Post-Game Talk: ITS OVER- Did we make a huge mistake on Pierre-Luc Dubois Thread?
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I would be fine with that offer, I'd even through in a guy like Harris in there as I don't think he has a future here.
Habs Halifax
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I'd have Harris in there before Beck for the same reason you just said. Not sure where he fits in the future. However, not sure what targets the Jets have. I think they take Beck/Panthers 1st and also Dvorak who fills a center spot. The other angle to this is if they are shopping Scheifele and Helle as well. Could target different pieces and what they target for Dubois might depend on what's offered for the other two.
If any other team offers much better than Dvorak, Beck, Panthers 1st, I'm out. Let him go
Not every player breaks down as soon as he hits 30 years old...
LA is in Cup mode, they'll probably sacrifice Byfield lol, we have no chance...
Habs Halifax
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Depends on Dubois. If it's a dead heat between the Habs and Kings, he may force the Kings to give him $9.5M or he takes Montreal's offer. Who knows how much he likes the other 4 or 5 teams on his list. I personally think he wants to come home and will... as long as we are willing to pay him in the $8M - $9M range.
NO, but very few give you the production to justify them earning the salary they are getting at 26-28 years old till they are in their 30's You enjoying watching the players who were signed by Bergevin who also thinks like you, Armia, Gallagher, Price, Hoffman? None of those should have been getting that much money if the contract ran past age 30. After age 26, a player should have to trade contract length for money not be paid based solely on what they were at age 26 with expectations it will continue into their 30's.
That's too simplistic of a view.
I was actually one of those that didn't want to have Price at 10M$...
That contract was just inevitable the way Carey was performing though...
Habs Halifax
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Difference in tax between Montreal and LA. If it comes down to these two teams, I don't see tax being a difference maker.
Sterling Archer
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I know Bergevin isn't the GM in LA, but how ironic would it be if he was able to get Danault and PLD as centers there when he could never accomplish that in Montreal, much less with TWO Quebec born centers! lol. Peak irony.
Vachon23
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At the same time PLD is better defensively and he’s more physical. Different type of player but they are at the same level
Habs Halifax
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Bet you he was offering Kotkaniemi when Dubois asked out of Columbus. He's probably OK with offering Byfield if they can get Dubois locked up.
But yeah, he is just an advisor. Doubt he has major influence on this. Kings interest is probably about Kopitar close to UFA.
They're more desperate to win right away as Kopitar and Doughty are not getting any younger...
If Dubois agrees to sign there it's clearly they will outbid us in a trade!
Habs Halifax
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Agreed. Anybody saying Suzuki is better than Dubois are reaching. They are on the same level of value but play different types of games.
Gaylord Q Tinkledink
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LA only got Danault because of Bergevin.
If Bergevin was GM he'd deal Clarke for PLD because they have Doughty.
I wonder if the 8 year extension is just posturing by Brisson to prevent him being dealt as a rental, and if it comes down to it, he will settle for a shorter contract for whichever destination he desires to go to.
Habs Halifax
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If they are not willing to trade Byfield, who are they willing to trade? I bet you they are dangling Turcotte and not sure what else.
Doubt they are trading Clarke. They might dangle the other J Hughes. Who's got more value. Beck or J Hughes?
I wonder about the Kings trade if both Byfield and Turcotte are not available. They don't have their 1st and I bet you the Jets value a 1st in this draft (Panthers late 1st) vs a future one.
Vachon23
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What's the logic though? He just had to accept his QO and become UFA at the end of the year...
Habs Halifax
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He's a RFA starting July 1st. The tricky part to a trade prior to July 1st is teams can't talk to him unless the Jets allow it.
So are the Jets open to allowing all 5 or 6 teams to talk to Brisson now? Any news on that? It's one thing to say he is open to a 8 year extension but teams still want to know for sure. Especially with Dubois who asked out of Columbus and Winnipeg and has that Montreal connection in terms of him wanting to return home "someday".
Forgot about Vilardi. That seems reasonable they might dangle him. Had a good age 23 season last year but do the Jets see room to grow heading into his age 24 season?
LA is clearly going for it so I'm sure Byfield is on the table.
We just can't beat that in a trade.
They're asking for Dach for sure but I'm not willing to do that.
Habs Halifax
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I'm not sold they are including Byfield. Vilardi is the one I see them dangling. If they trade Byfield, They will want permission to get the 8 year deal in place before the trade (not after). If the Jets don't allow teams to talk to Brisson, then what? Not much talk about this part.
Agree on Dach. We are not moving him.
I do see the Kings offering Byfield if they got both Dubois and Helle though.
Don't see why the Jets wouldn't let teams talk to Brisson to get a extension and better trade return?
Vachon23
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Byfield+ a late first and some B prospect for 8 years of Dubois? Are you kidding me? Where do I sign? LA is trying to win now so they will have to go all in...
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