Isles Prospect Talk 2020-21 Pt. III

[Chapin Landvogt]

I understand Aatu Raty’s season is coming to an end this month. Should he then be assigned to Bridgeport or wait until next season?

I'm thinking much of that has to do with whether Team Finland wants him to be part of the team at the WC.

After winning gold at the OL games, it looks like Finland wants to give its regulars a break and bring in some fresh blood for the WC. Raty could be part of that in light of the season he's having.

 

[JJTT]

I understand Aatu Raty’s season is coming to an end this month. Should he then be assigned to Bridgeport or wait until next season?

Regular season, playoffs end in early May..

 

[seafoam]

Josh Bailey would have passed this

 

[seafoam]

Cameron Berg with a goal here + some more stuff.

 

[SI90]

Just a flick of the wrist

 

[doublechili]

Just a flick of the wrist

I liked that one. That was an NHL goal.

 

[SI90]

Kid is a machine. Nice weekend for him.

great back check to turn the puck over and then a sweet backhand deke for the Hatty.

 

[SI90]

 

[SI90]

DuFour stat line as of today
Scoring almost a goal per game

GP-42

G-40

A-36

pts-76

PIM28

+40

[THEAD] [/THEAD]

 

[PK Cronin]

DuFour stat line as of today
Scoring almost a goal per game

GP-42

G-40

A-36

pts-76

PIM28

+40

[THEAD] [/THEAD]

By the time he gets to Long Island he'll be getting 5 goals and 3 assists in 82 games.

 

[SI90]

By the time he gets to Long Island he'll be getting 5 goals and 3 assists in 82 games.

Law of averages says that’s a lot more likely unfortunately.

 

[Benedict Kovalchuk]

By the time he gets to Long Island he'll be getting 5 goals and 3 assists in 82 games.

That's Bridgeport stats lol

 

[leeroggy]

By the time he gets to Long Island he'll be getting 5 goals and 3 assists in 82 games.

Dufour is going to have a lot of our posters owing him a mea culpa

 

[doublechili]

Dufour is going to have a lot of our posters owing him a mea culpa

I don't know of anyone who's saying he's not going to make it. IMO it's more tempering expectations because of the drastic difference in level of competition. He's not going to be seeing those 30 foot uncontested wrist shots in the NHL. Having said that, he certainly has size and a great release and a seeming knack for being in scoring position. And that goal I commented on above was definitely an NHL goal. Obviously I'm rooting for the guy - just taking a developmental step at a time before I pencil him into the top 6.

 

[ekill08x]

If Dufour was a first round pick a lot of people would be singing different tunes. Hope we found a late round gem and its very possible we have.

 

[doublechili]

If Dufour was a first round pick a lot of people would be singing different tunes.

Is "Hopeful and Cautiously Optimistic" not a good tune?

I sang similar tunes re: Anders Lee when he was tearing it up at ND his second year after being drafted, and re: MDC when he was almost a goal per game at Kingston his second year after being drafted. We can hope. We can have a good feeling. But we don't know.

 

[xECK29x]

+ = on IR or just hurt

PLAYER	POS	ACQUIRED	HFB RANK	TEAM	GP	G	A	PTS	PIM	+/-
Noah Dobson	D	2018 round 1 #12	1	New York Islanders	50	10	18	28	10	2
Oliver Wahlstrom	RW/LW	2018 round 1 #11	2	New York Islanders	47	11	10	21	39	0
Samuel Bolduc	D	2019 round 2 #57	3	Bridgeport Islanders	42	1	2	3	10	-5
Aatu Raty	C	2021 round 2 #52	4	Oulun Karpat	6	0	1	1	2	1
				* Jukurit	35	12	20	32	26	24
				Finland U20 (all)	11	7	13	20	4	1
Robin Salo	D	2017 round 2 #46	5	* Bridgeport Islanders	25	2	10	12	2	-6
				New York Islanders	18	1	3	4	4	-4
Bode Wilde	D	2018 round 2 #41	6	Vasterviks IK	37	1	8	9	6	-2
Simon Holmstrom	RW/LW	2019 round 1 #23	7	Bridgeport Islanders	50	7	17	24	6	-8
Kieffer Bellows	LW	2016 round 1 #19	8	New York Islanders	29	4	9	13	11	3
William Dufour	RW	2020 round 5 #152	9	Saint John Sea Dogs	42	40	36	76	28	40
Ruslan Iskhakov	C/RW	2018 round 2 #43	10	Adler Mannheim	12	2	10	12	0	9
Sebastian Aho	D	2017 round 5 #139	11	New York Islanders	22	0	8	8	4	-6
Alex Jefferies	LW	2019 round 4 #121	13	Merrimack College	31	9	12	21	10	-4
Reece Newkirk	C	2019 round 5 #147	13	Bridgeport Islanders	12	0	1	1	10	-3
				* Worcester Railers	23	7	13	20	12	4
Otto Koivula	C/LW	2016 round 4 #120	14	Bridgeport Islanders	43	10	26	36	28	-3
				* New York Islanders	4	0	1	1	0	0
Grant Hutton	D	FA	15	* Bridgeport Islanders	39	6	9	15	8	-6
				New York Islanders	5	0	0	0	0	0
Alexander Ljungkrantz	LW	2020 round 3 #90	19	Brynas IF	5	0	0	0	0	-2
				Brynas IF J20	16	2	7	9	2	-4
				* HC Vita Hasten	30	5	5	10	2	-9
				Sweden U20 (all)	8	1	1	2	0	-2
Matias Rajaniemi	D	2020 round 6 #183	20	* Lehden Pelicans	53	1	5	6	22	4
				Finland U20 (all)	8	0	2	2	2	0
Collin Adams	LW/C	2016 round 6 #170	HM1	Worcester Railers	10	3	4	7	2	-4
				* Bridgeport Islanders	31	4	5	9	4	-4
Cameron Berg	C	2021 round 4 #125	HM2	Univ. of Nebraska Omaha	35	8	14	22	14	5
Blade Jenkins	LW/C	2018 round 5 #134	HM3	Bridgeport Islanders	41	7	5	12	9	-1
Arnaud Durandeau	LW	2017 round 6 #165	HM4	Bridgeport Islanders	52	11	18	29	28	0
Aleksi Malinen	D	2021 round 6 #189	HM5	JYP	6	0	0	0	0	-6
				* JYP U20	29	2	12	14	20	0
				KeuPa HT	2	0	0	0	0	2
				Finland U20 (all)	5	1	0	1	2	0
Eetu Liukas	LW	2021 round 5 #157		* TPS	41	7	2	9	24	-3
				TPS U20	13	10	10	20	14	5
				Finland U20 (all)	10	1	0	1	14	-1
(?) Ben Mirageas	D	2017 round 3 #77		Providence College	16	3	1	4	21	1
Christian Krygier	D	2018 round 7 #196		Michigan State Univ.	36	2	6	8	79	-12
Jacob Pivonka	C	2018 round 4 #103		Univ. of Notre Dame	22	1	7	8	2	2
Tomas Machu	D	2021 round 7 #221		HC Vitkovice	10	0	0	0	2	-5
				HC Vitkovice U20	13	4	6	10	10	2
				Draci Sumperk	5	0	5	5	2	1
				Dukla Jihlava	1	0	0	0	0	1
				* Youngstown Phantoms	19	0	4	4	4	1
				Czechia U20	2	0	1	1	0	0
Logan Cockerill	LW	2017 round 7 #201		Boston Univ.	29	5	6	11	8	-4
GOALIES					GP	GAA	SV%	SO	W-L-T
Tristan Lennox	G	2021 round 3 #93	17	Saginaw Spirit	28	3.20	.888	0	7-20-0
Jakub Skarek	G	2018 round 3 #72	17	Bridgeport Islanders	30	2.95	.906	1	13-11-5
Henrik Tikkanen	G	2020 round 7 #214		Kalpa	2	4.95	.765	0	0-2-0
				* MoDo Hockey	18	2.60	.901	1	12-4-0
				Vaxjo Lakers HC	1	1.00	.952	0	1-0-0

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

 

[DerekKingSnipes]

Is "Hopeful and Cautiously Optimistic" not a good tune?

I sang similar tunes re: Anders Lee when he was tearing it up at ND his second year after being drafted, and re: MDC when he was almost a goal per game at Kingston his second year after being drafted. We can hope. We can have a good feeling. But we don't know.

Yeah it’s hope and for the spot he was picked he certainly at least looks like a better prospect than you’d expect from that spot for sure. Bridgeport will be good challenge for him next year for sure but at least he appears to be ready for it.

 

[leeroggy]

If Dufour was a first round pick a lot of people would be singing different tunes. Hope we found a late round gem and its very possible we have.

Amen! What a difference perception makes. We could have lucked into our own Jamie Benn (both are 5th round picks, have size and great hands and similar junior scoring patterns) and we're all trying to find what's wrong instead of feeling good about a potential grand slam draft steal.

At times we sound like a battered spouse on this board.

 

[doublechili]

we're all trying to find what's wrong instead of feeling good about a potential grand slam draft steal.

At times we sound like a battered spouse on this board.

Did I miss a bunch of negative Dufour posts?

 

[leeroggy]

Did I miss a bunch of negative Dufour posts?

Yes, go back about 6 weeks

Over-ager . . . which he isn't

Can't skate well . . . which isn't true

Dominates because of his size . . .

Everything but 'you know what, we might have finally hit a home run here'

Here was his final draft write up (from thehockeywriters.com):
William Dufour (Ranked 69th NA)

You get noticed if you can score. You get noticed if your two-way game is strong. You especially get noticed if you can score and play a strong, two-way game. That’s what Dufour brings to the table. One moment, he’s in your face playing a physical game. The next he’s posting a 14-game point streak against you. He has the size at 6-foot-2 and approaching 200 pounds. After a trade to Drummondville, he finished the season at nearly a point per game. He will make someone very happy in the middle rounds.

He was drafted a lot lower than that . . . GOOD FOR US!

 

[seafoam]

The Q has the stigma of being the weakest of the three Canadian junior leagues, but with mid-late round pickd like Dufour, it just makes sense to focus on the positives.

If he wasn't putting these kinds of numbers, wouldn't we be asking ourselves why the hell was this guy picked? Keyboard warriors love to play 'damned if you do, damned if you don't'. The guy is having success, it may or may not translate.

 

[The Real JT]

Dufour is going to have a lot of our posters owing him a mea culpa

I’m more concerned he has a picture buried somewhere of his 8 year old self in Habs’ pajamas.

 

[leeroggy]

Are Habs' pajamas bilingual?

Eh and Hein?

(I cheated and used Google translator)

 

[Chapin Landvogt]

The Q has the stigma of being the weakest of the three Canadian junior leagues, but with mid-late round pickd like Dufour, it just makes sense to focus on the positives.

If he wasn't putting these kinds of numbers, wouldn't we be asking ourselves why the hell was this guy picked? Keyboard warriors love to play 'damned if you do, damned if you don't'. The guy is having success, it may or may not translate.

Granted, that draft was one of the weirdest of all time due to how it was impacted by the Corona stoppage and then took place in the fall, when some kids were already well into their D+1 seasons in Europe while others hadn't touched the ice since February or so.

We are likely going to continue to see a ton of hits and misses out of that draft across the league - and definitely so among Islander picks.

I STILL can't believe this team took Ljungkrantz with Chromiak, Farrell, Tullio, and Berard still on the board.