd 60+ point season in 6 NHL seasons. We can't act like we don't need offensive players player like him.

 

[salbutera]

Part of the value of trading for PLD instead of waiting until he is a UFA is the additional year he’ll have to bond with the core of the team and the coaching staff. Maybe that’s not worth what we’d have to give up, but it’s not nothing and it is something people seem to ignore when they argue we should just wait until he’s a UFA.

Also need to consider: open market bidding war will inevitably have some team offering $9M+ likely from a low tax locale which Habs would need to surpass. Whereas acquisition cost for a trade w Jets will be below market value for PLD + lower cap hit on a longterm deal relative to UFA signing

 

[waitin425]

He ain't worth that,

Dvo straight up is the most I would do,

You are getting obsessed by his background

take off the french goggles your looking through

I'm from Ontario, don't speak a lick of French.

Welcome by the way. 6 posts and counting.

 

[Habs Halifax]

All this talk is just a repeat of the Tavares talk back in 2018

I knew that was never going to happen, and same with this,

Tavares was more of a dream and it was actually talked about a lot (remember the Weber connection). However, Dubois is actually saying he wants to play for the Habs and there stands a much better chance he will vs Tavares.

Remember Duchene?

Dubois coming to the Habs and sliding into this core fits. It's good timing for both Dubois and the Habs. He doesn't come to Montreal on a island by himself where he takes all the pressure to lead us as the best player.

Sorry, but you can try to brush this under the rug all you want but the level of focus is valid. It's not 100% he don't come but it's not close to 0% either.

 

[McGuires Corndog]

The arguments against signing or acquiring Dubois are ridiculously bad.

 

[Habs Halifax]

The arguments against signing or acquiring Dubois are ridiculously bad.

Agreed. This should be a conversation about if we trade for him or wait till UFA. Some fans saying no to both are off the rails. They seriously should question their hockey knowledge.

I'm pretty sure it's the same gang who tried to say Danault was just some average 3C and should not be paid any more than $3.5M or $4M.